Emma Watson accused of antisemitism over pro-Palestinian Instagram post

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You're constantly sourcing Haaretz left wing propaganda newspaper and B'tselem - pseudo human right organization filled with Jewish anti-semites (yes there is such a thing)

Must be sad when your own people turn against you.

Genocide, apartheid? A poll Israel cannot allow itself to ignore

Nobody who knows the reality in Israel could possibly believe it is committing genocide against the Palestinians. Yet 22% of US Jews apparently do. Alarm bells should be ringing

www.timesofisrael.com

 

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Must be sad when your own people turn against you.

Genocide, apartheid? A poll Israel cannot allow itself to ignore

Nobody who knows the reality in Israel could possibly believe it is committing genocide against the Palestinians. Yet 22% of US Jews apparently do. Alarm bells should be ringing

www.timesofisrael.com

it's always sad to see scumbaggery amongst your own. but Israel is democratic country, so everyone can have a say
imagine this sort of organizations in an Arab country - they would be shut down before they spell their own name

 

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it's always sad to see scumbaggery amongst your own. but Israel is democratic country, so everyone can have a say
imagine this sort of organizations in an Arab country - they would be shut down before they spell their own name

Its not a democracy when over half of the people living under your rule can't vote.
Oh, and would you say that the 45% of those living under Israeli rule who say its apartheid are all 'scumbaggery'?
Doesn't say much for how you feel about the country.

 

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Its not a democracy when over half of the people living under your rule can't vote.
Oh, and would you say that the 45% of those living under Israeli rule who say its apartheid are all 'scumbaggery'?
Doesn't say much for how you feel about the country.

Palestinian Authority in Gaza and West Bank are self-governing entities. They have their own politicians, elections,
police, security forces and so on. Israelis owe them nothing. And yet they send them aid, free electricity, allow them
to cross into Israel to work and go to Israeli hospitals for treatment.

 

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Palestinian Authority in Gaza and West Bank are self-governing entities. They have their own politicians, elections,
police, security forces and so on. Israelis owe them nothing. And yet they send them aid, free electricity, allow them
to cross into Israel to work and go to Israeli hospitals for treatment.

They don't get to vote for the government that controls the food, aid, electricity, water, health care, social services or health care.
That's why the UN is looking at labelling the country apartheid next month.

That's not democracy.

 

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They don't get to vote for the government that controls the food, aid, electricity, water, health care, social services or health care.
That's why the UN is looking at labelling the country apartheid next month.

That's not democracy.

They are not ruled by Israel, they elected whoever they wanted to elect and that's who rules them. Is there restrictions to enter
Israel ? yes. That's what happens when infiltrating elements blow, stab, shoot innocent bystanders....then everyone is affected
even those who are not militant

 

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That's what happens when infiltrating elements blow, stab, shoot innocent bystanders....then everyone is affected
even those who are not militant

You mean like this?

Police minister: Settler attack on activists is ‘organized action of a terror group’

Barlev says that in West Bank attack that injured 6 activists, perpetrators are just the 'tip of the iceberg'; confirms Shin Bet involved in investigation

www.timesofisrael.com

Palestinians don't get to vote for the government that controls the IDF, the army backing these attacks on civilians living in what could have been Palestine.

 

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You mean like this?

Police minister: Settler attack on activists is ‘organized action of a terror group’

Barlev says that in West Bank attack that injured 6 activists, perpetrators are just the 'tip of the iceberg'; confirms Shin Bet involved in investigation

www.timesofisrael.com

Palestinians don't get to vote for the government that controls the IDF, the army backing these attacks on civilians living in what could have been Palestine.

why should they control IDF ?? IDF is the Israel's armed forces not the Palestinians. They do control their own forces

 

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why should they control IDF ?? IDF is the Israel's armed forces not the Palestinians. They do control their own forces

Are they in Israel or Palestine?

 

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they live on Israel's territory but received their own authority

 

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they live on Israel's territory but received their own authority

If you say its in Israel, then its clearly apartheid.
As you said, they don't get to vote for the government that controls the army that rules them.

I'm against apartheid.
Do you support apartheid?

 

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If you say its in Israel, then its clearly apartheid.
As you said, they don't get to vote for the government that controls the army that rules them.

I'm against apartheid.
Do you support apartheid?

they have their own armed forces which they control. Those of them who are citizens they vote too
and have Arab ministers in Israeli Parlament. You misuse the word and you do it intentionally. To smear
Israelis.

 

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they have their own armed forces which they control. Those of them who are citizens they vote too
and have Arab ministers in Israeli Parlament. You misuse the word and you do it intentionally. To smear
Israelis.

Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza are officially recognized as stateless refugees living under Israeli military occupation.
But after half a century the country seems to think like you do, that there is no Palestine.
Which leaves only apartheid.

With over half of the country living without citizenship and basic human rights.
That's apartheid.

A Threshold Crossed

The 213-page report, “A Threshold Crossed: Israeli Authorities and the Crimes of Apartheid and Persecution,” examines Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. It presents the present-day reality of a single authority, the Israeli government, ruling primarily over the area between the Jordan River and...

www.hrw.org

 

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Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza are officially recognized as stateless refugees living under Israeli military occupation.
But after half a century the country seems to think like you do, that there is no Palestine.
Which leaves only apartheid.

With over half of the country living without citizenship and basic human rights.
That's apartheid.

A Threshold Crossed

The 213-page report, “A Threshold Crossed: Israeli Authorities and the Crimes of Apartheid and Persecution,” examines Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. It presents the present-day reality of a single authority, the Israeli government, ruling primarily over the area between the Jordan River and...

www.hrw.org

nice try...HRW these are the same arguments like there is a systemic racism and oppression in Canada and US

You are being redirected...

www.adl.org

 

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I think Cantaro’s back!

 

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nice try...HRW these are the same arguments like there is a systemic racism and oppression in Canada and US

Human Rights Watch, B'tselem, UN, Yesh Din....

Apparently Amnesty's report will come out soon as well.
Then the UN will vote on these reports.

If Israel is found to be apartheid then all countries will have a moral duty to sanction Israel, including Canada.

South Africa tried denial as a tactic as well, didn't work out that well.
BDS and sanctions are the proven, peaceful way to end apartheid.

 

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Human Rights Watch, B'tselem, UN, Yesh Din -- all of these are one sided anti Israel propaganda organizations

Within Israel, there are safeguards aimed at ensuring the equal treatment of all citizens, Jewish or Arab, and Israeli laws and democratic institutions, including the independent courts and robust free press, assigned to uphold and speak out for these rights. Representing over 20% of Israel’s population, Israeli Arab citizens serve as judges, ambassadors, legislators, journalists, professors, artists and play prominent roles in all aspects of Israeli society. And for the first time, as of June 2021, an Islamist Arab political party is a partner in a governing coalition.

 

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Human Rights Watch, B'tselem, UN, Yesh Din -- all of these are one sided anti Israel propaganda organizations

Within Israel, there are safeguards aimed at ensuring the equal treatment of all citizens, Jewish or Arab, and Israeli laws and democratic institutions, including the independent courts and robust free press, assigned to uphold and speak out for these rights. Representing over 20% of Israel’s population, Israeli Arab citizens serve as judges, ambassadors, legislators, journalists, professors, artists and play prominent roles in all aspects of Israeli society. And for the first time, as of June 2021, an Islamist Arab political party is a partner in a governing coalition.

You nailed it.
Palestinians living in what you labelled 'Israel' in the WB and Gaza, aren't allowed to be citizens and instead live as stateless refugees.
Apartheid.

 

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You nailed it.
Palestinians living in what you labelled 'Israel' in the WB and Gaza, aren't allowed to be citizens and instead live as stateless refugees.
Apartheid.

they are not citizens, but they can apply, and some become ones. There are many countries where you cannot become a citizen
even though you live there ....China come into mind...try to get citizenship there, let me know how it goes. In fact in China, even
if you marry a local woman you still will not get citizenship.

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they are not citizens, but they can apply, and some become ones. There are many countries where you cannot become a citizen
even though you live there ....China come into mind...try to get citizenship there, let me know how it goes. In fact in China, even
if you marry a local woman you still will not get citizenship.

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So your argument is that Israel is as moral as China?
Total winning line of argument there, whitehill.

Olmert and others have warned Israel was headed towards apartheid for decades.
You've had decades to either fix the problem or figure out how to defend it.
And that's the best you've got?