Texas Covid cases going down after relaxing mask law coupled with multiple factors
- Thread starter Phil C. McNasty
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BTW if you read that article you quoted the conclusion of you have noticed that those side effects are from using N95 masks and it only only reasonably to assume that any potential health impacts from a normal mask would be worse with a properly fitted N95 mask. I recall folks saying that N95 masks are actually hard to wear.
Also pretty much every health authority in the world disagrees with you, suggesting that masks are useful, but hey some asshat on terb who doesn't know how to analyzes graphs, read studies or just doesn't care knows more than health authorities.
But hey lets play your game.
If you can make claims and even though your claims don't stand the test of analysis you still claim to be right, you are OK if we do the same thing right?
Maybe we should just start making up shit about you and when you said you don't do horrible stuff, we just insist that you said you did and we are right.
Even if everything you said was applicable and accurate, even the contradictory stuff.
Masks will stop viruses within droplets. Even if these droplets evaporate, before they do, they will be stopped. Thus not useless thus you lie.
Even if droplets evaporate, they wouldn't do so instantly. As droplets fall in an arc by the time they do they will be far from the mask area. Thus you lie
Your articles about health care settings which you keep quoting don't apply to someone going to the store. This has been pointed out to you. You lie, You keep quoting articles you haven't read or don't care to read with a view of understanding.
The side effects according to the article you quoted, the text keeps referring to N95 masks, the idea that normal masks cause these ill effects has been debunked ages ago. Again, either you can't read, dont' read or you lie.
Normal masks are helpful. Are they as good as a properly N95. No. But you have provided absolutely NO evidence that they are useless. None. 0
Vaccines are not 100% either, neither are seatbelts or umbrellas in keeping people dry.
Using your line of reasoning one could argue that N95 masks are useless because they don't cover the eyes but shit ain't like that and unlike you, I am not willing to lie and distort to make a point that isn't true.
I also have to wonder about your mental health and if you are being serious 1: Fight this losing cause so hard, I mean what's the point, and 2: Insist you have won when you have not convinced anybody that you are correct. You are going full Fuji and you never go full Fuji.
Oh wait, whats this?? I'm not against social distancing per se, but this guy makes a good argument that even that doesnt always work.
And make sure you guys read the part about the masks:
www.cnbc.com
And make sure you guys read the part about the masks:
MIT researchers say time spent indoors increases risk of Covid at 6 feet or 60 feet in new study challenging social distancing policies
The CDC and WHO guidelines fail to factor in the amount of time spent indoors, which increases the chance of transmission the longer people are inside.
From the article you quoted.Oh wait, whats this?? I'm not against social distancing per se, but this guy makes a good argument that even that doesnt always work.
And make sure you guys read the part about the masks:
MIT researchers say time spent indoors increases risk of Covid at 6 feet or 60 feet in new study challenging social distancing policies
The CDC and WHO guidelines fail to factor in the amount of time spent indoors, which increases the chance of transmission the longer people are inside.
"Masks work in general to prevent transmission by blocking larger droplets, therefore larger droplets aren’t making up the majority of Covid infections because most people are wearing masks. The majority of people who are transmitting Covid aren’t coughing and sneezing, they’re asymptomatic.
Masks also work to prevent indoor transmission by blocking direct plumes of air, best visualized by imagining someone exhaling smoke. Constant exposure to direct plumes of infectious air would result in a higher risk of transmission, though exposure to direct plumes of exhaled air doesn’t usually last long."
Again, you either don't know how to read or you are flat out lying. I wasn't going to read the article because I know your tricks but good to see I've been proved right.
Also regardless of what the study said. You do understand the concept of a meta study right. Either you don't, or you do but being dishonest you have 0 fucks to give.
Phil C McNasty is a liar and or a troll and has actually shown that masks do work and that properly fitted N95 masks are dangerous for regular use
And with that, I will block you. I have no interest with discussing anything with a moron/troll. If I want to talk to someone with special needs, I'll do volunteer work.
Phil C McNasty is a liar and or a troll and has actually shown that masks do work and that properly fitted N95 masks are dangerous for regular use
Read my post" The instructions on the box are basic and as I said it is obvious when you see the general public that they are being used improperly, as evidenced here, some people just can't comprehend what they are reading"Thats horseshit. I wear N95 masks every day, and the instructions on the back of the box are as simple as day.
Here's a screenshot of the back of my box. In fact its so simple a child could do it.
If it was so hard then why do companies sell N95 masks and put the instructions on the back.
Its not brain surgery or anything
And I will counter that with latest study which says surgical masks dont do shit.
Link: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/
Whats good for the goose should be good for the gander
You cant distance on a crowded streetcar, bus or subway either.
Sooner or later you will breathe in infected air, especially since buses and streetcars dont come with HEPA filters like hospitals do.
Anywho, Spring is here, the weather is getting nicer and I'm done arguing all this because I've said all there is to say (and I've backed up my argument with studies, articles and other data). From now on you will only get my standard response which is:
Surgical masks are useless. N95 masks is whats needed.
Have a great day
Link: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/ This "study" has been debunked and defamed by many sources including Stanford and the NIH.
" it’s not a Stanford study, it’s not an NIH study, it’s not really a study, it didn’t really show that face masks are ineffective against the Covid-19 coronavirus, and by the way it didn’t really show that face masks are even harmful. "
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucel...ineffective-against-covid-19/?sh=3faf72ce3fd7
https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pa...udy-claiming-masks-worthless-against-covid-19
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...about-mask-wearing-was-not-stanford-and-make/
You can distance on a streetcar, bus etc stay 6 ft apart, buses here have seats sectioned and covered to make distancing easier for riders.
I still wait for you to post factual studies, articles and other data to back your claims.
Phil thinks that if one virion gets through then the mask is useless. If one virion gets through anybody within 10 will automatically become infected. that is his standard, whether he admits it or not.
Phil is back in Mancini mode. This is all that he's capable of saying.
Instead of responding to an article about it I looked it up on the MIT site, it is more in depth.Oh wait, whats this?? I'm not against social distancing per se, but this guy makes a good argument that even that doesnt always work.
And make sure you guys read the part about the masks:
MIT researchers say time spent indoors increases risk of Covid at 6 feet or 60 feet in new study challenging social distancing policies
The CDC and WHO guidelines fail to factor in the amount of time spent indoors, which increases the chance of transmission the longer people are inside.
https://news.mit.edu/2021/covid-19-risks-indoor-0415
A few key points from the study, 6 feet or 60 feet, if the infected person is not wearing a mask it won't make a difference indoors." Their analysis is based on the fact that in enclosed spaces, tiny airborne pathogen-bearing droplets emitted by people (not wearing masks) as they talk, cough, sneeze, sing, or eat will tend to float in the air for long periods and to be well-mixed throughout the space by air currents."
Also some statements made about masks as well.
"Early in the pandemic, there was less appreciation for the importance of ventilation systems and the use of face masks, which can dramatically affect the safe levels of occupancy, he says."
"For example, they found that while improved ventilation systems and face mask use make a big difference, air filtration systems have a relatively smaller effect on disease spread."
I just double-checked that and nowhere in his study does the author claim its a Stanford study.
What happened was someone looked up his Linkedin page and it said he worked (or studied) at Stanford.
Somebody then contacted Stanford and they were forced to issue a statement saying they were not involved with the study, and that they are strong mask faithers.
So your argument that its not a Stanford backed study is moot, since the author never claimed such.
Oh and BTW: Surgical masks are useless. N95 masks is whats needed
Read this and weep, echo boys:
www.cnbc.com
MIT researchers say time spent indoors increases risk of Covid at 6 feet or 60 feet in new study challenging social distancing policies
The CDC and WHO guidelines fail to factor in the amount of time spent indoors, which increases the chance of transmission the longer people are inside.
I repeat:
“We argue there really isn’t much of a benefit to the 6-foot rule, especially when people are wearing masks,” Bazant said in an interview
“We argue there really isn’t much of a benefit to the 6-foot rule, especially when people are wearing masks,” Bazant said in an interview
One more time:
“We argue there really isn’t much of a benefit to the 6-foot rule, especially when people are wearing masks,” Bazant said in an interview
“We argue there really isn’t much of a benefit to the 6-foot rule, especially when people are wearing masks,” Bazant said in an interview
