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Josephine Grey

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I am curious to know what are your views on monogamy after being a companion for a few years? Do you view it to be something not realistic or something feasible, a social construct? It makes me curious as some clientele are married and infidelity even in general, can be rampant.
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Lol honestly I try not to think about all that because I cannot base my relationship on my opinion of what I saw in this industry. I would be biased and it would be unfair to the men in front of me. If he cheats he is out. Really i dont have time to waste enabling primal instinct that can be controled. Are men monogamous in general? No. I know that but hey, your problem to deal with.
 

kherg007

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IIRC the divorce rate dropped back in Oz once the brothels there became legal...
 

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IIRC the divorce rate dropped back in Oz once the brothels there became legal...
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And just like that, it became easier to drop your pants rather than dealing with your unhappiness. No judgement, but it is what it is.
 

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And just like that, it became easier to drop your pants rather than dealing with your unhappiness. No judgement, but it is what it is.
Sometimes the only unhappiness is a spouse who doesn't want to have sex. Thus a no strings attached session with a lady for whom one is punching above their weight now and then keeps the ship of state sailing forward.
At least the mates of mine back in Oz who have partaken believe this.
 

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Sometimes the only unhappiness is a spouse who doesn't want to have sex. Thus a no strings attached session with a lady for whom one is punching above their weight now and then keeps the ship of state sailing forward.
At least the mates of mine back in Oz who have partaken believe this.
Well we could talk about it a long time and justify it but there is always 3 version of a story. There is a reason why she doesnt want to anymore. Probably the same as theirs.
 

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If this is for the wife, realistically you’re far more likely to out yourself via web pages left open, phones, messages, different behaviours, unexplained gaps in time, unexplained money flow or the wrong BBJ/DATY….
Yeah that was the perspective I was asking the question from. A lot of gents in this hobby have wives or gf's who they want to keep this a secret from. Giving an ID or other personal info out to an escort always carries some risk. Even moreso these days with the amount of cyber crime and hacking that goes on. Sure you can get caught other ways like you said if you don't cover your tracks well but giving out personal info to an escort or agency who may have no form of cyber security is pretty risky as well. I guess as a gent who has a wife or gf you want to do your best to cover ALL your tracks the best you can
 

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Yeah that was the perspective I was asking the question from. A lot of gents in this hobby have wives or gf's who they want to keep this a secret from. Giving an ID or other personal info out to an escort always carries some risk. Even moreso these days with the amount of cyber crime and hacking that goes on. Sure you can get caught other ways like you said if you don't cover your tracks well but giving out personal info to an escort or agency who may have no form of cyber security is pretty risky as well. I guess as a gent who has a wife or gf you want to do your best to cover ALL your tracks the best you can
Always true but I think blackmail for an SPs upset boyfriend\opportunist is lower on the Pareto chart with the wrong BBJ/DATY being near the top.
 

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I am curious to know what are your views on monogamy after being a companion for a few years? Do you view it to be something not realistic or something feasible, a social construct? It makes me curious as some clientele are married and infidelity even in general, can be rampant.
I am curious to know what are your views on monogamy after being a companion for a few years? Do you view it to be something not realistic or something feasible, a social construct? It makes me curious as some clientele are married and infidelity even in general, can be rampant. I don’t think humans are made to be with only one person for the rest of their life. I also don’t believe I can be in a committed relationship with someone who sleep around. So therefore I chose to remain single.
 

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anywhere i want;)
Sesta/Fosta voted by Trump. "If you have been a sex worker within the last 10 yrs, you are not admissible to enter the United State". I got my sex worker ban.

Information that was communicated to my Capital One and I was terminated without no reason given to me.

Also a lot of ladies these days see there account close for the deposit the receive from Onlyfans.

That is very unfortunate and somewhat crazy to me .

Unless you disclose you are a sex worker how are they to know ?

My key things to do while traveling is never under any circumstances bring a work phone or anything that will tie me to the industry.
 

Josephine Grey

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That is very unfortunate and somewhat crazy to me .

Unless you disclose you are a sex worker how are they to know ?

My key things to do while traveling is never under any circumstances bring a work phone or anything that will tie me to the industry.
I did none of those things but thanks for the advice. Facial recognition system.
 
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illusionrulez1

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Thanks for starting this interesting thread-
As a newbie in indulging into this “hobby”, I noticed that bare back oral (both bbbj and daty) is very sought after. Now, I am so nervous about STIs I would only chose CBJ and daty using Lorals ( look it up if you don’t know it).
As a provider, would you enjoy providing CBJ more and receiving using a product like Lorals or bb is always better for enjoyment? Would you be able to make covered as enjoyable to a client as a BBBj?
 

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So these days screening requirements is becoming more and more common amongst sp's and many gents think that some of the info being asked for is very intrusive(I.e. personal ID, LinkedIn profile, work info etc). As a gent who may just be starting out in this hobby who is reluctant to provide a lot of personal details what assurances can sp's give him that his personal info doesn't fall into the wrong hands mistakingly? Do sp's have any kind of cyber security protocol where they protect client info that is provided and to not get hacked and prevent a situation like the AM scandal that broke out a few years ago?

I see where these clients are coming from, but I would follow up your first question with what other assurances can a new client give a the provider that they aren't going to rape, murder, or otherwise hurt us? New clients wouldn't have references as on option, so what is a provider supposed to do besides ask for these other options? For these clients the immediate fear is being exposed, whereas our immediate fear is for our lives and physical safety, so we're not starting out on an even footing here.

The good news is we don't want to be outed either, and discretion is very important to protect our personal lives as well as our business model. It's literally in our best interest to protect your details. The other good news is if you're talking about seeing an indy provider, the chances of anyone being interested in hacking her for that info compared to a mega site like Ashley Madison, is extremely extremely low. It's just wouldn't be worth the hackers effort for the small amount of data they could possibly get.

I can't speak for everyone, but I use encrypted email and file storage for my admin, I think this is pretty common as I learnt to do that from the advice of other providers. Some clients will find it easier to text me screening details, and when they do I delete them from my device once I've finished with my process, and anything I think I need to keep is safely stored in my encrypted drive.
I can see and respect both perspectives as well on this issue. To answer your question I don't think ANY new client can give assurances to an SP that they won't do something to harm her. It's an inherent risk that comes with seeing someone new and unfortunately it's part of the job. I do fully accept that the sp's safety comes first before anything else. On the other hand I would say that just because a client provides screening info it doesn't mean they won't harm an SP. If a guy has the intention of harming an SP they are going to do it regardless of what info they provide to her. Sure the sp can out him and expose him for his wrongdoings which she totally should but at the end of the day the damage has already been done if that makes sense? From a gents perspective I can understand and do agree that screening info being requested is intrusive especially for those that have SO's and are worried about being exposed. I have always thought that anonymity, discretion, secrecy, and safety have been the foundations of this hobby from the very beginning and some of these have eroded over time. I have been seeing sp's long enough to remember a time where there was more trust between client and sp and things were just a little more safe, anonymous, and discreet i guess? A time when the majority of sp's didn't request any kind of screening info and literally just used there natural instincts to figure out if a client would be "safe" or not. I am happy to hear that some sp's use encrypted email and some sort of file storage system where client info is somewhat protected and discarded promptly.
 

Josephine Grey

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Thanks for starting this interesting thread-
As a newbie in indulging into this “hobby”, I noticed that bare back oral (both bbbj and daty) is very sought after. Now, I am so nervous about STIs I would only chose CBJ and daty using Lorals ( look it up if you don’t know it).
As a provider, would you enjoy providing CBJ more and receiving using a product like Lorals or bb is always better for enjoyment? Would you be able to make covered as enjoyable to a client as a BBBj?
I will do whatever it takes to make my client comfortable. I do have flavored dental dam, female condom and non lubricated condom for bj. BUT the line is thin between being safe and projecting your stress on your provider. If you really try to be safe go see an all safe provider (no fluid exchange at all) or masturbate home.
 

Fred french

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Here is my question
I'm a man that is looking to book
I email them questions not on their site
I'm trying to understand if what I request they can fulfill
And I get ignored and I feel not treated fairly and honestly
I'm not looking just to chat but seriously book them
 

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Here is my question
I'm a man that is looking to book
I email them questions not on their site
I'm trying to understand if what I request they can fulfill
And I get ignored and I feel not treated fairly and honestly
I'm not looking just to chat but seriously book them

I'm a man that is looking to book
I email them questions not on their site
I'm trying to understand if what I request they can fulfill
And I get ignored and I feel not treated fairly and honestly

I'm not looking just to chat but seriously book them
Are you trying to book an independent companion? Because if so, I would strongly recommend that you read my thread on “booking an indy”. If after that you still have questions, please do not hesitate to send me a direct message.
 
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Josephine Grey

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Here is my question
I'm a man that is looking to book
I email them questions not on their site
I'm trying to understand if what I request they can fulfill
And I get ignored and I feel not treated fairly and honestly
I'm not looking just to chat but seriously book them
You ask for an outfit request that is essential for you in order to book and you wont buy it if we dont have it.

For most provider you are not interested in spending time with them but more or so with your outfit.

I would take their silence as a no and move on.
 

Fred french

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You ask for an outfit request that is essential for you in order to book and you wont buy it if we dont have it.

For most provider you are not interested in spending time with them but more or so with your outfit.

I would take their silence as a no and move on.
Actually it wasnt about an outfit
I was responding to her plea for financial help after she was left almost homeless by an ex
I just think it's rude to not respond at all to someone serious
 
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