International Holocaust Remembrance Day

[basketcase]

More of your bedfellows

Greek Church condemns ‘terror attack’ after clerics targeted at Jerusalem holy site

Israel Police say southern Israel resident wielding iron bar arrested for 'violent incident' at Tomb of the Virgin Mary; eyewitness claims two Jewish men involved

www.timesofisrael.com

Wow. A Jewish news source.

Is anyone here trying to justify that attack? Did you note that Israeli police arrested the person?

There's more stories you missed while there.

Settler extremists suspected of vandalizing cars in Palestinian city

Rights group says 25 vehicles damaged in Salfit; graffiti on wall reads 'price tag'; police expected to launch investigation

www.timesofisrael.com

Also deserve condemnation

Victim of Tel Aviv shooting dies of wounds 11 days after terror attack

He 'showered nothing but goodness, love and giving on everyone who crossed his path,' says mother of 32-year-old Or Eshkar, after he succumbed to his injuries

www.timesofisrael.com

A killing that you justified.

And another one for you to celebrate

Israeli, an ex-US Marine, badly wounded in West Bank shooting; terrorist caught

Victim David Stern manages to shoot back; gunman initially flees scene on foot after opening fire at couple in car on Route 60 in Huwara

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Klatuu]

But you have no problem with the official maps of the PA showing Palestine replacing Israel.

No hypocrisy there.

i like your magical thinking. Make up a claim, blame the target of the claim, and then hold them responsible for what you made up.

Did you do all that just to avoid the racism of an Israeli minister? It’s the ethos of apartheid

 

[Klatuu]

Wow. A Jewish news source.

Is anyone here trying to justify that attack? Did you note that Israeli police arrested the person?

There's more stories you missed while there.

Settler extremists suspected of vandalizing cars in Palestinian city

Rights group says 25 vehicles damaged in Salfit; graffiti on wall reads 'price tag'; police expected to launch investigation

www.timesofisrael.com

Also deserve condemnation

Victim of Tel Aviv shooting dies of wounds 11 days after terror attack

He 'showered nothing but goodness, love and giving on everyone who crossed his path,' says mother of 32-year-old Or Eshkar, after he succumbed to his injuries

www.timesofisrael.com

A killing that you justified.

And another one for you to celebrate

Israeli, an ex-US Marine, badly wounded in West Bank shooting; terrorist caught

Victim David Stern manages to shoot back; gunman initially flees scene on foot after opening fire at couple in car on Route 60 in Huwara

www.timesofisrael.com

For the sake of fundamental equity, can you list all the Palestinians that have been killed? It kind of skews reality when you ignore victims who number so much more.

 

[Frankfooter]

Sadly your posting history verifies it.

As to your link, your extremely one-sided source chooses to ignore that two of the dead were the targets of the arrest attempt, senior leaders in Hamas and PIJ while the other two when they came under fire.

They are still Death Squads, all they do is kill Palestinians.
There is no rule of law, only death.

Death Squad:

West Bank: Four Palestinians killed in Israeli raid on Jenin

Sixteen-year-old Omar Muhammad Awadin was amongst those killed in a raid on West Bank city

www.middleeasteye.net

The posts where you continually justify the killing of Jews for being in the West Bank are you justifying terrorism.

Your racist elitism in refusing to hold Palestinians as responsible for their actions is tiring.

The posts where you make up straw man claims about what I say only show how you lost the argument.
I've called you out on these claims, you can't back them up as they are total bullshit.
You're down to blatant lies instead of arguments.

That's just sad and pathetic.
You defend apartheid by making up lies about those critical of apartheid.
Sad.

As Klatu said:
i like your magical thinking. Make up a claim, blame the target of the claim, and then hold them responsible for what you made up.

Remember, the UN says the occupation is the cause of all the violence, not the resistance to the occupation.
“None of this violence would occur if Israel were to end its illegal, half-century old occupation immediately and unconditionally as required by international law,” they said.

 

[Klatuu]

These settlers just can’t resist beating people….they seem to have just as much invective for people who support Palestinians.

And guess what….no arrests. This is structural racism.

'Who hits a 64-year-old woman with a bat?'

Cassandra Oren, an American peace activist, was visiting the Palestinian village of Tuba when settlers attacked her with a bat and fractured her skull.

www.972mag.com

 

[shack]

How is posting the UN statement calling for Israel to end a 53 year old illegal occupation 'justifying killing civilians'?
Are you at the point where even calling for Israel to respect human rights and honour UN resolutions sounds like death threats to you?

The standards followed in N. America for human rights are more closely followed by Israel than any Arab nations.

 

[shack]

You and basketcase are the only ones on these threads that refuse to call out terrorism.

Israel’s Smotrich: 'There's no such thing as Palestinians'

Far-right minister said on Sunday that 'there's no such thing as a Palestinian people', and that anyway he is a 'real Palestinian'

www.middleeasteye.net

You have never called out Israeli terrorism, not settler terrorism and not state terrorism.

You and your little buddy Gilligan are the only ones in these threads supporting and making excuses for blatant terrorism and in some twisted way calling it self defense.

 

[Frankfooter]

The standards followed in N. America for human rights are more closely followed by Israel than any Arab nations.

Not true in the least.

How many other Arab nations are ruling through apartheid?
How many have a 50 year old occupation?
How many of those Arab nations are constantly bombing their neighbours?

There are a lot of reasons why there are so many more UN resolutions on Israel, and none are race based.
Just human rights and international law issues.

 

[Frankfooter]

You and your little buddy Gilligan are the only ones in these threads supporting and making excuses for blatant terrorism and in some twisted way calling it self defense.

Prove it.

Call out Israel using snipers on civilian protesters at the Great March of Return.
Until you do, you and basketcase are the only ones that doesn't call out terrorism.

 

[Klatuu]

The standards followed in N. America for human rights are more closely followed by Israel than any Arab nations.

Well Sad Shack, there is some truth to that….our white supremacism is analogous to zionism.

 

[basketcase]

i like your magical thinking. Make up a claim, ...

Do you live in a world where Palestinian media and the terror organizations making these claims are really controlled by Israel?

And yes, the names of Palestinians killed in that raid are published in the article, using the PA and the statements of Hamas and PIJ. But sure, Hamas lies about this stuff to justify Israel.

 

[basketcase]

They are still Death Squads, all they do is kill Palestinians.

Wow your trash is becoming more and more Karen-like.

The PA, Hamas, and PIJ claimed the targets as high level members of their terror groups. But what do they know.

 

[basketcase]

These settlers just can’t resist beating people….t...

Saying "these people" pretty much confirms who the racist is.

Another clue is that I've repeatedly condemned these settler freaks and some have even been arrested by the Israeli government. At the same time, you busily try to justify freaks like this guy.

Palestinian to be charged for stabbing woman in Netanya; coat saved her from harm

Alleged terror attack in coastal city occurred on March 12; suspect from West Bank did not have an entry permit into Israel

www.timesofisrael.com

And yes, inside Israel's side of the green line.

 

[basketcase]

Not true in the least.

How many other Arab nations are ruling through apartheid?

Turkey?

How many have a 50 year old occupation?

Turkey?

How many of those Arab nations are constantly bombing their neighbours?

Turkey?

I know Turkey isn't Arab but they have been occupying Northern Cyprus for 50 years, implement different rules for Greek Orthodox there, at least the ones that weren't ethnically cleansed. Then there is the massive population transfer at Turkey's establishment which doesn't bother you. Add in their persecution of the Kurds and their violent occupation of Northern Syria meant to further oppress Kurds.

The thing is Kurds are a distinct people being denied a homeland but all you want to whine about is that when the Ottoman Empire collapsed, one Jewish majority state was formed in the midst of a whole bunch of Arab states.

p.s. Like the Palestinians, the Kurds have a valid claim to their own state but like the Palestinians, groups like the PKK trying to achieve it through terror deserve to be condemned.



p.p.s. Pretty fucking stupid that you're claiming most Arab states follow anything like the Canadian idea of human rights and freedom.

 

[Frankfooter]

Wow your trash is becoming more and more Karen-like.

The PA, Hamas, and PIJ claimed the targets as high level members of their terror groups. But what do they know.

Really, where did the PA or Hamas say they were terror groups?

I don't really care what you think they did, they are still death squads.
Its a bit like all of a sudden you think Pinochet was justified with his death squads and disappearances.
Pinochet killed/disappeared about 3,000.

So far Israel has already killed 3x that many.

Database on fatalities and house demolitions

Database on fatalities and house demolitions in the Occupied Territories and Israel in the context of the conflict

statistics.btselem.org

I'm sure Pinochet's supporters thought they all deserved to die as well.

 

[Frankfooter]

Saying "these people" pretty much confirms who the racist is.

Another clue is that I've repeatedly condemned these settler freaks and some have even been arrested by the Israeli government. At the same time, you busily try to justify freaks like this guy.

And yes, inside Israel's side of the green line.

Its all about the scale, basketcase.
You'll bring up one case like this and demand we denounce it.

But for every act you want denounced, you need to denounce each act committed by terrorist settlers and Israeli terrorists.
Have you made 149 posts denouncing those 149 settler terrorist attacks?
How many resulted in charges or sentences? Likely zero.


So far in 2023, IOF attacks killed 83 Palestinians, including 41 civilians; 14 of them were children and one woman, and the rest were members of the Palestinian armed groups, including 2 children, as well as 6 killed by settlers, and one died in Israeli prisons. Meanwhile, 349 Palestinians, including 47 children, 2 women and 9 journalists, were injured.

Since the beginning of the year, settlers have conducted at least 149 attacks against Palestinian civilians and their property. As a result, 5 Palestinians were killed, and dozens of others were injured; most of them after being beaten and thrown with stones. Also, dozens of houses, vehicles and civilian facilities were set ablaze.

 

[Frankfooter]

Turkey?

You think Turkey is apartheid?
Bwahahahaha

 

[basketcase]

Really, where did the PA or Hamas say they were terror groups?
...

I know you never listen to Palestinians but you're just being intentionally obtuse, simply because you know there's no moral defence for your racist double standard and your elitist views on Palestinians.

So far in 2023, IOF attacks killed 83 Palestinians, including 41 civilians; 14 of them were children and one woman, and the rest were members of the Palestinian armed groups

And where the fuck do you think I need to condemn every stone throwing before you condemn Palestinians stabbing random women or shooting up a restaurant patio?

But sure, I will repeatedly denounce incidents where radical settlers attack Palestinian civilians (while you continue to justify when radical Palestinians attack Jewish civilians).

Actually that's not quite correct. It is difficulty to describe 71% of the population as radicals.

 

[basketcase]

You think Turkey is apartheid?
Bwahahahaha

No I don't because Apartheid has an actual definition.

But yes, Turkey has laws in Northern Cyprus discriminating against the few Greek Orthodox that weren't forced out which they have occupied since 1974. Their invasion caused ethnic cleansing of Greek Cypriots from land Turkey conquered.

That 100% meets your definitions.

Turkey also has repressive laws against ethnic Kurds and because of that conflict, Turkey routinely bombs Kurdish enclaves in Syria (as well as a history of attacks in Iraq). They have been occupying a chunk of North Syria for the past 7 years.

Of course we can also discuss the massive population transfer at the end of the conflict with Greece. You won't want to though because as with every other population transfer, both sides went to the effort to assimilate refugees instead of locking them up for generations without rights.

But thanks for being so transparent. Israel occupies the West Bank and you think them evil. Turkey occupies Northern Cyprus and part of Syria and you stay silent. Israel has systemic discrimination and you consider them evil. Turkey has systemic discrimination and you don't care. Israel strikes Hezbollah/Iranian military targets in Syria and you say they're evil. Turkey strikes civilian sites in Syria and you're silent.

The more you post, the more you prove how well you meet the definition of anti-semitic.

 

[Frankfooter]

I know you never listen to Palestinians but you're just being intentionally obtuse, simply because you know there's no moral defence for your racist double standard and your elitist views on Palestinians.





And where the fuck do you think I need to condemn every stone throwing before you condemn Palestinians stabbing random women or shooting up a restaurant patio?

But sure, I will repeatedly denounce incidents where radical settlers attack Palestinian civilians (while you continue to justify when radical Palestinians attack Jewish civilians).

Actually that's not quite correct. It is difficulty to describe 71% of the population as radicals.
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Apartheid.

Of course you argue that Palestinians have no right to armed resistance to an occupation that the world recognizes is illegal.
Because you support apartheid, you support subjugating a people based entirely on race.

Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestinian territory, tantamount to ‘settler-colonialism’: UN expert

Israel’s occupation is illegal and indistinguishable from a “settler-colonial” situation, which must end, as a pre-condition for Palestinians to exercise their right to self-determination, the UN’s independent expert on the occupied Palestinian territory said on Thursday.

news.un.org

Support BDS and equal rights, that's the only anti-racist path forward left to bring about a peaceful solution to the status quo, one state, apartheid solution.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1638497933900279811