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Frankfooter

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You refuse to acknowledge that part of the problem is Palestinian/Arab leadership spending 100 years promoting hatred of Jews and promising their people that Jews will be removed from the region.
This is your own racist hatred showing here.
Not reality.
 

basketcase

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This is your own racist hatred showing here.
Not reality.
Yes, reality is racist to you, just like it is racist to mention that Hamas is a designated terrorist entity or say that Iran has an authoritarian government.

As celebrated by Palestinian sources, the Tel Aviv terrorist is pictured with a map saying all of Israel is really Palestine. The PA routinely publishes maps denying the existence of Israel. Hamas openly swears to eliminate the Jewish presence. the historic leader of the Palestinians at the time of Partition had spent the previous decade in Berlin as a recruiter for Hitler.

Sorry, just another case where your racist elitism has you ignore what Palestinians say or do simply because it doesn't fit your agenda.
 

basketcase

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And speaking of ignoring, I see you chose not to comment on the Hamas gunman shooting up a Tel Aviv restaurant. What's the matter? Is the story to triggering for you to discuss because a) it flies in the face of your claims Hamas doesn't engage in terror and b) you can't blame the victims for being Jews in the West Bank?
 

Frankfooter

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Yes, reality is racist to you, just like it is racist to mention that Hamas is a designated terrorist entity or say that Iran has an authoritarian government.

As celebrated by Palestinian sources, the Tel Aviv terrorist is pictured with a map saying all of Israel is really Palestine. The PA routinely publishes maps denying the existence of Israel. Hamas openly swears to eliminate the Jewish presence. the historic leader of the Palestinians at the time of Partition had spent the previous decade in Berlin as a recruiter for Hitler.

Sorry, just another case where your racist elitism has you ignore what Palestinians say or do simply because it doesn't fit your agenda.
You sound just like them, basketcase.
You keep saying all of Palestine is now Israel, Palestinians have no rights, no right to self defence and that they are all genocidal maniacs.

You sound like Hamas.
 

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And speaking of ignoring, I see you chose not to comment on the Hamas gunman shooting up a Tel Aviv restaurant. What's the matter? Is the story to triggering for you to discuss because a) it flies in the face of your claims Hamas doesn't engage in terror and b) you can't blame the victims for being Jews in the West Bank?
Why is it you think this one attack is the only one worthy of discussion?
Oh yes, race.
You only discuss attacks on Jews and never Palestinians.

So sure, lets add this Jerusalem to the list of attacks we should discuss.
Once we get through this list we can get right to it.


So far in 2023, IOF attacks killed 73 Palestinians, including 36 civilians; 12 of them were children and a woman, and the rest were members of the Palestinian armed groups, including 2 children, as well as 5 killed by settlers, and one died in Israeli prisons. Meanwhile, 335 Palestinians, including 45 children, 2 women and 8 journalists, were injured.


Since the beginning of 2023, IOF made 60 families homeless, a total of 383 persons, including 76 women and 171 children. This was the outcome of IOF demolition of 62 houses; 16 were forcibly self-demolished by their owners and 6 were demolished on grounds of collective punishment. IOF also demolished 55 other civilian objects, razed other property, and delivered dozens of notices of demolition and cease-construction in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem.


Since the beginning of the year, settlers have conducted at least 143 attacks against Palestinian civilians and their property. As a result, 5 Palestinians were killed and dozens of others were injured; most of them after being beaten and thrown with stones. Also, dozens of houses, vehicles and civilian facilities were set ablaze.

So far in 2023, IOF conducted 1,976 incursions into the West Bank, including occupied East Jerusalem, during which 974 Palestinians were arrested, including 18 women and 130 children. Also, IOF conducted 8 incursions and arrested 15 Palestinians from the Gaza Strip: 6 were fishermen, 8 were trying to infiltrate into Israel, and a traveler at Erez Crossing,.
 

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You sound just like them, basketcase.
You keep saying all of Palestine is now Israel, Palestinians have no rights, no right to self defence and that they are all genocidal maniacs.

You sound like Hamas.
Wow your attempted strawmen are dumb. Do you have no other way to try and wriggle your way out of your obsessive reality?

All you do is promote hatred and like any good conspiracy nut, you simply jump topic to topic every time your immorality and racist double standard gets exposed.
 

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Why is it you think this one attack is the only one worthy of discussion?
Oh yes, race.
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Yes, race is the reason why you refuse to comment on it.

Only one of us has routinely condemned attacks targeting civilians from both sides. I have never tried to justify the shooting of people driving along the road, I have never tried to justify shooting people simply because people don't like their religion being there, and I have never tried to justify shooting up a restaurant.

You on the other hand (rightfully) complain about things like the attack on Huwara but then turn around and call it terrorism when Israeli troops shoot back at Palestinian gunmen and keep claiming that Jews in the West bank are valid military targets.

You clearly support attacks on Jewish civilians and think Israel should be punished for trying to stop. Sorry but your transparent hatred is ridiculously obsessive.
 

Frankfooter

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Wow your attempted strawmen are dumb. Do you have no other way to try and wriggle your way out of your obsessive reality?

All you do is promote hatred and like any good conspiracy nut, you simply jump topic to topic every time your immorality and racist double standard gets exposed.
I support BDS, a non-violent use of divestment and sanctions to end Israeli apartheid.
That same apartheid as reported by Amnesty, HRW, B'tselem and the UN.

Ending apartheid is a way to deescalate and end the racial hatred you support through the settler colonial occupation you back.
This is the best way forward for peace and equality in Israel/Palestine.

All you offer is hate.

















 

Frankfooter

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Yes, race is the reason why you refuse to comment on it.

Only one of us has routinely condemned attacks targeting civilians from both sides.
No, you don't, basketcase.

In 99/100 of Israeli attacks on Palestinians you blame Palestinians or label them 'terrorist' to justify those attacks.
From the Great March of Return on to the attacks in Huwara and Jenin, all you've done is justify Israeli targeting of civilians.

I support taking both sides to the ICC based on all reports on both sides by those same Amnesty, HRW and B'tselem.
You will never support holding both sides to the law equally, which clearly labels you as the one that is supporting targeting civilians.
 

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Last week, a bunch of "anti-Zionists" got together for a webcast that next to nobody watched about the dangers of "normalization" with Israel.

One of the speakers was Omar Barghouti, who claims to be the founder of the BDS movement. He explains here what, exactly, BDS opposes when it says it opposes normalization with Israel, giving two conditions before anyone can meet with the "Israeli side." Paraphrasing, the Israeli side must oppose Israel's existence as a Jewish state, and the meeting itself must be an anti-Israel meeting.

Then at the very end of his description, Barghouti says, "Again, 'Israeli side' means Jewish Israelis or Jewish Israeli institutions as the case may be."

Meaning, that it is not "normalization" to meet with Israeli Arabs or Israeli Christians even if they are Zionist. The "crime" of normalization applies only to meeting Jews.

Yes, BDS is antisemitic. But we knew that already.

Here is the video, with as much context as I could put in:


BDS leader Omar Barghouti admits BDS targets Jews, not "Zionists" ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News



 

Frankfooter

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next on anti-Jewish terrorism files.....

Last week, a bunch of "anti-Zionists" got together for a webcast that next to nobody watched about the dangers of "normalization" with Israel.

One of the speakers was Omar Barghouti, who claims to be the founder of the BDS movement. He explains here what, exactly, BDS opposes when it says it opposes normalization with Israel, giving two conditions before anyone can meet with the "Israeli side." Paraphrasing, the Israeli side must oppose Israel's existence as a Jewish state, and the meeting itself must be an anti-Israel meeting.

Then at the very end of his description, Barghouti says, "Again, 'Israeli side' means Jewish Israelis or Jewish Israeli institutions as the case may be."

Meaning, that it is not "normalization" to meet with Israeli Arabs or Israeli Christians even if they are Zionist. The "crime" of normalization applies only to meeting Jews.

Yes, BDS is antisemitic. But we knew that already.

Here is the video, with as much context as I could put in:


BDS leader Omar Barghouti admits BDS targets Jews, not "Zionists" ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News



Elder of Ziyon?
That's a total wacko site, CM.
Buddy is a total supremacist filled with hate.

 

canada-man

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Elder of Ziyon?
That's a total wacko site, CM.
Buddy is a total supremacist filled with hate.



this from somebody who openly defends Hamas and terrorists




quoting the Palestinian Centre for Human Right who are linked to the PLPF terrorist organization







quoting btselem an anti-semitic website who was caught hiring holocaust deniers



racist towards me saying blacks cannot defend israel ignoeing the fact that over 180,000 black people reside in israel which includes 25,000
black americans. quoting jewish voice for peace that supports terrorism and was busted citing neo nazi and white supremacists websites





claiming that black persons cannot support Israel that have over 180,000 black people living there







justifying terrorists attacks against israeli and jewish civilians














supports the anti-jewish vandalizing of a business owned by a Jewish man and making excuses for it







promoting the ethnic cleansing of Jews from the region.







apologist for hamas the terror group






defending the PLFP terror group




refuses to condemn anti-jewish hate crimes commited by anti-jewish gangs







refuses to condemn the anti-semitic attacks on jewish shoppers at a supermaket in Thornhill, Ontario Canada.




franky continues to sink deeper and deeper into anti-jewish terrorism. franky defends a mapping project in Massacheusets
anti-jewish activists create a list of jewish organzations for anti-semitic purposes



more anti-black racism





supports and defend anti-semitic actions at the University of Wisconsin




franky butturt at the definition of anti-semitism because he is one





franky defends a terrorist that was killed in a shootout with the IDF





defends hamas claiming that it is islamophobic to call hamas terrrorists



defending an anti-semitic terror supporting rally




defending a terrorist attack against a security guard(security guards are civilians)



still refuses to condemn hamas





post anti-black racism to deflect rom his support for terrorists and anti-jewish hate crimes



justified the murder of a security guard



franky resorts to slander defending the Fatah organization who admitted that they are a terrorist organization




continue to lie and slander



still lying and slander





still defending hamas



franky saying the intafada(terrorism and against israelis and jews) is resistance



defending a voilent anti-semitic organization "Within our lifetime"




defending hamas again





defending Rabab Abdulhadi, a San Francisco State University associate professor with a history of expressing support for terrorist groups





defending PFLP Terrorist organization



defending the Fatah organization that recently called for terrorist attacks against Israel




Franky defending the terrorists that were killed after shooting at the IDF



Franky defending an anti-jewish hate crime vandalism




citing an anti-semitic, terrorist supporter Sana Saeed




defending terrorist organzation calling themselves the lions den





refusing to condemn anti-jewish hate crimes in New York



Justifying the murder of civilians

 

canada-man

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Really, if you're going to post from supremacist hate sites, you're going to get called out on it.
Are they any different from you, with your 'terrorist propaganda' crap about Amnesty and HRW reports?

franky the the biggest anti-jewish hatere here love to falsley accuse people of racists and white supremacists without showing evidence

i have tons of evidence of him supporting hate crimes against jews, and terrorists and terrorist organizations




quoting the Palestinian Centre for Human Right who are linked to the PLPF terrorist organization







quoting btselem an anti-semitic website who was caught hiring holocaust deniers



racist towards me saying blacks cannot defend israel ignoeing the fact that over 180,000 black people reside in israel which includes 25,000
black americans. quoting jewish voice for peace that supports terrorism and was busted citing neo nazi and white supremacists websites





claiming that black persons cannot support Israel that have over 180,000 black people living there







justifying terrorists attacks against israeli and jewish civilians














supports the anti-jewish vandalizing of a business owned by a Jewish man and making excuses for it







promoting the ethnic cleansing of Jews from the region.







apologist for hamas the terror group






defending the PLFP terror group




refuses to condemn anti-jewish hate crimes commited by anti-jewish gangs







refuses to condemn the anti-semitic attacks on jewish shoppers at a supermaket in Thornhill, Ontario Canada.




franky continues to sink deeper and deeper into anti-jewish terrorism. franky defends a mapping project in Massacheusets
anti-jewish activists create a list of jewish organzations for anti-semitic purposes



more anti-black racism





supports and defend anti-semitic actions at the University of Wisconsin




franky butturt at the definition of anti-semitism because he is one





franky defends a terrorist that was killed in a shootout with the IDF





defends hamas claiming that it is islamophobic to call hamas terrrorists



defending an anti-semitic terror supporting rally




defending a terrorist attack against a security guard(security guards are civilians)



still refuses to condemn hamas





post anti-black racism to deflect rom his support for terrorists and anti-jewish hate crimes



justified the murder of a security guard



franky resorts to slander defending the Fatah organization who admitted that they are a terrorist organization




continue to lie and slander



still lying and slander





still defending hamas



franky saying the intafada(terrorism and against israelis and jews) is resistance



defending a voilent anti-semitic organization "Within our lifetime"




defending hamas again





defending Rabab Abdulhadi, a San Francisco State University associate professor with a history of expressing support for terrorist groups





defending PFLP Terrorist organization



defending the Fatah organization that recently called for terrorist attacks against Israel




Franky defending the terrorists that were killed after shooting at the IDF



Franky defending an anti-jewish hate crime vandalism




citing an anti-semitic, terrorist supporter Sana Saeed




defending terrorist organzation calling themselves the lions den





refusing to condemn anti-jewish hate crimes in New York



Justifying the murder of civilians

 

Frankfooter

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franky the the biggest anti-jewish hatere here love to falsley accuse people of racists and white supremacists without showing evidence

i have tons of evidence of him supporting hate crimes against jews, and terrorists and terrorist organizations

OMG!

You're still pushing that bullshit list?
I looked at the first link and you seem to take offence that I dare quote from the Palestinian Centre for Human Rights, an NRO that only reports on human rights abuses.
All that does is make you look like your Elder of Zion dude, hateful and crazy.

You and your elder pal think Amnesty is terrorist propaganda.
You support apartheid, dude.
Get real.

What did you say?

constantly repeating yourself does not make it true
 

basketcase

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No, you don't, basketcase.

In 99/100 of Israeli attacks on Palestinians you blame Palestinians or label them 'terrorist' to justify those attacks.
From the Great March of Return on to the attacks in Huwara and Jenin, all you've done is justify Israeli targeting of civilians.

I support taking both sides to the ICC based on all reports on both sides by those same Amnesty, HRW and B'tselem.
You will never support holding both sides to the law equally, which clearly labels you as the one that is supporting targeting civilians.
If you describe Israeli attempts to arrest suspected terrorists as attacks...

And your both sides schtick is pretty pathetic considering you keep arguing that Amnesty's criticisms of Palestinian factions are wrong.
 

basketcase

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I support BDS, a non-violent use of divestment and sanctions to end Israeli apartheid.
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Funny because BDS doesn't promote any peace plan and you sure do a hell of a lot of justification for violence when you routinely describe Palestinian attacks on civilians as "self defence".
 

canada-man

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Islamic Jihad Terrorists Calls on Israeli Arabs to Start Another Intifada



i24 News – A spokesman for the military wing of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad terror group called on Israeli Arabs to start an intifada, an armed uprising.

Speaking after large-scale military drills were held in the northern Gaza Strip on Monday, Abu Hamza threatened that “the Islamic Jihad will cause the stupid enemy to be worn down by launching rockets in its direction, since the organization has many other means of warfare that will hurt the enemy.”


“We call on all the fighters among our people and the free people in the West Bank and in Israel to mobilize for this war, so that there will be an overall intifada that will create the basis for the end of our enemy and its expulsion from all of Palestine,” he said.

“We will turn the so-called Gaza envelope, including cities and the occupied colonies, into a place that cannot be lived in, and we will launch rockets to ever further ranges,” Hamza claimed.

Islamic Jihad Calls on Israeli Arabs to Start Another Intifada - Algemeiner.com Islamic Jihad Calls on Israeli Arabs to Start Another Intifada
 

Frankfooter

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If you describe Israeli attempts to arrest suspected terrorists as attacks...

And your both sides schtick is pretty pathetic considering you keep arguing that Amnesty's criticisms of Palestinian factions are wrong.
Yes, when the IDF kills 11 and injures 100 that is an attack, that's not a police mission, that's a raid.
That is the occupation forces killing the native population for resisting the illegal occupation.

3D analysis shows how Israeli troops fired into group of civilians
In an incident last month that left two Palestinians dead, troops shot at least 14 times in four seconds while civilians would have been visible.


End the occupation or end apartheid.
 
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