Texas Covid cases going down after relaxing mask law coupled with multiple factors

basketcase

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Surgical masks are useless. N95 masks is whats needed
Surgical masks are useless. N95 masks is whats needed
Surgical masks are useless. N95 masks is whats needed.
Surgical masks are useless. N95 masks is whats needed.
Surgical masks are useless. N95 masks is whats needed
I think Phil's Tourette's is acting up again.
 
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basketcase

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Because its irrelevant. The only timeframe that matters is from March 10th till now
(or if you wanna get technical March 12th till now since the incubation period can start within 2 days in some people)
I love how you now think the topic of the thread you started is irrelevant.
 

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Liar!!


Here's more proof you are wrong: https://www.tmc.edu/news/2020/07/can-the-coronavirus-spread-through-the-air/


So you see, the water that the viral particles are suspended in evaporates and leaves you with free floating Covid particles
This is at least the second time you posted about the letter without bothering to read the actual letter.

Studies by the signatories and other scientists have demonstrated beyond any reasonable doubt that viruses are released during exhalation, talking, and coughing in microdroplets small enough to remain aloft in air and pose a risk of exposure at distances beyond 1–2 m from an infected individual ([1–4]).
 

lenny2

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Surgical masks are useless. N95 masks is whats needed
There is no evidence of transmission from free-floating viral particles. The transmission is from respiratory droplets and aerosols, the smallest of which are in the 5 um range.
...and surgical masks filter down to 1um.
"The surgical mask blocked about 60% of .03 micron particles and over 90% of 1 micron and 2.5 micron particles."


"in one study, researchers tested particles down to .007 microns (even smaller than viruses) and found that a simple surgical mask blocked 80%."

"... it’s downright surprising that surgical masks are just as effective [as N95 masks]! Maybe virus particles are actually easy to capture because they fly on water droplets.

https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/n95-mask-surgical-prevent-transmission-coronavirus/?rel=1
 

Phil C. McNasty

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@basketcase

Care to respond to this: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/23/mit...ndoors-at-6-feet-or-60-feet-in-new-study.html

“We argue there really isn’t much of a benefit to the 6-foot rule, especially when people are wearing masks,” Bazant said in an interview.

“It really has no physical basis because the air a person is breathing while wearing a mask tends to rise and comes down elsewhere in the room so you’re more exposed to the average background than you are to a person at a distance.”
 

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I;ve been wearing double mask, one 3 ply and a designer cloth one on top and have never ever had an issue. Shopping, elevators, tight quarters with a room full of people and in contact with covid postive folks who I did have to get tested and quaratine for and until 11 am when I get my first jab today I've been good. Cover your nose and mouth with as little to no gaps, keep a reasonable distance if possible and you will be fine.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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I;ve been wearing double mask, one 3 ply and a designer cloth one on top and have never ever had an issue. Shopping, elevators, tight quarters with a room full of people and in contact with covid postive folks who I did have to get tested and quaratine for and until 11 am when I get my first jab today I've been good. Cover your nose and mouth with as little to no gaps, keep a reasonable distance if possible and you will be fine
Good for you 👍

But did you see the part where they say the virus is airborne and N95 masks are needed (instead of regular masks)??? 😏
 

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Good for you, but please respond to the news report. Do you aagree or disgaree that N95 mask work

Good for you 👍

But did you see the part where they say the virus is airborne and N95 masks are needed (instead of regular surgical masks)??? 😏
The fact is that the virus will get in from the openings around the mask if you are close to an unmasked selfish POS. Even an N95 not property fitted and has a gap will allow a little spiked prickly friend to get in. It is just common sense.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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The fact is that the virus will get in from the openings around the mask if you are close to an unmasked selfish POS. Even an N95 not property fitted and has a gap will allow a little spiked prickly friend to get in. It is just common sense
Awesome!! Its great that you agree with me 👍

You're a smart guy, squeezer :)
 

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The fact is that the virus will get in from the openings around the mask if you are close to an unmasked selfish POS. Even an N95 not property fitted and has a gap will allow a little spiked prickly friend to get in. It is just common sense.
There is strong evidence that the transmission through the eyes is occurring as well so that eye protection should be considered.
People wearing masks that are not form fitted N95 masks are supposed to be doing it to protect others in theory but in reality are wearing the masks for what they believe is self protection which has shown to be a flawed argument.
 
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Awesome!! Its great that you agree with me 👍

You're a smart guy, squeezer :)
We have never disputed the fact that this deadly virus is airborne and everyone should try to have a proper mask protection including a N95 one as well as if possible a second mask or a face shield.
Couple that with a vaccine, then pray and hope that all Canadians will follow those guidelines including true Social Distancing and we should reached herd immunity in a more precise manner.
However, you should be addressing mainly the right wingers who from the offset have believed the far right platforms / sites such as BitChute / Infowars and considered this virus to be a "hoax". Hilarious when some of them think that it is a conspiracy to control the world population and was deliberately started by the likes of Gates, and even Clinton and other Democrats / Liberals etc. LOL!!
 

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On the slopes of Mount Parnassus, Greece
"The surgical mask blocked about 60% of .03 micron particles and over 90% of 1 micron and 2.5 micron particles."


"in one study, researchers tested particles down to .007 microns (even smaller than viruses) and found that a simple surgical mask blocked 80%."

"... it’s downright surprising that surgical masks are just as effective [as N95 masks]! Maybe virus particles are actually easy to capture because they fly on water droplets.

https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/n95-mask-surgical-prevent-transmission-coronavirus/?rel=1
The fact is that the virus will get in from the openings around the mask if you are close to an unmasked selfish POS. Even an N95 not property fitted and has a gap will allow a little spiked prickly friend to get in. It is just common sense.
N95 Respirators vs Medical Masks for Preventing Influenza Among Health Care Personnel

In this pragmatic, cluster randomized clinical trial involving 2862 health care personnel, there was no significant difference in the incidence of laboratory-confirmed influenza among health care personnel with the use of N95 respirators (8.2%) vs medical masks (7.2%).

I found this study very interesting and optimistic at the same time
 
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lenny2

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@basketcase

Care to respond to this: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/23/mit...ndoors-at-6-feet-or-60-feet-in-new-study.html

“We argue there really isn’t much of a benefit to the 6-foot rule, especially when people are wearing masks,” Bazant said in an interview.

“It really has no physical basis because the air a person is breathing while wearing a mask tends to rise and comes down elsewhere in the room so you’re more exposed to the average background than you are to a person at a distance.”
If "there really isn't much benefit to the 6-foot rule", then he is admitting that there is a benefit to the 6 foot rule with or without masks.

And how much is "much benefit"? Where is his evidence supporting or quantifying this?

If he thinks there's not much difference between being 6 feet away from an infected SP, for example, and 2 feet away or 6 inches away or DFK her, then he's an idiot.

As for his second statement, if you are the lone customer in a store that just opened after being closed all night, & there for a short time, i suggest there is little if anything to be concerned about virus in the environment from the previous day's customers. His statement also doesn't consider virus droplets & aerosols that plunge to the floor at a distance of 6 feet, but at a much closer distance would hit another person's face and infect them.
 

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If he thinks there's not much difference between being 6 feet away from an infected SP, for example, and 2 feet away or 6 inches away or DFK her, then he's an idiot.
It's contradictory that he is so concerned about a mask that stops only 85-90% of the virus instead of the 95% (which is not a big difference at all) that the N95 does but does not worry about how far away 2 people are. To think how far away you are makes no difference is illogical.

As well the statement he is quoting simply says "especially when people are wearing masks", not N95's, just masks.

I think that we'll see him resort to Mancini mode.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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N95 Respirators vs Medical Masks for Preventing Influenza Among Health Care Personnel

In this pragmatic, cluster randomized clinical trial involving 2862 health care personnel, there was no significant difference in the incidence of laboratory-confirmed influenza among health care personnel with the use of N95 respirators (8.2%) vs medical masks (7.2%).

I found this study very interesting and optimistic at the same time
Old study from 2019 has now been discredited and is outdated based on the 2 latest studies
 

squeezer

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Awesome!! Its great that you agree with me 👍

You're a smart guy, squeezer :)
I don't agree with your first statement because you're wrong but I completely agree with you on your second statement and I approve your sig gif!

Please don't complain, 2 out of 3 ain't bad

 
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