Emma Watson accused of antisemitism over pro-Palestinian Instagram post

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Yet the polls also say ...

I love the way you keep running away from your claims because you know they are morally inconsistent and completely indefensible. You continually make excuses, minimize, and deny the actions of groups like Hamas who not only are a terrorist group but also extremely repressive to the people of Gaza.

Palestinians don't support your idea of being annexed by Israel and becoming Israeli citizens and as the Canadian government has stated, the BDS movement is counterproductive, often a front for anti-semitism and people who are more motivated with eliminating the Jewish presence than they are with human rights.

 

[basketcase]

And I see you have no response to the fact that Israel recognizes and is slowly acting on Jewish terrorism while Hamas and the PA still celebrate and fund Palestinian terrorists.

 

[Frankfooter]

And I see you have no response to the fact that Israel recognizes and is slowly acting on Jewish terrorism while Hamas and the PA still celebrate and fund Palestinian terrorists.

Israel sponsors terrorism by defending settler terrorism militarily with the IDF.
As B'tselem reported, this form of state sponsored terrorism happened 450 times in the last 2 years.
Way more attacks than Hamas.

If you are against terrorism, you should be protesting the largest source of terrorism in Israel/Palestine.
Settlers.

Settlers attack Palestinians. The Israeli army punishes the Palestinians. Repeat

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www.haaretz.com

 

[Frankfooter]

I love the way you keep running away from your claims because you know they are morally inconsistent and completely indefensible. You continually make excuses, minimize, and deny the actions of groups like Hamas who not only are a terrorist group but also extremely repressive to the people of Gaza.

Palestinians don't support your idea of being annexed by Israel and becoming Israeli citizens and as the Canadian government has stated, the BDS movement is counterproductive, often a front for anti-semitism and people who are more motivated with eliminating the Jewish presence than they are with human rights.

See, in every post you must mention both 'Hamas' and 'terrorism'.
Its your only play.

You defend way worse acts than those committed by Hamas.
You defend apartheid.
You defend settler coloniailsm.

Only boycotts can end apartheid and the occupation now.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1483974811168747520

 

[Azria]

That's considered anti-semitism?

Sorry, I don't agree. If you keep labeling everyone who dares to criticize Israel an "anti-semite" the word becomes meaningless. (Law of diminishing returns.) End of the day, Israel is not above criticism.

Same with the word "racist". Labelling everyone a racist seems to be the big things these days. Only thing is the word no longer has meaning.

Besides, Palestinians are Semites.

As to Emma Watson, it's a free world, she has the right of free speech. Good for her. (Same with JK Rowling. Good for her too. (Though Emma would disagree with that it seems.))

agreed! It’s very difficult nowadays to state your opinion without being boxed in as anti-something else. We are so PC nowadays it’s best to say nothing at all for fear of retribution and career ending responses. Yikes.

 

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agreed! It’s very difficult nowadays to state your opinion without being boxed in as anti-something else. We are so PC nowadays it’s best to say nothing at all for fear of retribution and career ending responses. Yikes.

Agreed, hopefully though as more people like Watson try to discuss the issue openly we'll get less of this type of response.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/u-of-t-censure-university-of-toronto-azarova-1.6179705

 

[basketcase]

Israel sponsors terrorism by defending settler terrorism militarily with the IDF.
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And more of your justifications for attacks on Jewish civilians.

I see Israel committing some actions against Jewish terrorists. The only people who act against Palestinian terrorists is Israel and you condemn them for it while saying nothing about the PA paying them salaries for getting caught and Hamas is openly terrorist and praising attacks on civilians.

 

[basketcase]

See, in every post you must mention both 'Hamas' and 'terrorism'.
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And still you need to put the word terrorism in quotes when discussing perpetrators on the Palestinian side and suggesting it's racist to mention it while you freely use the same term to describe everything about Israel. Just another of your classic double standard.

 

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And still you need to put the word terrorism in quotes when discussing perpetrators on the Palestinian side and suggesting it's racist to mention it while you freely use the same term to describe everything about Israel. Just another of your classic double standard.

I try to put quotes in every time I use the word 'terrorism', but occasionally forget.
Because its a political accusation that you use to demonize one race.
Its clearly not because of the acts or you'd be calling out the side that committed 450 acts of mostly state backed 'terrorism' over the last two years.

Israel troops ‘watched, joined settler attacks’ on Palestinians

Israeli forces are not intervening to stop the attacks in most cases, and often actively join in, B’Tselem says.

www.aljazeera.com

Care to explain why you only talk about a handful of cases that only come from one race/religion while ignoring most of the acts of 'terrorism'?

 

[Frankfooter]

And more of your justifications for attacks on Jewish civilians.

You've also said that settler attacks are 'terrorism'.
Which means you also are justifying attacks on civilians, by your terms.
And so are B'tselelem.

Israel troops ‘watched, joined settler attacks’ on Palestinians

Israeli forces are not intervening to stop the attacks in most cases, and often actively join in, B’Tselem says.

www.aljazeera.com

And so are you through your constant accusations of 'terrorism' that you conflate with Palestinian civilians.

And of course, Israel also says Defence for Children International are 'terrorists', so I'm sure that means they are justifying attacks on international human rights organizations.
That line of arguments is such a win for you.

Just stop backing apartheid.
Start backing basic human rights and the end of racism for a change.

 

[y2kmark]

Emma has now switched from instagram to magic gallions, case closed...

 

[basketcase]

I try to put quotes in every time I use the word 'terrorism', but occasionally forget.
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You forget every time you accuse Israel of terrorism.

p.s. Only one of us admits there is terrorism on both sides. I just admit that the fringe militant settler terrorists are a much smaller and much more manageable group that the well armed Hamas, PIJ, PFLP, or the armed wing of fatah.

 

[basketcase]

You've also said that settler attacks are 'terrorism'.
Which means you also are justifying attacks on civilians, by your terms.
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WTF?

I call attacks by militants settlers terrorism and you somehow try to pretend that is justifying?

You on the other hand keep trying to claim that all Jewish settlers aren't civilians because some small number of them are terrorists while also constantly claiming Israel arresting or shooting terrorists is unacceptable because they are civilians. More of your classic double-standard.

And sorry but those rights groups you like to quote are 100% clear that attacks on Jewish civilians in the West Bank have zero legitimate justification, just as they say Hamas rockets have none.

 

[Frankfooter]

You forget every time you accuse Israel of terrorism.

p.s. Only one of us admits there is terrorism on both sides. I just admit that the fringe militant settler terrorists are a much smaller and much more manageable group that the well armed Hamas, PIJ, PFLP, or the armed wing of fatah.

Terrorism, terrorism, terrorism.
Its a one track pony, but hey, you're defending apartheid so you need to dehumanize those Palestinians some how.

By the way, there was a story with an excellent shot of Palestinian terrorism in action.
Here's one of the terrorists at the Union of Agricultural Work Committee committing that terrorism they do all the time there.
(Is that better without the quotes?)

They are one of the 6 groups Israel recently labelled as terrorists.

Saving seeds, counting cows: work of a "terror" group?

Union of Agricultural Work Committees provides vital support to Gaza's farmers.

electronicintifada.net

 

[Frankfooter]

WTF?

I call attacks by militants settlers terrorism and you somehow try to pretend that is justifying?

I said the same thing and you claimed I was calling those 'terrorist' settlers 'civilians' and justifying attacks on civilians.
Every time I say bring up the report by B'tselem that says there were 450 state backed acts of 'terrorism' by settlers you say that they are either 'random Jews' or 'civilians'.

So are they civilians or not?

WATCH: Settler convoy parades through Palestinian town, celebrating attacker’s release by stoning cars and stores

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www.timesofisrael.com

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1484535764801232909

 

[basketcase]

Terrorism, terrorism, terrorism.
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Pathetic that instead of admitting there is a small number of Palestinians and a small number of Jews that commit terrorism, you freely spew nonsense about all settlers being terrorists and say it's racist of me to mention that Hamas are terrorists.

But sure, "both sides".

 

[basketcase]

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So are they civilians or not?
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No sane person would claim all Palestinians are legitimate targets because some Palestinians commit terrorism but here you are claiming all Jews in the West Bank are terrorists, flying completely in the face of the rights groups you pretend to support.

You even go so far as to pretend it's a war crime when Israel arrests a Palestinian in the act of an attack and claim Israel shouldn't jail convicted terrorists (who get celebrated by Hamas and paid by the PA).

 

[Frankfooter]

there is a small number of Palestinians and a small number of Jews that commit terrorism

So why won't you support both sides being held to the law by the ICC?

But sure, "both sides".

Prove it by calling for both sides to be investigated by the ICC equally.

Prove you are support equality by calling for the end of apartheid.

 

[Frankfooter]

No sane person would claim all Palestinians are legitimate targets because some Palestinians commit terrorism but here you are claiming all Jews in the West Bank are terrorists, flying completely in the face of the rights groups you pretend to support.

You even go so far as to pretend it's a war crime when Israel arrests a Palestinian in the act of an attack and claim Israel shouldn't jail convicted terrorists (who get celebrated by Hamas and paid by the PA).

So prove you don't say all Palestinians are legitimate targets by supporting a call for investigations into the bombings in Gaza last summer.
Prove that you don't support targeting civilian infrastructure like hospitals, schools and apartment buildings.
Prove that you don't support targeting civilians when they are Palestinians.

Support Amnesty in their call for investigations.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/mde150542006en.pdf

 

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Israel sponsors terrorism by defending settler terrorism militarily with the IDF.
As B'tselem reported, this form of state sponsored terrorism happened 450 times in the last 2 years.
Way more attacks than Hamas.

If you are against terrorism, you should be protesting the largest source of terrorism in Israel/Palestine.
Settlers.

Settlers attack Palestinians. The Israeli army punishes the Palestinians. Repeat

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www.haaretz.com

You're constantly sourcing Haaretz left wing propaganda newspaper and B'tselem - pseudo human right organization filled with Jewish anti-semites (yes there is such a thing)