Emma Watson accused of antisemitism over pro-Palestinian Instagram post

[Frankfooter]

Is this your attempt at slander of is it just a desperate attempt to avoid admitting Hamas, PIJ, and PFLP are terrorist entities? You must be really sad living in a country so racist as to call them terrorists.

I'm calling out your slandering of Palestinians by using the word 'terrorist' in almost every single post.
Its part of a cantaro like pattern.

Sharp rise in anti-Arab and Palestinian hate speech reported on Israeli social media

Campaign group 7amleh found incitement trebled compared to 2020, with peaks of violent speech during 2021's Israeli election and Gaza offensive

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Try talking about human rights, the Geneva Conventions and international law.
Instead of trying to slander an entire people with the term 'terrorist'.

 

[whitehill_21]

I am a proud Jew and a proud Zionist and I had no problem with her tweet.

if you were, you would be supporting your ancestors, their land and their right to exist in their land

 

[toguy5252]

if you were, you would be supporting your ancestors, their land and their right to exist in their land

What do you think it means to be a proud Jew and a proud ZIONIST. Do you have the slightest clue what it means to be a Zionist. Gee you posts are becoming increasingly idiotic just to be contrary.

 

[whitehill_21]

What do you think it means to be a proud Jew and a proud ZIONIST. Do you have the slightest clue what it means to be a Zionist. Gee you posts are becoming increasingly idiotic just to be contrary.

And I lived in Israel and lived in the settlement north of Jerusalem so know about these things a bit better than you.

 

[toguy5252]

And I lived in Israel and lived in the settlement north of Jerusalem so know about these things a bit better than you.

I am sorry to hear that you are a member of the tribe because your posts are generally shear lunacy. Perhaps you can explain how someone can be a proud Jew and a proud Zionist and not be a supporter of our ancestors and Israel's right to exist. That is what Zionism is. If you are truly a supporter of our ancestors you would not be in love with your fearless leader who may be an anti-Semite but definitely has made anti-Semitism more acceptable and has added to the antisemitic incidents in the US.

 

[whitehill_21]

I am sorry to hear that you are a member of the tribe because your posts are generally shear lunacy. Perhaps you can explain how someone can be a proud Jew and a proud Zionist and not be a supporter of our ancestors and Israel's right to exist. That is what Zionism is.

As I said, if you were so proud as you mentioned to be, you wouldn't support Emma Watson tweets on solidarity with palestinians. You cannot sit on two chairs, or you support Jews or palestinians as long as there is a conflict

 

[toguy5252]

As I said, if you were so proud as you mentioned to be, you wouldn't support Emma Watson tweets on solidarity with palestinians. You cannot sit on two chairs, or you support Jews or palestinians as long as there is a conflict

You may not understand it but I do not see any contradiction in expressing support for Palestinians. If there is to be peace it will only come with a 2 state solution and with the establishment of a Palestinian state within borders to be negotiated.

 

[whitehill_21]

You may not understand it but I do not see any contradiction in expressing support for Palestinians. If there is to be peace it will only come with a 2 state solution and with the establishment of a Palestinian state within borders to be negotiated.

Peace will not come if one side hates the other side so is ready to kill anyone in site. No matter of what technical solution is offered. And as long as one side is ready to wipe you (and your family)
you cannot support their side (if you are a Jew)...sort of a basic truth, which you are obviously ignoring or simply not familiar with. If Jews lay down the weapons they will be exterminated, if Palestinians
do - will be Peace.

 

[Frankfooter]

Peace will not come if one side hates the other side so is ready to kill anyone in site. No matter of what technical solution is offered. And as long as one side is ready to wipe you (and your family)
you cannot support their side (if you are a Jew)...sort of a basic truth, which you are obviously ignoring or simply not familiar with. If Jews lay down the weapons they will be exterminated, if Palestinians
do - will be Peace.

That might be the most hate filled post I've read here in quite some time.

Here in Canada, we live with a population that includes Palestinian refugees and Jews who live together peacefully.
Are you really saying you can't do that yourself even here?

 

[toguy5252]

Peace will not come if one side hates the other side so is ready to kill anyone in site. No matter of what technical solution is offered. And as long as one side is ready to wipe you (and your family)
you cannot support their side (if you are a Jew)...sort of a basic truth, which you are obviously ignoring or simply not familiar with. If Jews lay down the weapons they will be exterminated, if Palestinians
do - will be Peace.

First peace will not come unless their are very large compromises on both sides. The absence of peace promotes hatred on both sides. I see nothing wrong or anti Jewish or anti Zionist in expressing sympathy for and even solidarity with the Palestinian people, most of who only want a better life for themselves and their families. The Palestinian people have been victimized first by other Arab leaders in the region and now by the PA and Hamas. I have been to Israel many, many times and I have a lot of family. i have friends who Palestinians living in Israel. I do not claim to have the same insight into the problems as the Israelis Jews and Palestinians who live there (and perhaps you) but I know enough to see that the status quo is unsustainable over the very long term. As a Zionist I believe that the long terms security and preservation of Israel as the historic homeland of the Jewish people ultimately depends upon a peaceful resolution with the Palestinians and that resolution will ultimately be a two state solution.

 

[Frankfooter]

First peace will not come unless their are very large compromises on both sides. The absence of peace promotes hatred on both sides. I see nothing wrong or anti Jewish or anti Zionist in expressing sympathy for and even solidarity with the Palestinian people, most of who only want a better life for themselves and their families. The Palestinian people have been victimized first by other Arab leaders in the region and now by the PA and Hamas. I have been to Israel many, many times and I have a lot of family. i have friends who Palestinians living in Israel. I do not claim to have the same insight into the problems as the Israelis Jews and Palestinians who live there (and perhaps you) but I know enough to see that the status quo is unsustainable over the very long term. As a Zionist I believe that the long terms security and preservation of Israel as the historic homeland of the Jewish people ultimately depends upon a peaceful resolution with the Palestinians and that resolution will ultimately be a two state solution.

I used to also think the two state solution was the best choice, that used to be what my Palestinian and Jewish friends used to argue for, but I think its unfortunately way beyond that now. I mean, I would expect that you can't even imagine a map of a two state solution that both sides would accept, nor terms to deal with the settlements and the refugees. If you can, please show it, I'd love to see it.

That just leaves the campaign to end apartheid through sanctions as the most realistic one and hopefully the least violent one for both sides.

 

[Insidious Von]

Terrorists?!

The UK has opened their doors to real terrorists, not Palestinians. Is this what British citizens signed up for when they rejected the EU?

 

[basketcase]

I'm calling out your slandering of Palestinians by using the word 'terrorist' in almost every single post.
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Sad that you have to scream racism to cover for your immoral stances. Even more pathetic how constantly you are trying to portray all settlers as terrorists and justifying attack son them because of it.

Canada considers Hamas, PFLP, PIJ and several other factions to be terrorist entities because they commit terrorism. You of course refuse to even admit that there is terrorism from a small number of Palestinians.

 

[basketcase]

As I said, if you were so proud as you mentioned to be, you wouldn't support Emma Watson tweets on solidarity with palestinians. ...

What's wrong with her tweet? It said nothing about eliminating Israel the way Franky tries to promote.

 

[basketcase]

That might be the most hate filled post I've read here in quite some time.
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Yes, he tries to portray the entire Palestinian population that way which is wrong but it sure is valid to describe that as Hamas' views. It's also valid to say that Palestinian polling consistently says between a third and half of Palestinians support " armed attacks against Israeli civilians inside Israel" so Hamas clearly has some support in their goals. Admittedly there is a faction in Israel who wants to ethnically cleanse Palestinians but they do not represent national policy.

His point about the hate from one side does apply to both sides though one side is a democracy while one of the two Palestinian governments is simply a military dictatorship.

 

[Frankfooter]

Sad that you have to scream racism to cover for your immoral stances. Even more pathetic how constantly you are trying to portray all settlers as terrorists and justifying attack son them because of it.

Canada considers Hamas, PFLP, PIJ and several other factions to be terrorist entities because they commit terrorism. You of course refuse to even admit that there is terrorism from a small number of Palestinians.

My moral stance is a stance against violence and racism, that includes apartheid and the occupation.

Today the Israeli government called out the latest terrorist attack, I'm sure you'll join them.
Israeli minister slams settler violence as 'terrorism'

 

[basketcase]

I used to also think the two state solution was the best choice, that used to be what my Palestinian and Jewish friends used to argue for, but I think its unfortunately way beyond that now. I mean, I would expect that you can't even imagine a map of a two state solution that both sides would accept, nor terms to deal with the settlements and the refugees. If you can, please show it, I'd love to see it.

That just leaves the campaign to end apartheid through sanctions as the most realistic one and hopefully the least violent one for both sides.

Who cares what Palestinians actually want. It's sad when the academic elitism that drove colonialism still drives you and others to demand Israel impose a peace that Palestinians reject, allegedly while supporting Palestinian rights.

 

[basketcase]

My moral stance is a stance against violence and racism,...

Except when it's from Palestinian factions.

And yes, Israel condemns terrorism no matter who does it. Hamas and the PA celebrate it.

 

[Frankfooter]

Yes, he tries to portray the entire Palestinian population that way which is wrong but it sure is valid to describe that as Hamas' views. It's also valid to say that Palestinian polling consistently says between a third and half of Palestinians support " armed attacks against Israeli civilians inside Israel" so Hamas clearly has some support in their goals. Admittedly there is a faction in Israel who wants to ethnically cleanse Palestinians but they do not represent national policy.

His point about the hate from one side does apply to both sides though one side is a democracy while one of the two Palestinian governments is simply a military dictatorship.

Yet the polls also say about 1/2 of all living under Israeli rule say its apartheid.
And the polls say that 1/4 of US Jews accuse Israel of apartheid and genocide.

You tend towards the same tactics, basketcase, but you do it through omission, where you never post about the majority of Palestinians, only Hamas, and only to use the word 'terrorist' to describe Palestinians in general.

 

[Frankfooter]

Who cares what Palestinians actually want.

The Palestinian BDS movement calls for boycotts and sanctions to end apartheid.
That's what Palestinians want, if you care.

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