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Emma Watson accused of antisemitism over pro-Palestinian Instagram post

Insidious Von

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Emma Watson's career is in the pitts, she's not very smart.

She drank the Disney Kool Aid and took the money. She figured it would further her career, it hasn't, she's been unemployed for over two years.
 
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Emma Watson's career is in the pitts, she's not very smart.

She drank the Disney Kool Aid and took the money. She figured it would further her career, it hasn't, she's been unemployed for over two years.
She is a multimillionaire who can pick and choose. She done some indy stuff and I would imagine chose to take time off during Covid.

And I was just reading Rupert Grint has amassed about 40 million cdn in real estate.

Dumb is losing it all. These actors are set for life. And can chose to work.
 
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I watched the "Return to Hogwarts" special on Crave. Emma Watson is an emotional wreck, despite her wealth and success. No one could predict what might come out of her mouth, including her. Not sure if this is an effect of growing up as child actor of such fame who spent so much of her teenage years on movie sets, red carpets, photo shoots and in interviews. Her best course is to spend some time away from the industry and pull herself together. Our best course is to ignore everything she says in the meantime.
 

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She is a multimillionaire who can pick and choose. She done some indy stuff and I would imagine chose to take time off during Covid.

And I was just reading Rupert Grint has amassed about 40 million cdn in real estate.

Dumb is losing it all. These actors are set for life. And can chose to work.
Dumb is not realizing that her views are like those who opposed apartheid in the 80's and that its not a minority view.
Support for apartheid is a generational thing, its really mostly those who are really old now.

What its also doing is making calls of antisemitism over criticism of Israeli policy into a public debate.
MSNBC host and former CNN journalist Ayman Mohyeldin was another who commented.
"No joke, we are at the point where merely posting a vague picture referencing solidarity with Palestinians on Instagram gets you labeled as an antisemite," he tweeted.
 

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I didn't know she was having such a rough time, being a child actor is tough.

The one who came out of the Harry Potter franchise best is Daniel Radcliffe. His mother is an accountant, she arranged for a profit sharing deal with the producers similar to what Viggo Mortensen got for LOTR. Since then he's made the films he wants to make. Swiss Army Man was farkin hilarious.

 
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I didn't know she was having such a rough time, being a child actor is tough.

The one who came out of the Harry Potter franchise best is Daniel Radcliffe. His mother is an accountant, she arranged for a profit sharing deal with the producers similar to what Viggo Mortensen got for LOTR. Since then he's made the films he wants to make. Swiss Army Man was farkin hilarious.
She's been working lots since.
 

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That's considered anti-semitism?

Sorry, I don't agree. If you keep labeling everyone who dares to criticize Israel an "anti-semite" the word becomes meaningless. (Law of diminishing returns.) End of the day, Israel is not above criticism.

Same with the word "racist". Labelling everyone a racist seems to be the big things these days. Only thing is the word no longer has meaning.

Besides, Palestinians are Semites.

As to Emma Watson, it's a free world, she has the right of free speech. Good for her. (Same with JK Rowling. Good for her too. (Though Emma would disagree with that it seems.))
 

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That's considered anti-semitism?

Sorry, I don't agree. If you keep labeling everyone who dares to criticize Israel an "anti-semite" the word becomes meaningless. (Law of diminishing returns.) End of the day, Israel is not above criticism.

Same with the word "racist". Labelling everyone a racist seems to be the big things these days. Only thing is the word no longer has meaning.

Besides, Palestinians are Semites.

As to Emma Watson, it's a free world, she has the right of free speech. Good for her. (Same with JK Rowling. Good for her too. (Though Emma would disagree with that it seems.))
I don't necessarily disagree, BUT it's also a well known fact that all ant-semites(let's not kid ourselves what that term denotes) have migrated to the "criticize " Israel side.
 

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Many Israelis and Jews around the world are critical of how the country is treating Palestinians.
It’s not antisemetic to disagree with Israeli policy.
EXACTLY! You took the words right out of my mouth. If disagreeing with Israeli government policy is anti-Semitic, then almost every opposition member of the Knesset would be an anti-Semite.
 

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I don't necessarily disagree, BUT it's also a well known fact that all ant-semites(let's not kid ourselves what that term denotes) have migrated to the "criticize " Israel side.
What palpable nonsense. Anti-semites do not have to migrate anywhere in order to criticize. They are already there. Demonization of the Jew and hatred of Judaism have been ingrained in certain aspects of Christendom and disseminated thoughout European history of the past two millienia. They were antecedents to the modern state of Israel. And in the mysterious ways that history unfolds, they also became instrumental in the founding of the state.
It is a perfectly legitimate moral and intellectual endeavour to pinpoint Zionist cruelties and excesses especially as adumbrated in the shambolic laws and policies of the state. To call such critics "antisemites" is, with apologies to Samuel Johnson, the last refuge of the scoundrel. When all other arguments have failed your powers of suasion, lobbing the "antisemite" grenade is all that is left.
It used to work in shutting up the debate. But no more.
I have hope in our youth whose grasp of history is much more grounded than their elders'.
 
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Many Israelis and Jews around the world are critical of how the country is treating Palestinians.
It’s not antisemetic to disagree with Israeli policy.
It is when you single out Israel over and above many countries that have horrible human rights and policies towards women and minorities.
 
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It is when you single out Israel over and above many countries that have horrible human rights and policies towards women and minorities.
I agree that it would be unfair to single out Israel over all other apartheid countries with 50 year long occupations.
 
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What palpable nonsense. Anti-semites do not have to migrate anywhere in order to criticize. They are already there. Demonization of the Jew and hatred of Judaism have been ingrained in certain aspects of Christendom and disseminated thoughout European history of the past two millienia. They were antecedents to the modern state of Israel. And in the mysterious ways that history unfolds, they also became instrumental in the founding of the state.
It is a perfectly legitimate moral and intellectual endeavour to pinpoint Zionist cruelties and excesses especially as adumbrated in the shambolic laws and policies of the state. To call such critics "antisemites" is, with apologies to Samuel Johnson, the last refuge of the scoundrel. When all other arguments have failed your powers of suasion, lobbing the "antisemite" grenade is all that is left.
It used to work in shutting up the debate. But no more.
I have hope in our youth whose grasp of history is much more grounded than their elders'.
ROTFLMFAO!! Where can you exercise open Jew hatred in the free world, do tell? That is why ALL the Jew haters(anti semites) are on the side of those who condemn Israel- right or wrong. What is a "Zionist cruelty "? Is it different from. Israeli cruelty? Or Jewish cruelty? Nobody, not even I, think Israel to be perfect. But, I do know where all the antisemitism come from and where they congregate.
 

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I agree that it would be unfair to single out Israel over all other apartheid countries with 50 year long occupations.
Israel isn't apartheid...if you haven't been to the middle east, you should shut your mouth about apartheid....you obviously don't know what it means....
 
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It’s not antisemetic to disagree with Israeli policy.
Absolutely not. There are a lot of people who use it a tool to express their antisemitism though.

This is Canada's definition of anti-semitism. From that single post, I don't see Watson's post as anti-Semitic.



“Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.”



To guide IHRA in its work, the following examples may serve as illustrations:

Manifestations might include the targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity. However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic. Antisemitism frequently charges Jews with conspiring to harm humanity, and it is often used to blame Jews for “why things go wrong.” It is expressed in speech, writing, visual forms and action, and employs sinister stereotypes and negative character traits.

Contemporary examples of antisemitism in public life, the media, schools, the workplace, and in the religious sphere could, taking into account the overall context, include, but are not limited to:

  • Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.
  • Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
  • Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.
  • Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).
  • Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.
  • Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
  • Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
  • Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
  • Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
  • Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
  • Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
 
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