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International Holocaust Remembrance Day

basketcase

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Of course you argue that Palestinians have no right to armed resistance to an occupation ...
Why do you keep trying to claim that attacking random Jews is 'self defence'?

Palestinians choosing to attack arrest teams is not terrorism. You could maybe portray protecting terrorists from arrest as self defence. But then you stupidly try and claim that it's terrorism for Israeli troops to return fire.


p.s. Why are you unwilling to talk about Turkey's 50 year illegal occupation of Northern Cyprus, their systemic oppression of Greek Cypriots and Kurds, their occupation of North Syria, and their regular attacks on Syria? It's amazing what you're willing to accept from non-Jews.
 

Frankfooter

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Palestinians choosing to attack arrest teams is not terrorism.
This is a start to acknowledging that Palestinians have a right to self defence.
Its the first step.

Though you also need to start by acknowledging that the occupation is illegal.
 

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This is a start to acknowledging that Palestinians have a right to self defence.
Its the first step.

Though you also need to start by acknowledging that the occupation is illegal.
I love it when you try and pretend attacks on random Jews are self defence.

p.s. Why are you unwilling to talk about Turkey's 50 year illegal occupation of Northern Cyprus, their systemic oppression of Greek Cypriots and Kurds, their occupation of North Syria, and their regular attacks on Syria? It's amazing what you're willing to accept from non-Jews.
 

Frankfooter

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I love it when you try and pretend attacks on random Jews are self defence.
I get bored by your constant straw men.
I have never said that.

p.s. Why are you unwilling to talk about Turkey's 50 year illegal occupation of Northern Cyprus, their systemic oppression of Greek Cypriots and Kurds, their occupation of North Syria, and their regular attacks on Syria? It's amazing what you're willing to accept from non-Jews.
Whataboutism.

Though Erdogan is a despot he holds nothing on Netanyahu.
I hear the protests are getting bigger in Israel and now with his UK visit London is a mess.

 

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Whataboutism.
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The classic defence for a racist double standard.

You spend tens of thousands of posts condemning Israel's existence (in this handle alone) using the excuse of occupation, systemic racism, and attacking other countries while staying absolutely silent on Turkey's occupations, systemic racism, and attacks on other countries.

Just like you're compulsive defence of Iran, you are fine with Turkey doing all this because Erdogan (like Iran's despots) is fairly hostile to Israel.


You would benefit from being more honest with yourself like your little buddy and just admit that you think Israel is illegitimate and support anything that harms Israel or Israeli Jews. Your continual dismissal of Palestinians ideas and agency shows you clearly aren't motivated by their lives.




p.s. Yes, the protests in Israel are growing because Israel, as a democracy allows free exchange of ideas. But you will go on and on condemning Israel because the current government move towards authoritarianism while endorsing Palestinian and Arab governments that are orders of magnitude more despotic.
 

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p.s. Yes, the protests in Israel are growing because Israel, as a democracy allows free exchange of ideas. But you will go on and on condemning Israel because the current government move towards authoritarianism while endorsing Palestinian and Arab governments that are orders of magnitude more despotic.
Israel's government is in the process of becoming as democratic as Iran. Which you call 'a free exchange of ideas'.
Nice.

If you want to have a debate about who is worse, Turkey or Israel, we can go there.
Start a new thread, I doubt it would last more than a few posts, but go ahead.
 
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Israel's government is in the process of becoming as democratic as Iran. ...
But you keep defending Iran and have repeatedly claimed they were an open democracy. Interesting. What I find most pathetic about your posting history is you show absolutely zero self-awareness of your racist double standard and your dismissal of non-white people.




p.s. It's not an issue of worse (have you ever looked at the population transfer of the Greco-Turkish war, the Armenian genocide, the invasion of Cyprus, or the oppression of Kurds), it's the fact that you devote 0% of your criticism to Turkey even though they are doing exactly what you claim to have an issue with.
 
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