Covid-19 most likely came from a lab leak,,,,,,,,,duh

[Valcazar]

You're letting your hate for the man get in the way of common sense

That Trump claimed he has evidence is kind of a useless statement.
It might be true, it might not be - he's a bullshitter and you have no way of knowing.

At this point, I think even you admit he's constantly full of shit and you can't take him at his word for anything, so citing him in this discussion is just kind of pointless.

 

[Valcazar]

Good, I'm glad you agree with me that they have proof.

Do you just have lots of trouble with words?

Evidence is not proof.
That's just not how things work.

There's no other explanation for their intel to be classified

That makes no sense at all.
"They would only classify their information if it was proof?"

That's impressively stupid.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Evidence is not proof

Lmao

 

[Valcazar]

Lmao

I appreciate the brave face you are putting on your trouble with language.
That's very courageous.

 

[lomotil]

You're letting your hate for the man get in the way of common sense

Trump was well justified in questioning the Zoonotic theory and looking very closely at what was very likely a Lab leak.
Whatever Trump is or is not, right across the spectrum is ultra scant and nano—minuscule when compared to the egregious assault on mankind in terms of the colossal morbidity, mortality and economic carnage which has taken place and is still occurring wrought by this iatrogenic Pandemic.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

Good article about the situation, including a sense of what it would take to start moving a version of the lab leak theory into something more than a hypothetical.

There is no lab leak theory

It's still just vibes in search of a hypothesis

theracket.news

That’s a well written article that lays it out in a way I can understand.

Thx

 

[Valcazar]

Whatever Trump is or is not, right across the spectrum is ultra scant and nano—minuscule when compared to the egregious assault on mankind in terms of the colossal morbidity, mortality and economic carnage which has taken place and is still occurring wrought by this iatrogenic Pandemic.

That's there some fancy language, Tex.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

I appreciate the brave face you are putting on your trouble with language.
That's very courageous

You really nailed the stereotype. Common sense particle (need microscope to view)

 

[basketcase]

Thats not true. Trump claimed he had intel it was a lab leak.
How else would he have known??
...

Considering NONE of the intelligence agencies claim to have ANY intelligence from that time...


But if you believe everything Trump claims, I have some steaks to sell you.

 

[basketcase]

I think you are out over your skis. ...

Strange. You keep claiming to be looking for truth but obsessively claim that a small part of US intelligence knows better than the majority of US intelligence.

Sorry but despite your arguments having a veneer of intelligence, you clearly have decided long ago that it is a lab leak and simply dismiss anything that disagrees with that.

The CIA has made no statement, most likely because they don't see there being any conclusive evidence (and they are the leading source of foreign intel). You also suggest that the FBI shares their intel with other agencies. if so, how come the majority of agencies have looked at that data and have either concluded otherwise or made no conclusion?

 

[basketcase]

It's simple. The lab and the wet market are far enough apart in a major city that there would be different hospitals servicing the area around them.

This is an interesting article which also mentions internet traffic. The FBI (and the CIA) do not want to tip their hand on how much information they can collect and analyze from inside China.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/health/satellite-pics-coronavirus-spread/index.html

If I read correctly, you are arguing that the first outbreak was at the lab and the market outbreak was a later incident. Is there evidence for this?

And sorry but unless there was an abnormally large crowd at a hospital near the lab, I don't see what satellite photos would show as evidence (other than to suggest there is some bigfoot-like proof that no one can ever produce).

 

[basketcase]

I'm getting very close to putting this clown on ignore

I know it must suck to see all of your arguments ripped apart with science. I'm sure putting me on ignore will help your feelings of self worth.

 

[basketcase]

If you watched CNN and MSNBC there was always a great deal of effort put into contradicting Trump....

There as a great amount of effort to show that there was no evidence supporting his claims at that time.

 

[basketcase]

Good, I'm glad you agree with me that they have proof.

There's no other explanation for their intel to be classified

Other than them not wanting China or other adversaries to know what kinds of assets they have.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

I know it must suck to see all of your arguments ripped apart with science

Ahahahaha

 

[The Oracle]

''Time and time again disinformation watch dogs fail their own test''

Great breakdown of the lableak theory and how it was shot down by MSM, government and corporate interests.

 

[WyattEarp]

Strange. You keep claiming to be looking for truth but obsessively claim that a small part of US intelligence knows better than the majority of US intelligence.

The FBI is one of the two most important intelligence agencies. The CIA is the other one and they are silent. I'm not sure if you are arguing that they are not important or that all U.S. intelligence agencies have equal status. Following your kitchen sink style of debate, you seem to be arguing both simultaneously. Of course, both arguments would be wrong. I think we all know that the FBI is important. As far as all U.S. intelligence agencies being equal, we know that defies reasonable thought.

The 4 agencies vs. 1 or 4 agencies vs. 2 are interesting numbers. However, these things aren't decided by polling agencies. At a minimum, we should not believe the wet market theory as the definitive answer. Everyone's confidence in a definitive answer should be much lower. I'm not hearing that from you.

Sorry but despite your arguments having a veneer of intelligence, you clearly have decided long ago that it is a lab leak and simply dismiss anything that disagrees with that.

No, I'm simply pointing out that in 2020 the intelligence agencies and cooperative media partners didn't represent the information they had in hand accurately. I suppose if you are trying prove somehow that there is or was evidence to support the wet market theory, then I am trying to support the lab leak theory to diminish your argument. You are here still arguing for the wet market theory with all your gusto.

The CIA has made no statement, most likely because they don't see there being any conclusive evidence (and they are the leading source of foreign intel). You also suggest that the FBI shares their intel with other agencies. if so, how come the majority of agencies have looked at that data and have either concluded otherwise or made no conclusion?

One, the agencies more than likely don't get the same information in the same timeline. Two, the agencies might not be motivated to revise their initial prognosis from a few years ago. You still seem stuck on this four agencies versus two agencies thinking that has been raised. I don't find counting agencies provides a definitive answer.

 

[WyattEarp]

''Time and time again disinformation watch dogs fail their own test''

Great breakdown of the lableak theory and how it was shot down by MSM, government and corporate interests.

As the female news anchor said in the video: "We actually don't have different outlets covering the same kind of news...............
What you believe becomes completely determined by the news channels you watch."

Interestingly, The Hill pisses off conservatives and liberal alike. I don't seem to be able to identify a political bias across the outlet.

 

[The Oracle]

As the female news anchor said in the video: "We actually don't have different outlets covering the same kind of news...............
What you believe becomes completely determined by the news channels you watch."

Interestingly, The Hill pisses off conservatives and liberal alike. I don't seem to be able to identify a political bias across the outlet.

I was a little miffed when Kim Iverson left I have to admit.

 

[Valcazar]

You really nailed the stereotype. Common sense particle (need microscope to view)

Aww...
You found a meme!
Good job!