Women do not make it very easy for men when it comes to dating.

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Right? Getting turned down is so part of the game. I was turned down and turned down more than anyone can be bothered to count. It doesn't make you unattractive. Just unattractive to that person. I'm so glad I never online dated. My game involved laughter and fun. I never tried to impress. Just have fun and involve them in it. Ask them about themselves. Be interested. Get that belly laugh.

Because not only would I be attractive to that one, but a few others in proximity as well.

As For D&D awesome game. Creative, fun, and violent. What more could you ask for?
Exactly! Thank you!

I don't mind a little violence after midnight lol.
 

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This. Gender has fuck all to do with it. People want to engage with other people they feel on the same level with, not higher, not lower.

I would not even go on a date with a woman who works in walmart or McD. I would fully expect them to be dumb af and spending an evening with them would be unbearably boring. Unless maybe they are sexual freaks or something similarly improbable.
 
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When exactly did men have it "easy" when dating women? Men have always had to do a "mating dance" to attract women and they are not always successful. IMO, I think having a positive attitude is a big part of success in anything. If you come at it thinking that it's too hard, then that's what you'll get. Success comes with a lot of patience, perseverance and willingness to improve yourself. If you're not getting the results with one method i.e. online then you have to try other things.

One aspect of dating that has changed over the years is that many people are not not looking for marriage or children or they want to to delay it. Getting married and having kids used used to be the social norm. People are now more picky because the norms have changed. If you're looking for a particular race, don't want to get married, have kids, etc. then a huge pool of potential matches are not available. Either you need to be open to other potential matches or you have to sift through a lot of people to find what you want.
 
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This. Gender has fuck all to do with it. People want to engage with other people they feel on the same level with, not higher, not lower.
This is not quite what I meant. I would be happy to engage with a person who I feel is on a higher level than me. If a girl has a PhD and done something incredibly amazing in her life I’m totally happy about all that. What I’m saying is it doesn’t necessarily need to be about money.She may have a PhD and be a starving artist and be an interesting person. But if she works at Walmart I don’t have any hopes that she’s an interesting person.
 

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I have had dates not show up. I immediately assumed they weren't interested and never contacted them again. Here's the thing though, I've had a few women come up to me after, asking me why I never contacted them again. Some were confused that I would assume they weren't interested just because they didn't show up. Some of these girls even ignored my messages, again making me think they weren't interested.

Whenever this happened, I wasn't sure what to do and I just decided it was better to not pursue it any further. Unfortunately, there isn't anyone I can talk to about this, so I just accept that people's behaviour is confusing sometimes.
Ghosting a date, that is - not contacting or texting you that a they cannot make previously arranged date - is the sign of a self involved individual who is unreliable, self-centered and a walking disaster for long term commitments. I had the same thing happen to me - we were suppose to go out and I was ghosted with my texts at the time of the date going unanswered. All that was required was a simple text message - something came up, I can't make it. I heard from her a few days later telling me some family stuff happened and trying to reschedule the date. I told her I had plans and would get back to her. (ie: Won't happen)

How much effort does it take to simply text someone there is a change of plans ? What level of lack of empathy not to care about you wasting your time waiting for a date ? Not worth any future effort for me.
 

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This is not quite what I meant. I would be happy to engage with a person who I feel is on a higher level than me. If a girl has a PhD and done something incredibly amazing in her life I’m totally happy about all that. What I’m saying is it doesn’t necessarily need to be about money.She may have a PhD and be a starving artist and be an interesting person. But if she works at Walmart I don’t have any hopes that she’s an interesting person.
i think you are pigeon holing...........just because somebody has a PHD does not raise her interesting quotient automatically higher than someone working at Walmart.........she may be a crashing bore and the girl from Walmart could be a fun loving ball of fire.................or vice versa..,..i know its trite to say, but dont judge a book by the cover.........i dated a nanny for a Leslie/Lawrence couple.....years ago....had a hell of alot of fun....married her, but of course i couldn,t stay true and i fucked up the marriage
 

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i think you are pigeon holing...........just because somebody has a PHD does not raise her interesting quotient automatically higher than someone working at Walmart.........she may be a crashing bore and the girl from Walmart could be a fun loving ball of fire.................or vice versa..,..i know its trite to say, but dont judge a book by the cover.........i dated a nanny for a Leslie/Lawrence couple.....years ago....had a hell of alot of fun....married her, but of course i couldn,t stay true and i fucked up the marriage
I never said that a degree automatically means anything. I can see a nanny being interesting but it's hard to see how a conveyor belt worker would be interesting. I loathe to think who she would normally be spending time with, what films she likes etc etc.
 

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But, would she be interested in chilling with you? :p

Most people might feel intimidate by someone they deem as more interesting then themselves. Humans tend to stick to like-minded whenever they can.

This is not quite what I meant. I would be happy to engage with a person who I feel is on a higher level than me. If a girl has a PhD and done something incredibly amazing in her life I’m totally happy about all that. What I’m saying is it doesn’t necessarily need to be about money.She may have a PhD and be a starving artist and be an interesting person. But if she works at Walmart I don’t have any hopes that she’s an interesting person.
 

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I never said that a degree automatically means anything. I can see a nanny being interesting but it's hard to see how a conveyor belt worker would be interesting. I loathe to think who she would normally be spending time with, what films she likes etc etc.
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its nice that you can discern between interesting women and uninteresting women based on 1 criteria............or are you just a snob?
 

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When exactly did men have it "easy" when dating women? Men have always had to do a "mating dance" to attract women and they are not always successful.
Check out how hard the "mating dance" is for some birds


In nature it seems common for the males of the species to be the visually more impressive gender. I saw Elk in Jasper a few years back. A lot of tourists were taking pics of the Buck/Bull. Most people couldn't have cared less about the female elk. Antlers drew all the eyes
 

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there are some studies out there that indicate how skewed the ratio of men and women is continuing their genetic legacy. most women (high percentage) pass on their genetic legacy. for men this number is dramqtically lower.
 

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Meh - I don’t think I would want to live as a man either. You have your issues too. Freeloading women, much higher expectations regarding profession and income baring, hard labour jobs, getting the shitty end of the stick when it comes to courts and your kids. Not to mention stereo types around mental illness, emotional issues which are natural but harder for men in my opinion to get addressed.

and there are many men who deal with abusive women as well without supports at all. And get arrested when they call the cops for protection.

We both have our shitty ends of the stick.
I don’t think I would want to live as a man either

Interesting.

LJ
 

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Check out how hard the "mating dance" is for some birds


In nature it seems common for the males of the species to be the visually more impressive gender. I saw Elk in Jasper a few years back. A lot of tourists were taking pics of the Buck/Bull. Most people couldn't have cared less about the female elk. Antlers drew all the eyes
This is a great link to a series originally narrated by Sir David Attenborough " PLANET EARTH " Originally on blue ray I believe it is now available in 4k.

LJ
 
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There are PhD's out there who at one point in their lives worked at a Wal-Mart or a fast food joint.
 

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Hey. You try. You fall. You get back up. You try again. This victimization needs to stop. You can cry in your shit or get out of your shit. You guys act like we are never rejected. I had my lot of rejection. Hell my job is based on acceptance or rejection when you guys look at me. Also, you think it's easy to date when you are a sex worker? I don't pity you guys. Stop it already.

What is d&d dear? Dick & Disappointment 🤪?
Sorry, you have no clue what you are talking about.

It isn't a matter of being rejected once and curling into the fetal position and sobbing like a bitch.
You get rejected, sure, but you also get accepted... accepted to the point where people open their wallets just for a chance to spend money with you.
Comparing yourself to someone who say was bullied through the latter part of K-12, constantly having the idea reinforced that they are unlikable and getting no encouragement or flirting afterwords.
Comparing yourself to someone who gets girlfriends on facebook from other countries with his long hair metal looks and metal interests but can't find anyone locally because of social anxiety.
Comparing yourself to someone who when his buds offered him an air dance for his birthday at the annuity bar gripped the chair in terror and said those immortal words "I think I am going to puke" [don't feel bad, this one was a bit of a jerk actually].
Comparing yourself to someone who is so stiff and wooden that he doesn't even have to ask someone out to seriously creep them out, over and over. [People complain to a friend of his who I also know] He tried busting out of his shell, even thought he was doing well, but he didn't know the sort of damage he was doing.

Actually of the nerdly set, about half are now married and they didn't "man up" they just happened to come across someone of similar looks and interests and who made it easy and got lucky to find them.
Sometimes much like with the movie Wargames, the best move is to just not play and hope for the best [see above line]

Alas if I could go back 30-35 years with what I know now. I mean I am not lower than dirt, well sure that store bought dirt with all the nutrients, I can't compete with that but I am above normal dirt.


"What is d&d dear? Dick & Disappointment 🤪?"

I'll take someone who doesn't get it for 200 Alex.
 

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Sorry, you have no clue what you are talking about.

It isn't a matter of being rejected once and curling into the fetal position and sobbing like a bitch.
You get rejected, sure, but you also get accepted... accepted to the point where people open their wallets just for a chance to spend money with you.
Comparing yourself to someone who say was bullied through the latter part of K-12, constantly having the idea reinforced that they are unlikable and getting no encouragement or flirting afterwords.
Comparing yourself to someone who gets girlfriends on facebook from other countries with his long hair metal looks and metal interests but can't find anyone locally because of social anxiety.
Comparing yourself to someone who when his buds offered him an air dance for his birthday at the annuity bar gripped the chair in terror and said those immortal words "I think I am going to puke" [don't feel bad, this one was a bit of a jerk actually].
Comparing yourself to someone who is so stiff and wooden that he doesn't even have to ask someone out to seriously creep them out, over and over. [People complain to a friend of his who I also know] He tried busting out of his shell, even thought he was doing well, but he didn't know the sort of damage he was doing.

Actually of the nerdly set, about half are now married and they didn't "man up" they just happened to come across someone of similar looks and interests and who made it easy and got lucky to find them.
Sometimes much like with the movie Wargames, the best move is to just not play and hope for the best [see above line]

Alas if I could go back 30-35 years with what I know now. I mean I am not lower than dirt, well sure that store bought dirt with all the nutrients, I can't compete with that but I am above normal dirt.


"What is d&d dear? Dick & Disappointment 🤪?"

I'll take someone who doesn't get it for 200 Alex.
Excuse me???? Are you saying that escorts were never bullied in school? That escorts don't deal or have not dealt with social anxiety or any other problems. Want to guess how many escorts were cutters? Suffer from depression and anxiety, etc?

Right - I forgot. Pretty girls don't have problems. :rolleyes:

I agree. I will take someone who doesn't get it either Alex.
 
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Excuse me???? Are you saying that escorts were never bullied in school? That escorts don't deal or have not dealt with social anxiety or any other problems. Want to guess how many escorts were cutters? Suffer from depression and anxiety, etc?

Right - I forgot. Pretty girls don't have problems

I never said any of that. I was talking to one particular person who obviously doesn't get it.
If she actually had to deal with that shit she wouldn't talk in the flippent manner that she does.
 

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I never said any of that. I was talking to one particular person who obviously doesn't get it.
If she actually had to deal with that shit she wouldn't talk in the flippent manner that she does.
Really? Because you know what she has been through right? You can know she has never been bullied or had any issues to deal with right?

My post still stands. You went after her for shit you can't possibly know. You assume only. You made the classic mistake of assumption when it comes to escorts. The whole line about not being rejected because we get guys who gives us money!!! Lol.

One - we get rejected professionally more then you guys get rejected personally and two - that does not even include our normal personal rejections in private dating.

We know rejection too. And a fuck-ton of it. She is right. Suck it up and move on.

You got butt hurt by her response and went after her in the wrong way. Made you look much worse then her.
 
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