Right-wing parties are selling out across Europe, too

JohnLarue

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You will never understand shit.
if you mean I will never understand the shit the left dreams up , yeah it is illogical and unachievable

People are tired to put in hard work so 12 people can buy their yacht and 3rd house mansions...
If you resent the rewards your companies owners make for assuming the financial and operation risks of running the business, you can always seek employment elsewhere

America was great when a regular worker could buy a house for his family, send kids to university and provide a good quality life on a single house hold salary. Simple.
too funny
You might want to look at what has driven the changes since your simple utopian times 1950 & 1960s
  1. more women have entered into workforce. Double income families increased demand for bigger homes & bid up the housing prices
  2. Left leaning municipal govts applied more and more restrictions on housing development, constricting supply
  3. Technological advancements made some employees hyper productive relative to your masses
  4. Technological advancements also produces all kinds of innovations and consumer goods that make life better. Not every 12 year old needed his/her own phone in the 1960s
  5. a rotation from manufacturing to more service oriented economies required a new set of skills
while you ponder those drivers think about this
Capitalism and access to affordable reliable energy have reduced the share of people living in abject poverty like no other time in human history
you do not want to reverse this amazing trend by introducing socialism or intentionally making energy more expensive & unreliable

 
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richaceg

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How about refugees fleeing the violence and persecution to seek asylum?
sure...they're welcome...still has to go through a process...nothing says, refugees just walks into a country and start working under the table...
 

bver_hunter

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sure...they're welcome...still has to go through a process...nothing says, refugees just walks into a country and start working under the table...
How is shipping them out of State supposed to help the "process" to litigate their refugee status? Normally, refugees that are fleeing just happen to have a case of their person stuff and a few bucks in their pockets. How are they supposed to survive if they cannot start earning to put some food on the table?
 

richaceg

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How is shipping them out of State supposed to help the "process" to litigate their refugee status? Normally, refugees that are fleeing just happen to have a case of their person stuff and a few bucks in their pockets. How are they supposed to survive if they cannot start earning to put some food on the table?
You do know the gov't provide board and lodging right? You really think illegals should just waltz into a country and start working under the table?you don't have any idea what that does to a country...there are millions of immigrant applications right now to go into Canada...why even apply to be an immigrant...
 

bver_hunter

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You do know the gov't provide board and lodging right? You really think illegals should just waltz into a country and start working under the table?you don't have any idea what that does to a country...there are millions of immigrant applications right now to go into Canada...why even apply to be an immigrant...
You do realize that you are confusing "illegal migrants" from "refugees"? Tell me this, if there are Ukrainian citizens fleeing from Russian held territory, should the neighbouring states like Poland then treat them like Illegals and ship them in the manner that De Santis did? We know that when the Syrians were seeking asylum from the brutal wars in Syria, they were then treated like a bunch of animals. Much more humanitarian assistance was provided to the Ukrainians. So why should those families with babies and children who were in danger and had to run for their lives in countries like Venezuela, now be considered to be treated like criminals? You have to comprehend that "immigrant visas" is for residents generally from nations like the UK and India where their lives are not in imminent danger!!
 

richaceg

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You do realize that you are confusing "illegal migrants" from "refugees"? Tell me this, if there are Ukrainian citizens fleeing from Russian held territory, should the neighbouring states like Poland then treat them like Illegals and ship them in the manner that De Santis did? We know that when the Syrians were seeking asylum from the brutal wars in Syria, they were then treated like a bunch of animals. Much more humanitarian assistance was provided to the Ukrainians. So why should those families with babies and children who were in danger and had to run for their lives in countries like Venezuela, now be considered to be treated like criminals? You have to comprehend that "immigrant visas" is for residents generally from nations like the UK and India where their lives are not in imminent danger!!
You have a hard time understanding that even refugees need to undergo the process...you don't just let them waltz in and integrate some of them are not real refugees...Do you let any stranger into your house asking for help?
 

bver_hunter

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You have a hard time understanding that even refugees need to undergo the process...you don't just let them waltz in and integrate some of them are not real refugees...Do you let any stranger into your house asking for help?
You have a hard time comprehending that still over 70,000 immigrants were deported in 2021 under the Biden Administration. These were not the real refugees, but those with a criminal past etc. Maybe you will see a helpless Mother with a child stranded outside your house and will let them rot there.

I have actually taken a refugee family into my basement for two months without any rent. They were getting Government grants and once they found their feet and left for an apartment rental they were ever so grateful. To this day they constantly invite me to their apartment and I get a lot of hugs from them. They were a Christian family that fled from Syria. Okay?
 

richaceg

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Maybe you will see a helpless Mother with a child stranded outside your house and will let them rot there.
It doesn't happen...stop over reacting...like I said, there are programs that help refugees...they just need to go through the process...
 

bver_hunter

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It doesn't happen...stop over reacting...like I said, there are programs that help refugees...they just need to go through the process...
What do you think is occurring at the moment when these refugees have arrived in the USA? You are the one who has overreacted in the first place as if their presence is affecting you!!
What is your problem when their refugee status application is ongoing and if they do not qualify, then they face deportation from the USA?
 

richaceg

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What do you think is occurring at the moment when these refugees have arrived in the USA? You are the one who has overreacted in the first place as if their presence is affecting you!!
What is your problem when their refugee status application is ongoing and if they do not qualify, then they face deportation from the USA?
what makes them not qualify? does it affect you if they don't qualify? there has to be a reason they don't qualify...
 

Valcazar

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What do you think qualifies someone as a refugee, richaceg?
 

richaceg

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Sure there has to be a reason that they do not qualify. So what is your problem then?
I have no problem you do...you feel like every person that claims they are refugees should just walk in without going through the process...
 

jcpro

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I have no problem you do...you feel like every person that claims they are refugees should just walk in without going through the process...
That's what we do in Canada, oh wait, we don't.
 

Frankfooter

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I have no problem you do...you feel like every person that claims they are refugees should just walk in without going through the process...
So nobody has a problem with the process for legal immigrants?
Like those who were shipped to MV?
 

bver_hunter

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I have no problem you do...you feel like every person that claims they are refugees should just walk in without going through the process...
See you are now making some blatantly false allegations as to what I stated. Show me where I stated so? If they are genuine refugees then they should be allowed to apply for that status.
Otherwise, why will there be this many arrests at the border:

 

wigglee

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The spread of the conservative parties is the direct result of the lefties failing to take care of the bread and butter issues.
typical con..... blaming the left for the fact that they are undemocratic, racist arseholes...LOL
 

jcpro

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typical con..... blaming the left for the fact that they are undemocratic, racist arseholes...LOL
typical lefty...not seeing his own failures.
 
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