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everytime franky slander me without evidence i will post his anti-semitic terrorist supporting posts. franky is the same man who will run to the mods when he feels other members lie about his posts
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These are the posts you claim are anti-semitic 'terrorist supporting' posts:


www.amnesty.org

Israel's apartheid against Palestinians

Palestinians are systematically subjected to home demolitions and forced evictions, and live in constant fear of losing their homes. For more than 73 years, Israel has been forcibly displacing entire Palestinian communities. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians’ homes have been demolished...
www.amnesty.org www.amnesty.org


www.hrw.org

A Threshold Crossed

The 213-page report, “A Threshold Crossed: Israeli Authorities and the Crimes of Apartheid and Persecution,” examines Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. It presents the present-day reality of a single authority, the Israeli government, ruling primarily over the area between the Jordan River and...
www.hrw.org www.hrw.org


www.btselem.org

Apartheid

The Israeli regime enacts in all the territory it controls (Israeli sovereign territory, East Jerusalem, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip) an apartheid regime. One organizing principle lies at the base of a wide array of Israeli policies: advancing and perpetuating the supremacy of one group –...
www.btselem.org www.btselem.org

news.un.org

Israel’s occupation of Palestinian Territory is ‘apartheid’: UN rights expert

Calling on the international community to accept and adopt the recent findings in his report, an independent human rights expert said on Friday that “apartheid is being practiced by Israel in the occupied Palestinian territory”.
news.un.org news.un.org
 
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everytime franky slander me without evidence i will post his anti-semitic terrorist supporting posts. franky is the same man who will run to the mods when he feels other members lie about his posts




quoting the Palestinian Centre for Human Right who are linked to the PLPF terrorist organization







quoting btselem an anti-semitic website who was caught hiring holocaust deniers



racist towards me saying blacks cannot defend israel ignoeing the fact that over 180,000 black people reside in israel which includes 25,000
black americans. quoting jewish voice for peace that supports terrorism and was busted citing neo nazi and white supremacists websites





claiming that black persons cannot support Israel that have over 180,000 black people living there







justifying terrorists attacks against israeli and jewish civilians














supports the anti-jewish vandalizing of a business owned by a Jewish man and making excuses for it







promoting the ethnic cleansing of Jews from the region.







apologist for hamas the terror group






defending the PLFP terror group




refuses to condemn anti-jewish hate crimes commited by anti-jewish gangs







refuses to condemn the anti-semitic attacks on jewish shoppers at a supermaket in Thornhill, Ontario Canada.




franky continues to sink deeper and deeper into anti-jewish terrorism. franky defends a mapping project in Massacheusets
anti-jewish activists create a list of jewish organzations for anti-semitic purposes



more anti-black racism





supports and defend anti-semitic actions at the University of Wisconsin




franky butturt at the definition of anti-semitism because he is one





franky defends a terrorist that was killed in a shootout with the IDF





defends hamas claiming that it is islamophobic to call hamas terrrorists



defending an anti-semitic terror supporting rally




defending a terrorist attack against a security guard(security guards are civilians)



still refuses to condemn hamas





post anti-black racism to deflect rom his support for terrorists and anti-jewish hate crimes



justified the murder of a security guard



franky resorts to slander defending the Fatah organization who admitted that they are a terrorist organization




continue to lie and slander



still lying and slander





still defending hamas



franky saying the intafada(terrorism and against israelis and jews) is resistance



defending a voilent anti-semitic organization "Within our lifetime"




defending hamas again





defending Rabab Abdulhadi, a San Francisco State University associate professor with a history of expressing support for terrorist groups





defending PFLP Terrorist organization



defending the Fatah organization that recently called for terrorist attacks against Israel




Franky defending the terrorists that were killed after shooting at the IDF



Franky defending an anti-jewish hate crime vandalism




citing an anti-semitic, terrorist supporter Sana Saeed




defending terrorist organzation calling themselves the lions den





refusing to condemn anti-jewish hate crimes in New York



Justifying the murder of civilians




franky supports the right of palestinians to commit terrorism against jews and israelis



justifying the killing of Israeli Civilians


franky's continued justification for terrorist attacks





promoting a youtube channel that promotes holocaust denialism, anti-semitic claims of jewish control, the khazaria myth, and terror apologism




franky used an anti-semitic term "Jewish Supremacy" which is used by white supremacists, neo nazis and other anti-jewish types to demonize jews





franky again quoting from btselem who hires holocaust deniers using the anti-semitic term "Jewish Supremacy

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Are you going to condemn or support the continuing abuse of Christians in the Occupied Territories?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1647180367609118722

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1647247412992540673
 
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Frankfooter said:
Not even close.
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And the sad thing is that part of you actually believes that your continual use of anti-semitic tropes and justifying attacks on Israeli Jews is fighting for human rights.


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Now you say its antisemitic to talk about the success of a public lobbying group.
What next?
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She said America is "subjugated by the Jewish Lobby". You condemned MTG for her Jewish space lasers thing but here's a woman claiming Jews control American policy and you love her simply because she is as anti-semitic as you are.

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Like Amnesty International?
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How about HRW? You condemned Israel for shutting down supposed rights groups yet you are absolutely silent when HRW condemns the PA for shutting down rights groups. Of course we all know the only reason you need to condemn Israel is it and its Jewish population exist.

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What a stupid claim, I keep posting from Jewish organizations like B'tselem, Breaking the Silence and IJVCanada.
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While automatically rejecting the opinions of any Jews you disagree with claiming their religion makes their opinion too biased to accept.

It's called tokenism.
I just hate racists.
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Except any Arab/Palestinian racist or anyone who dresses up their racism in the language of "anti-zionism".
 
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Is Foreign Affairs magazine antisemetic?

“A one-state arrangement is not a future possibility; it already exists,...
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Any comment on the fact that the vast majority of Palestinians het that idea?
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Or are you just another western elitist like Franky who doesn't care about what Palestinians say?
 
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Any comment on the fact that the vast majority of Palestinians het that idea?
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Or are you just another western elitist like Franky who doesn't care about what Palestinians say?
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As opposed to you being a dilettante rather than answering the question yourself - do you believe the Israeli occupiers should respect the expressed will of the Palestinian people and end the occupation immediately?

If not, you’d be one of those western elites.
 
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And the sad thing is that part of you actually believes that your continual use of anti-semitic tropes and justifying attacks on Israeli Jews is fighting for human rights.
She said America is "subjugated by the Jewish Lobby". You condemned MTG for her Jewish space lasers thing but here's a woman claiming Jews control American policy and you love her simply because she is as anti-semitic as you are.
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Sorry, basketcase, but this is just yet another Israeli organization trying to tar those who criticize them. The group behind this attack are torture supporters out to defend apartheid.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1646421396795301889

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1167918931610177538


How about HRW? You condemned Israel for shutting down supposed rights groups yet you are absolutely silent when HRW condemns the PA for shutting down rights groups. Of course we all know the only reason you need to condemn Israel is it and its Jewish population exist.
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I fully support investigations into both Palestinians and Israelis over all allegations raised by HRW and Amnesty.
Its you that won't join this call and you that won't support HRW reports.
 
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Any comment on the fact that the vast majority of Palestinians het that idea?
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Or are you just another western elitist like Franky who doesn't care about what Palestinians say?
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Palestinians don't trust Abbas or Israelis, that's not a big surprise.
How many Palestinians do you think support the occupation or apartheid?

If you're looking at polls, don't forget that 25% of US Jews say Israel is apartheid and 58% think the US should not fund the occupation any more.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1415399370028208133

So go ahead and find the polls that say how many Palestinians support living under Israeli apartheid.
Find the polls that show how popular apartheid really is, go ahead.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1647008092121440258
 
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As opposed to you being a dilettante rather than answering the question yourself - do you believe the Israeli occupiers should respect the expressed will of the Palestinian people and end the occupation immediately?

If not, you’d be one of those western elites.
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I know having a consistent set of morals is confusing to you but I've been clear that my solution is pressuring both sides into a negotiated peace that both sides could accept. Far better than your idea of just shooting any Jew in the West Bank.

I have no problem listening to what both sides want and have no problem criticizing both sides for things that I find wrong (such as the the 61% who support "attacks on Israeli civilians inside Israel"). That said, I know that there can be no peace unless both sides agree to peace. You wanting a solution forced on Palestinians that they (and Israelis) hate will not solve anything.
 
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Sorry, basketcase, but this is just yet another Israeli organization trying to tar those who criticize them....
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???

HRW's criticism of the PA for banning rights groups is an Israeli plot? Shit.

It's about as dumb an excuse as your UN hero claiming a conspiracy against her because an Israeli paper published her statements claiming Jews have subjugated America. She is an outright anti-semite, following the traditional conspiracy theories about Jews controlling the world. Of course you have no problem supporting anti-semites if you think it will help your battle against Israel existing.
 
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I know having a consistent set of morals is confusing to you but I've been clear that my solution is pressuring both sides into a negotiated peace that both sides could accept. Far better than your idea of just shooting any Jew in the West Bank.

I have no problem listening to what both sides want and have no problem criticizing both sides for things that I find wrong (such as the the 61% who support "attacks on Israeli civilians inside Israel"). That said, I know that there can be no peace unless both sides agree to peace. You wanting a solution forced on Palestinians that they (and Israelis) hate will not solve anything.
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That’s not what you were asked. That was a Western elite answer - no mention of abiding what Palestinians have expressly wished. Try answering the question as posed. It’s easy.
 
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Palestinians don't trust Abbas or Israelis, that's not a big surprise.
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And what does that have to do with Palestinians detesting the elitist one state peace you want imposed on them?

And yes, the fact that a significant number of Palestinians reject any kind of peace with Jews remaining is exactly part of the problem.
 
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That’s not what you were asked. Try answering the question as posed. It’s easy.
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I asked: Do you have any comment on the vast majority of Palestinians hating a One State solution? You chose not to answer of course.

To be really clear, if Palestinians overwhelmingly reject a One State peace then it's a non-starter and it is pretty pathetic when people claiming to fight for Palestinian rights choose to ignore what they say.


Again, do you care to comment on Palestinian opposition to a One State peace or are you just going to deny them agency?
 
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I asked: Do you have any comment on the vast majority of Palestinians hating a One State solution? You chose not to answer of course.

To be really clear, if Palestinians overwhelmingly reject a One State peace then it's a non-starter and it is pretty pathetic when people claiming to fight for Palestinian rights choose to ignore what they say.


Again, do you care to comment on Palestinian opposition to a One State peace or are you just going to deny them agency?
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Still not answering the question and adopting a Western elite response. Just answer the question as posed. It’s incredibly simple.
 
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???

HRW's criticism of the PA for banning rights groups is an Israeli plot? Shit.

It's about as dumb an excuse as your UN hero claiming a conspiracy against her because an Israeli paper published her statements claiming Jews have subjugated America. She is an outright anti-semite, following the traditional conspiracy theories about Jews controlling the world. Of course you have no problem supporting anti-semites if you think it will help your battle against Israel existing.
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Conspiracy? No one has mentioned that but you. As usual….and then you try to blame the other person for what you made up. It’s so transparent.

But you have to concede that this is just another of the comical pro Israel astroturf groups that pretend to have a patina of legitimacy.

And, let’s be blunt….this bleating about her being antisemitic is predictable and axiomatic and all it does is normalize antisemitism. You have become an avid normalizer.
 
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I know having a consistent set of morals is confusing to you but I've been clear that my solution is pressuring both sides into a negotiated peace that both sides could accept. Far better than your idea of just shooting any Jew in the West Bank.

I have no problem listening to what both sides want and have no problem criticizing both sides for things that I find wrong (such as the the 61% who support "attacks on Israeli civilians inside Israel"). That said, I know that there can be no peace unless both sides agree to peace. You wanting a solution forced on Palestinians that they (and Israelis) hate will not solve anything.
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Trying to redo Oslo so that Israel can continue establishing 'facts on the ground' is a red herring.
Israel had 53 years to settle for a two state solution, its clear they have no interest in a settlement, they just want more land.

The one state solution is already in place.
There is no Palestine and no viable Palestinian state possible.

So its time to end apartheid through international pressure.
That's the only peaceful way forward left.
 
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It's about as dumb an excuse as your UN hero claiming a conspiracy against her because an Israeli paper published her statements claiming Jews have subjugated America. She is an outright anti-semite, following the traditional conspiracy theories about Jews controlling the world. Of course you have no problem supporting anti-semites if you think it will help your battle against Israel existing.
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She is not, she has been attacked by a Micheal Mukasey, a Bush lawyer who fought for torturing Iraqis during the war.
Noting the success of AIPAC is not antisemitic.

You are defending apartheid, your views are the issue here, not those who report that you are backing war crimes and apartheid.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1647240111120064514
 
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And what does that have to do with Palestinians detesting the elitist one state peace you want imposed on them?

And yes, the fact that a significant number of Palestinians reject any kind of peace with Jews remaining is exactly part of the problem.
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The de facto apartheid one state solution that is already in place is 'elitist', its true.
But that's only because its ruled through Jewish supremacy, once apartheid is ended it can become a democracy.

www.btselem.org

A regime of Jewish supremacy from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea: This is apartheid

More than 14 million people, roughly half of them Jews and the other half Palestinians, live between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea under a single rule. The common perception in public, political, legal and media discourse is that two separate regimes operate side by side in this...
www.btselem.org www.btselem.org
 
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I asked: Do you have any comment on the vast majority of Palestinians hating a One State solution?
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Of course most Palestinians hate the Apartheid One State solution you are supporting.

The question is what are you going to do about it?
 
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She is not, she has been attacked by a Micheal Mukasey, a Bush lawyer who fought for torturing Iraqis during the war.
Noting the success of AIPAC is not antisemitic.

You are defending apartheid, your views are the issue here, not those who report that you are backing war crimes and apartheid.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1647240111120064514
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She’s more than up to the task, slapping down an overmatched Israeli cabinet minister.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1647595914922434563
 
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