Israel at war
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Over one million Arabs/Muslims live and/or work in Israel. The issue here is conflating peaceful citizens with reprobate nutbars, who, like ISIS, will hopefully be extinguished soon.
Wrong again, buddy.
I keep saying that we need an immediate ceasefire followed by an international campaign to end apartheid.
You have already wiped Palestine off the map.
So the best we can do is give Palestinians equal rights in the one state solution that exists right now.
The Israelis left Gaza in 2005. I am done with this. You might want to do some reading.Israel is occupying Gaza according to the UN and Amnesty.
Israel's Occupation: 50 Years of Dispossession
Mass human rights violations during the 50-year occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip have devastated the lives of millions of Palestinians.www.amnesty.org
Israel's government are also terrorists, they are as we speak bombing civilians and targeting civilians, that is the definition of terrorism.
They have cut off all power, food and water to the civilian base, 50% of whom are children.
Terrorists, just like Hamas but with nukes, drones and missiles.
You just said that Palestinians have to fight for basic rights.
Now you say its immoral to do so?
By the way, I keep trying to remind you that I support the Palestinian BDS movement.
A moral route towards peace through ending apartheid.
I did, you should do some reading.
Like the Amnesty report that quotes human rights and international law.
Israel's Occupation: 50 Years of Dispossession
Mass human rights violations during the 50-year occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip have devastated the lives of millions of Palestinians.
www.amnesty.org
“Amnesty International, the World Health Organization, Oxfam, the International Committee of the Red Cross, the United Nations, the United Nations General Assembly, the UN Fact Finding Mission to Gaza, international human rights organizations, US government websites, the UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office, and a significant number of legal commentators (Geoffrey Aronson, Meron Benvenisti, Claude Bruderlein, Sari Bashi, Kenneth Mann, Shane Darcy, John Reynolds, Yoram Dinstein, John Dugard, Marc S. Kaliser, Mustafa Mari, and Iain Scobbie) maintain that Israel's extensive direct external control over Gaza, and indirect control over the lives of its internal population mean that Gaza remained occupied”
Another brainwashed dolt.
Gaza Strip - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Explained: Israel's 2005 Gaza Disengagement Plan And "Full Siege" Order
In 2005, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon ordered a full disengagement from Gaza, marking an end to settlements that started after taking control of the region following the six-day war in 1967.
www.ndtv.com
“Amnesty International, the World Health Organization, Oxfam, the International Committee of the Red Cross, the United Nations, the United Nations General Assembly, the UN Fact Finding Mission to Gaza, international human rights organizations, US government websites, the UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office, and a significant number of legal commentators (Geoffrey Aronson, Meron Benvenisti, Claude Bruderlein, Sari Bashi, Kenneth Mann, Shane Darcy, John Reynolds, Yoram Dinstein, John Dugard, Marc S. Kaliser, Mustafa Mari, and Iain Scobbie) maintain that Israel's extensive direct external control over Gaza, and indirect control over the lives of its internal population mean that Gaza remained occupied”
Another brainwashed dolt.
[/QUOTEGaza Strip - Wikipedia
A dolt? You amuse me. Time to go, this is a waste of time.
No, Hamas is not justified in attacking civilians.
They are justified in attacking the army and any miltants.
Do you think Israel is justified in occupying Palestine, apartheid and targeting civilians?
Do you think Israel is justified in turning Gaza into a death camp?
The problem with a one-state solution (call it Palestisrael) is that in a few election cycles there will be a majority Arab party government in power, and it doesn't take much imagination to figure out where the Jews would stand in that new nation under that circumstance.
Israel is currently a Jewish theocracy, just as Iran, etc., are Muslim theocracies. Not ideal, but that's the way it is in the Middle East.
Israel's Jews would be fools to allow their country to become just another Muslim controlled nation.
Are you saying you don't think Israel can survive as a democracy and needs to forever stay apartheid?
I see lots of posts where you're defending Hamas' choice. Where are the posts where you criticize their butchering civilians? Oh that's right, you've repeatedly posted that Jews in Israel is fair game because in your words "you can't tell them apart".
Is this ok with you? The 'Japan solution' you suggested the other day?
The last one was on the previous page right here.
Where are your posts calling out Israel for targeting civilians, hospitals, schools, medics or children?
Oh right, there are zero.
You have defended every single killing of Palestinians here for years.
Regardless of the situation.
Just as I'm sure you'd defend this.
Unfortunately Israel cannot survive as a Jewish theocracy if it would become a true democracy that would include all Palestinians.
How many times do I have to say that a 2 state solution that would assure the peaceful co-existence of both the Palestinians and the Jews in their respective nations, with all Arab nations acknowledging Israel's right to exist, is the only possible solution to this never-ending tragedy? In my opinion if it would mean Israel giving a reasonable amount of land back to the Palestinians to give them a proper new homeland, with natural resources and livable borders, etc., so be it.
