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How Europe is turning Right-wing

Shaquille Oatmeal

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How would Canada under PP actually have supported MAGA U.S. or
MAGA Alberta/Canada in real term? Looks to me Carney has got along
well with MAGA Trump and is well respected in MAGA Alberta as well.
I said maple MAGA and pointed out to Diagolon which is a Canadian far right Nazi group.
Why do you think "getting along with Alberta" is a conservative thing?
The PM is the PM of the whole of Canada.
 

jalimon

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Muslims don't all behave the same way.
There are certainly people of other religions who don't accept any other religion or non-religious people either.
I know. But not to the level of the Muslim world.

They settled in quietly. They integrate quite well, but not fully. Then they built their Mosque. Then the leaders of those mosques take the lead.

Look at Europe. They are turning right, not because they are right-wing but because they feel they lost control over their Muslim invasions.
 

Frankfooter

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I gave up on this.

Muslims will all end up sticking to their religion above everything.

It does not mean they are terrorists or anything like that.

It simply means the Muslim religion does not accept any other religion or non-religious people.
Second generation Muslims are almost all pretty Canadian in value, not very religious but sometimes observe some practices.
None I know pray 5 times a day.
People are people, over time in a more moderate environment they become more moderate.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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They settled in quietly. They integrate quite well, but not fully. Then they built their Mosque.
A liberal western democracy such as ours is designed to allow precisely that. Pluralism.
The only thing one is required to actually integrate into are Canadian laws which the vast majority of them do.
 

Hephaestus

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I know. But not to the level of the Muslim world.

They settled in quietly. They integrate quite well, but not fully. Then they built their Mosque. Then the leaders of those mosques take the lead.

Look at Europe. They are turning right, not because they are right-wing but because they feel they lost control over their Muslim invasions.
They're normally Centrists in Europe, they're turning right because they see whats happening in their countries with a bunch of migrants that don't want to integrate but want to be accommodated for their religion and cultural style. They block streets because the want to pray. But they have thousands of Mosques in Europe, they just want to stick it and dominate.
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Frankfooter

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They're normally Centrists in Europe, they're turning right because they see whats happening in their countries with a bunch of migrants that don't want to integrate but want to be accommodated for their religion and cultural style. They block streets because the want to pray. But they have thousands of Mosques in Europe, they just want to stick it and dominate.
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Ice Maker

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There is one common denominator to this right-wing worldwide turn.

Muslim

They do not want to adapt their religion to any part of the world they move to because their religion tells them not to.
It's weird how the progressive left types in the west bend over backwards for, and kowtow to islamist arrivals in their country. Yet the complete opposite would happen if the same progressive lefties went to the countries they came from- where "progressiveness" is strictly not tolerated due to the teachings of islam and sharia law.

This is what happened in Hamtramck City Michigan where city council is now majority muslim...

 

K Douglas

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I believe that most Muslims are good people. They work hard, are law abiding, family oriented and faithful. They don't want to change our way of life or legal systems they have the same aspirations as anyone. But there are a strong minority of Muslims who are fervent, intolerant, want to implement Sharia law and are willing to sacrifice themselves for that goal. They refuse to assimilate. They support a culture of grievance and victimhood. And its western neo-liberal ideology that feeds into that. They treat Muslims as if they are an oppressed group that is unfairly targeted. You can't criticize the community or the religion or else you're deemed an 'Islamophobe'. They change laws to kowtow to them. Designated prayer rooms in public spaces would be an example of that. You would think that the way that they talk that Muslims are the biggest target of hate, which could be farther from the truth. Look at 2024 hate crimes in the City of Toronto.

Anti Jewish 177 occurrences 40%
Anti LGBTQ 79 occurrences 18%
Anti black 76 occurrences 17%
Anti Muslim 28 occurrences 6%
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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I believe that most Muslims are good people. They work hard, are law abiding, family oriented and faithful. They don't want to change our way of life or legal systems they have the same aspirations as anyone.
Good. Then you should also agree that much of the panic, stereotyping, and suspicion directed at Muslims is driven by far right rhetoric rather than evidence.
But there are a strong minority of Muslims who are fervent, intolerant, want to implement Sharia law .....
The same can be said of a minority of Caucasians who are fervent racists, intolerant, and openly advocate authoritarian or fascist policies, including “remigration,” even at the expense of democratic principles.
Yet no one argues that this minority defines Caucasians as a group.
They treat Muslims as if they are an oppressed group that is unfairly targeted.
Muslims are stigmatized as a group and disproportionately targeted because of this exact kind of framing.
Your post shifts from acknowledging Muslims as ordinary people to reinforcing group level suspicion within two sentences.
You may want to think this through more carefully, as the reasoning isn’t coherent.
 
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nottyboi

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So now "right wing" is anyone that does not want to go to war with Russia or waste money on a war that, even if it was won, would result in the destruction of Europe at the very least? THAT is now "right wing" lol
 

Phil C. McNasty

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So now "right wing" is anyone that does not want to go to war with Russia or waste money on a war that, even if it was won, would result in the destruction of Europe at the very least? THAT is now "right wing" lol
And left-wing is now who all of the sudden do want war. THAT is now "left-wing" lol
 
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