Emma Watson accused of antisemitism over pro-Palestinian Instagram post

[Frankfooter]

ROTFLMFAO!! Signs of ....- the use of words like "hasbara"- you've been studying. What else is a giveaway?- "zionist", "apartheid ", etc. FYI, we already have one of you, here. Two might be a bit redundant, especially since you keep repeating exactly the same script over and over and over....

Hmm, so its not being apartheid that's racist, but quoting human rights reports about apartheid that's racist?
Is that your thinking here?

A Threshold Crossed

The 213-page report, “A Threshold Crossed: Israeli Authorities and the Crimes of Apartheid and Persecution,” examines Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. It presents the present-day reality of a single authority, the Israeli government, ruling primarily over the area between the Jordan River and...

www.hrw.org

 

[basketcase]

Two points:
1) Threads about Turkey, Morrocco, China, etc die after one post because everyone here agrees they have major issues. These threads continue because people defend apartheid and war crimes.
2) None of those countries are apartheid.

Nice try to justify your silence. You just said Israel is the only country with a length occupation and now you have to move the goalposts.

And Northern Cyprus and Tibet are as close to Apartheid as Israel (as in it's not but it does have some religion based rules and systemic discrimination). China has also engaged in massive settler activity in Tibet that you don't talk about.

p.s. Tibet is a controversial topic too and every time it's been discussed, there will be people disagreeing with whatever view is put forward.

 

[basketcase]

Israel is apartheid.
B'tselem, the UN, HRW about half those living under Israeli rule say Israel is apartheid.

For instance, basketcase says its antisemitic to deny the right of self determination to Jews, yet Israel's Nation State Law denies the right of self determination to Palestinians.
That's a legal example of both apartheid and an example of basketcase's own 'antisemitism', since Palestinians are also Semites.

Israel’s nation-state law to unleash ‘deepening apartheid’

Experts in London warn of new stage in ‘settler-colonial’ process amid fears for Palestinian citizens under 2018 law.

www.aljazeera.com

Its way past the point of denial, really you should be worrying about how to end apartheid.
I mean really, if you want to lessen racism and antisemitism you really can't be pushing apartheid at the same time.

I love how you can demand self determination for Palestinians while denying it for Jews.

Israelis have used their self-determination. The Jewish population as well as the vast majority of the Arab Israeli population want Israel to continue existing. Palestinian self-determination should apply in the West Bank and Gaza. Sadly one of the major stumbling blocks that you refuse to comment on is major Palestinian factions are unwilling to accept either living with Jews or alongside Israel. But sure, keep on pretending Israel can force terror groups like Hamas into a peace deal.

 

[basketcase]

Oh, you mean the redneck antisemitism hurts more from that practiced by Al Sharpton? Lol!

The strange thing about some Left wing anti-semites is they are happy to justify the antisemitism from extremely conservative voices as long as they aren't white conservatives. In some ways I prefer the right-wing racists as they are honest about their views instead of hiding it in elitist claims of wanting to help people.

 

[basketcase]

That's a bit misleading, since it suggests that "Palestinian" is/was a either a race or a nationality at the time of Christ. Instead, it was just a geographic region of independent city states until the area came under the control of a number of successive foreign empires. There was no such thing as a Palestinian until the PLO. Jesus was "Palestinian" only in the way that Prince Albert II is "European".

Correct. People at the time of Jesus (whether or not there was a divine aspect) were Judeans. About 100 years later, the Romans used the term Palaestina to describe the region, not the people.

A better comparison would say calling Jesus Palestinian is like Columbus calling the Caribbean people Indians.

 

[basketcase]

Maybe "Lol!" to you but neither funny nor germane. "Whataboutism" is another hasbara ritual, born out of desperation.

Ah, a Jewish conspiracy. Nice.

Are you suggesting there is no antisemitism except from the White Supremacist types?

 

[jcpro]

The strange thing about some Left wing anti-semites is they are happy to justify the antisemitism from extremely conservative voices as long as they aren't white conservatives. In some ways I prefer the right-wing racists as they are honest about their views instead of hiding it in elitist claims of wanting to help people.

All my life I've always said(got it from my grandma): give me an honest antisemite, give me an honest racist; have the courage to stand on your convictions. That way I know what I'm dealing with. As long as they hide, the problem will persist because it's easy to fool great many people. The power of the state did not destroy the Klan nor did the hate speech laws, etc. The Klan was destroyed when the every day people discovered that racism is odious.

 

[Frankfooter]

Nice try to justify your silence. You just said Israel is the only country with a length occupation and now you have to move the goalposts.

And Northern Cyprus and Tibet are as close to Apartheid as Israel (as in it's not but it does have some religion based rules and systemic discrimination). China has also engaged in massive settler activity in Tibet that you don't talk about.

p.s. Tibet is a controversial topic too and every time it's been discussed, there will be people disagreeing with whatever view is put forward.

I said occupation and apartheid.
The main point is that nobody here will defend Turkey, Russia or China.

All my life I've always said(got it from my grandma): give me an honest antisemite, give me an honest racist; have the courage to stand on your convictions.

Ah, that explains why you back Trump and his merry band of tiki torch carrying supporters.

 

[basketcase]

I said occupation and apartheid.
The main point is that nobody here will defend Turkey, Russia or China.
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Except plenty of people do. And you stay silent because you can't find a way blame Israel.

And yes, Northern Cyprus, Western Sahara, and Tibet can be as accurately (mis) labelled as apartheid.

 

[jcpro]

I said occupation and apartheid.
The main point is that nobody here will defend Turkey, Russia or China.



Ah, that explains why you back Trump and his merry band of tiki torch carrying supporters.

see who carries tiki torches

Anti-Trump group takes credit for Virginia tiki torch stunt

NORFOLK, Va. (AP) — The anti-Donald Trump group The Lincoln Project took credit Friday for five people appearing with tiki torches at a Charlottesville campaign stop by Virginia's GOP candidate for governor, a stunt recalling white supremacists who descended on that city amid violence in 2017.

apnews.com

 

[Frankfooter]

Except plenty of people do.

Nope, no threads going on about those countries.
Nobody defending them.

The only country where people defend apartheid and illegal occupations is Israel on this board.
Which is why these threads continue.

Stop defending apartheid and these threads will disappear.

 

[Frankfooter]

see who carries tiki torches

Anti-Trump group takes credit for Virginia tiki torch stunt

NORFOLK, Va. (AP) — The anti-Donald Trump group The Lincoln Project took credit Friday for five people appearing with tiki torches at a Charlottesville campaign stop by Virginia's GOP candidate for governor, a stunt recalling white supremacists who descended on that city amid violence in 2017.

apnews.com

Yes, people protesting Trump by making fun of his tiki torch carrying supporters.
The Lincoln Project then weighed in, saying it was behind what it called a “demonstration.”

“The Youngkin campaign is enraged by our reminder of Charlottesville for one simple reason: Glenn Youngkin wants Virginians to forget that he is Donald Trump’s candidate,” the group said of the former president.

 

[wigglee]

I don't necessarily disagree, BUT it's also a well known fact that all ant-semites(let's not kid ourselves what that term denotes) have migrated to the "criticize " Israel side.

you mean like all racist morons have migrated to the Trump side?

 

[basketcase]

Nope, no threads going on about those countries.
Nobody defending them.

The only country where people defend apartheid and illegal occupations is Israel on this board.
Which is why these threads continue.

Stop defending apartheid and these threads will disappear.

There would be no threads about Israel if you weren't constantly pushing your idiocy either. Your excuse is essentially that you don't bother talking about all these non-Israel issues because you don't talk about them.

 

[Frankfooter]

There would be no threads about Israel if you weren't constantly pushing your idiocy either. Your excuse is essentially that you don't bother talking about all these non-Israel issues because you don't talk about them.

You mean if I didn't quote human rights organizations like B'tselem, HRW or Amnesty?
There would be no threads if you didn't defend apartheid, settler colonialism and the occupation.

Personally, I think its a moral duty to take a stand against apartheid.
Especially if you argue that you are against racism on this board.

 

[basketcase]

You mean if I didn't quote human rights organizations like B'tselem, HRW or Amnesty?
...

Except for when they are critical of the Palestinian leaders, say there is no justification for Gaza rockets, or say Jews being in the West Bank doesn't make them legitimate targets.

Keep on making whatever excuses you want, your obsession and double standard makes it clear what your motivation is.

 

[niniveh]

All my life I've always said(got it from my grandma): give me an honest antisemite, give me an honest racist; have the courage to stand on your convictions. That way I know what I'm dealing with. As long as they hide, the problem will persist because it's easy to fool great many people. The power of the state did not destroy the Klan nor did the hate speech laws, etc. The Klan was destroyed when the every day people discovered that racism is odious.
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"All my life I've always said(got it from my grandma): give me an honest antisemite, give me an honest racist;"

Your bobe was a perscipacious woman. Pity, in your effort to emulate you're such an abject failure.

 

[jcpro]

And I know who you are as well. That makes two of us, I guess.

 

[niniveh]

Ah, a Jewish conspiracy. Nice.

Are you suggesting there is no antisemitism except from the White Supremacist types?

Ah, a Jewish conspiracy. Nice.

Are you suggesting there is no antisemitism except from the White Supremacist types?

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You're just proving my point, kiddo. On the hasbara list "yell Jewish conspiracy" follows right after "scream antisemetism", doesn't it?

No one here suggested there is " no antisemetism except from White Supremacists".....except you.
Your buddy babbled something about "Where can you exercise open Jew hatred in the free world, do tell?"
He had never heard of Charlottesville, apparently. Or Trump.
Of course there is antisemetism around of differing ilk. As there is racism around us of wide variety. Right here!
Zionist racism as inflicted upon Palestinians. But with those doctrinaire blinders on, you are helpless, aren't you>
'Nuff said. I am done with you schmucks who have nothing original to say.

 

[Frankfooter]

Except for when they are critical of the Palestinian leaders, say there is no justification for Gaza rockets, or say Jews being in the West Bank doesn't make them legitimate targets.

Keep on making whatever excuses you want, your obsession and double standard makes it clear what your motivation is.

Feel free to quote the reports and find the parts you think I don't agree with.
Then together we can say we both agree fully with the reports from B'tselem, HRW and Amnesty and that we both support sending those reports to the ICC so that they can investigate both sides.
Because you of course support those reports fully, don't you?