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Frankfooter

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I see lots of posts where you're defending Hamas' choice. Where are the posts where you criticize their butchering civilians? Oh that's right, you've repeatedly posted that Jews in Israel is fair game because in your words "you can't tell them apart".
The last one was on the previous page right here.

Where are your posts calling out Israel for targeting civilians, hospitals, schools, medics or children?
Oh right, there are zero.

You have defended every single killing of Palestinians here for years.
Regardless of the situation.

Just as I'm sure you'd defend this.

 

Grist

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I have close business associates who have family in Gaza. I discuss this horror with them, please leave me out of this Terb thread.
 

xmontrealer

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So you are saying you don't think Israel can survive as a democracy and needs to forever stay apartheid?
Unfortunately Israel cannot survive as a Jewish theocracy if it would become a true democracy that would include all Palestinians.

How many times do I have to say that a 2 state solution that would assure the peaceful co-existence of both the Palestinians and the Jews in their respective nations, with all Arab nations acknowledging Israel's right to exist, is the only possible solution to this never-ending tragedy? In my opinion if it would mean Israel giving a reasonable amount of land back to the Palestinians to give them a proper new homeland, with natural resources and livable borders, etc., so be it.
 

mandrill

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Who is Ed Krassenstein anyway?? Who knows if he is telling the truth?? For all we know, Iran has already received the full $6 Billion ??
We know that Iran didn't. Because everybody who knows anything about it says that they didn't get it.
 

Frankfooter

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Unfortunately Israel cannot survive as a Jewish theocracy if it would become a true democracy that would include all Palestinians.

How many times do I have to say that a 2 state solution that would assure the peaceful co-existence of both the Palestinians and the Jews in their respective nations, with all Arab nations acknowledging Israel's right to exist, is the only possible solution to this never-ending tragedy? In my opinion if it would mean Israel giving a reasonable amount of land back to the Palestinians to give them a proper new homeland, with natural resources and livable borders, etc., so be it.
Thank you for a reasonable post, xmontrealer.

I agree that a two state solution would have been ideal. Unfortunately I don't think that's possible any more, there are too many settlements and too many hard core types, like Netanyahu, who say they will not give back a single metre.

If there were more people like you running Israel there could have been a two state solution.
 

Butler1000

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I think its clear the Hamas terrorist leadership has failed and gone too far this time. So Israel is no longer going to keep the kid gloves on.

Hopeefully they take the Sri Lankin approach. Sweep the area. Place bounties on the top few thousand Hamas leaders and announce no relief until they are found, dead or alive. Vet refugees for transfer to the West Bank. For as long as it takes.

Then take that beautiful beachfront and turn it into the tourist enclave it deserves to be.
 
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mandrill

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Egypt won’t play along with Israel’s scheme.

Egypt doesn't want the heavily indoctrinated Gazans and HAMAS inside Egypt where they will commit violence and fuck things up. Egypt wants to keep them isolated in Gaza and then claim it's all Israel's fault.

Does Israel want to expel the Gazans?.... Probably not before last weekend. Betcha lots of Israelis are now saying that HAMAS is no better than ISIS and it recruits heavily from radicalized Gazans and therefore a end solution might involve expelling the Gazans. Problem is that there are 2.5 M of them. That's a fuckload of people.

60% of Gazans voted for HAMAS 17 years ago and HAMAS has run Gaza as a single party ideological dictatorship since then, controlling everything Gazans read or hear or believe. How many Gazans would vote for HAMAS now?..... 60%? 80%? 90%.

Of those Gazans who don't accept HAMAS, how many hate Israel and Jews just the same anyhow?..... They'd just do things a little differently than HAMAS?....

If I was an Israeli leader, I'd be doing some very hard-ass mathematics calculations right now.
 

shack

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A dolt? You amuse me. Time to go, this is a waste of time.
To be honest, their voices need to be muffled and their talking points shown to be nothing more than hate speech. Saying nothing gives them a forum.
 

Grist

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To be honest, their voices need to be muffled and their talking points shown to be nothing more than hate speech. Saying nothing gives them a forum.
I think they made that pretty clear, but they merely bloviate in an escort review forum, because nobody in their personal lives listens to them, or take them seriously.
 
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Jubee

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I don't give a shit about any wars, I already don't think too highly of us period, let alone the religious and political stuff, but here's a link to a story I came across on another forum.
 
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