It seemed like he lied so often or said misleading things, it got to the point where anything he said was deemed to be untrue or opposite of what were the actual facts.
Covid-19 most likely came from a lab leak,,,,,,,,,duh
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This is mid 2020 and that pre-print doesn't seem to exist anymore. (I don't know if that means it got published or if it got withdrawn.)
The study itself shows a bunch of hospitals around Wuhan showed increased activity.
Some are near the lab, some are near the market. (It seems more hopsitals in general are near the lab because that's the university/research section and since they only looked at the major hospitals, there are more there.)
So again -- this isn't very convincing of much. If anything it was an argument 3 years ago that maybe COVID started earlier than people thought. I haven't seen that still argued much, so that doesn't seem to have borne out. Other than that, it just shows that more cars were in the hospitals, and doesn't narrow it down to the WIV lab (which would contradict the new DOE theory anyway, since they are arguing for a different lab).
But sure - more detailed work like this with good numbers and something more solid showing a cluster at the nearest hospital to the lab would be suggestive.
Any beliefs could constitute an ideology. An ideologue is something different.
noun
noun: ideologue; plural noun: ideologues
- an adherent of an ideology, especially one who is uncompromising and dogmatic.
"he doesn't consider himself a political ideologue, preferring to arrive at conclusions pragmatically"
If you watched CNN and MSNBC there was always a great deal of effort put into contradicting Trump. I agree he said stupid things, but I felt the liberal media was uncooperative and misrepresenting certain things to score points against him. It was very unproductive.
If you read some of the things right here in this thread including some of the things posted by liberal members, it's a good discussion. I think most of these things could have been discussed in 2020, but I don't think the liberal media was interested in that discussion.
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You're playing Clarence Darrow. I don't have the answers or evidence in my possession. I thought it was established here that we will never know for sure.
I'm just saying satellite photos might help intelligence agencies. That along with internet traffic, informants and whatever information our intelligence agencies have access to in China. I think satellite imagery over Wuhan is intriguing.
I basically posted this article about satellite imagery in response to your comment below.
I tend to watch multiple sources before forming an opinion.
I don't watch CNN much, their news seems to be opinion oriented, not giving the news as it is.
Fox is similar but tends to be on the extreme conspiracy side.
Both are headline news in that they can be talking about the same story but change the headline to suit their view on the matter.
For example the twitter clip that I believe is 12 or 19 seconds where Zelensky states that Americas sons and daughters would be fighting a war for Ukraine and potentially die.
If you didn't watch the whole interview it would seem like he is calling for the US to intervene with boots on the ground in the near future when in actual fact he is stating that supplying arms to Ukrine now stops Russia in Ukraine and keeps Russia out of NATO countries where article 6 would be invoked causing this to happen.
Late night TV was never kind to any politician but then again they are there to get ratings and cheap shots, Seth Myers plays the video of Biden falling up the stairs three times while boarding his plane many times per show.
That is what DR Fauci said.
https://nypost.com/2023/02/28/fauci-says-we-may-never-know-origin-of-covid-despite-report/
I posted the NYPost link because the original Boston Globe interview article is subsription only.
That's what I said. The definition ranges from "a believer in an ideology" to "one who is uncompromising and dogmatic".
We don't have a word to distinguish the two that is in common use.
You want to use it primarily in the "dogmatic" mode.
That's fine.
I don't use it that way because I find it shuts down people's willingness to admit that they have an ideology.
If you don't believe the satellite paper, why bring it up?
You can speculate wildly about whatever evidence they might have to your heart's content.
I pointed out that satellite imagery probably wouldn't tell you much.
You responded with a paper of satellite imagery that didn't tell us much.
Which wasn't any kind of statement that the FBI was using this evidence and it played into their conclusion.
Just that people have looked at satellite imagery of Wuhan.
If you are just guessing that the FBI has drawn inference from satellite data, then fine.
People are guessing they drew inference from witnesses.
Neither of which has been commented on by the FBI as true so there isn't any reason to spend much effort making up what they might have shown.
Good article about the situation, including a sense of what it would take to start moving a version of the lab leak theory into something more than a hypothetical.
You're letting your hate for the man get in the way of common sense
Good, I'm glad you agree with me that they have proof.
There's no other explanation for their intel to be classified
That Trump claimed he has evidence is kind of a useless statement.
It might be true, it might not be - he's a bullshitter and you have no way of knowing.
At this point, I think even you admit he's constantly full of shit and you can't take him at his word for anything, so citing him in this discussion is just kind of pointless.
Do you just have lots of trouble with words?
Evidence is not proof.
That's just not how things work.
That makes no sense at all.
"They would only classify their information if it was proof?"
That's impressively stupid.
I appreciate the brave face you are putting on your trouble with language.Lmao
That's very courageous.
Trump was well justified in questioning the Zoonotic theory and looking very closely at what was very likely a Lab leak.
Whatever Trump is or is not, right across the spectrum is ultra scant and nano—minuscule when compared to the egregious assault on mankind in terms of the colossal morbidity, mortality and economic carnage which has taken place and is still occurring wrought by this iatrogenic Pandemic.
That’s a well written article that lays it out in a way I can understand.Good article about the situation, including a sense of what it would take to start moving a version of the lab leak theory into something more than a hypothetical.
Thx
