European Super league

danmand

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Inter and Atletico Madrid are out
 
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That was the reason for the creation of a Super League, the Sheikdoms and the FSB has skewed the transfer market. Even rich clubs cannot compete.

PSG and Bayern were against the idea, almost for the same reason. PSG are owned by the Sheikh of Qatar while Bayern has just about locked up the region of Bavaria, gifting them the most affluent socio. That's the hypocrisy of the Bundesliga, no other club can compete with Bavarian money and no other club from Bavaria gets beyond relegation zone. The sale of Robert Lewandowski from Dortmund, they could no longer afford him, to Bayern is the prime example.

Then there's the poaching tactic, let a prospective club do all the work then come in with a much bigger offer. That's what Andrea Agnelli fears, Fabio Paratici (Juve transfer director) will set up the sale of Manuel Locatelli only to have Pep break the bank and steal him away. It happened to Roma for Walace, a deal had been set only for Barcelona to pay out $64 million to Gremio to steal him away. He turned out to be a dud and is currently playing for Udinese, not sure if Barca are still paying his wages.

Very interesting read.

Although I do not think the transfer market is the only reason they wanted to create that super league.

I believe their reason were:

1. Own the league. Like Formula 1. That would have give them the right to negotiate broadcasting right and all derived product. Control the money channel to make it flow to them and only them.
2. Avoid relegation and qualification. It's a real issue for these big club owners that they can actually be beaten and knock out by poorer team.
3. Control the player's market. And make sure the best player's do not play anywhere else but their league. Eventually probably control and benefit from their images (buy and control their rights).

They wanted the butter and the money from the butter. Greedy fucking billionaires who think they are above you. In other words they are rich pieces of shit.
 

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Florentino Perez is delusional!!

Florentino Perez REFUSES to give up on European Super League as he insists all 12 clubs signed a 'legally binding contract' and 'nobody has left yet'... while bizarrely suggesting Chelsea protestors were 'taken' to Stamford Bridge

 

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Florentino Perez is delusional!!

Florentino Perez REFUSES to give up on European Super League as he insists all 12 clubs signed a 'legally binding contract' and 'nobody has left yet'... while bizarrely suggesting Chelsea protestors were 'taken' to Stamford Bridge

Lol yes they were Leicester and West Ham fans disguised as Chelsea protesters
 

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I am surprised that Everton even has fans. Fact.
Actually Everton have had the most Season in the top flight of the English Football. They are only second to Arsenal to have the most consecutive seasons in the top flight.
Fans are fans and will always be loyal no matter what, and just a very tiny number will jump ship.
 

Insidious Von

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Milan was lukewarm about the SuperLeague. Paul Singer, ever the Machiavellian, stayed silent while the Glazers, Andrea Agnelli and Florentino Perez stepped in it.

Andrea is not stepping down, no surprise. He probably got a call from his cousin telling him not to be a Big Dummy. Jon Elkann is the brains of Exor, after Sergio Marchionne passed away he ran Fiat-Chrysler himself. He's taking a big gamble though but he kept Ferrari.

 

danmand

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Perez is concerned about the finances of the big clubs.

He just signed Alaba from Bayern with asign-on-fee of 20 to 30 millioner euro, and a weekly salary of 0.5 million euros
 

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These 12 clubs need to be punished by UEFA and their federations, otherwise they will just keep pulling this stunt every few years. The closed shop North American sports league style is never going to fly with fans and media in Europe, it is a completely different sports culture there. Look at the Premier League, Leicester City wins the title a few years back and now West Ham are vying for a Champions League spot, under the system that Perez and the Glazers want this would never happen, absolutely ridiculous selfishness.
 
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Perez is concerned about the finances of the big clubs.

He just signed Alaba from Bayern with asign-on-fee of 20 to 30 millioner euro, and a weekly salary of 0.5 million euros
His concern is that he needs more money!
 

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How Europe's Super League Fell Apart - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

This article is a few hours hold and the NYT seems to have done a lot of in depth reporting of behind the scenes details of the machinations and specific conversations that went into developing the plan, the lies and deceptions to fellow regulators of the game that the would be perpetrators partook of and details of how the plan stupendously fell apart with push back from every corner of the game.

A long read that I found fascinating.
 
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Insidious Von

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Why was it so important for Andrea Agnelli to be onboard? I didn't know that he was the Chairman of the the European Football Clubs Association. He metaphorically slapped himself in the nads.

Bayern and PSG were against a Super League. They have sweetheart deals within their domestic leagues that stunts the development of a major rival. It's not the same in Spain and Italy.

I could go into it in detail but I defer to someone more exalted than myself...All Hail Sid Caesar!

 

danmand

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Why was it so important for Andrea Agnelli to be onboard? I didn't know that he was the Chairman of the the European Football Clubs Association. He metaphorically slapped himself in the nads.

Bayern and PSG were against a Super League. They have sweetheart deals within their domestic leagues that stunts the development of a major rival. It's not the same in Spain and Italy.

I could go into it in detail but I defer to someone more exalted than myself...All Hail Sid Caesar!

The Germans were out because of the ownership rules in Germany. I dunno about PSG

I think the planners were idiots. They have created the problem of the sky high salaries, Real Madrid just signed Alaba from Bayern with a sign-on-fee of 25 million euros, and a weekly salary of 0.5 million euros.

Now they say they cannot live with the high salaries and want to put a cap on. Fuck them.
 

Insidious Von

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Florentino Perez has no scruples, Bayern's socio is way more affluent than Real's. Every other team in Bavaria can only reach promotion level.

The German system is skewed towards Bayern giving them an unfair advantage over everyone else. Good for RB Leipzig for breaking the rules. Pre WW II Lower Saxony was just as rich as Bavaria, but post war politics worked against it. The breaching of The Wall in 1989 started in Leipzig. The second time the city played a prominent role in German history. They were at the forefront of German Unification in 1864 as well. I don't believe that RB Leipzig is the most hated club in Germany...Bayern propaganda.

PSG is owned by the Qatari Royal Family, they could buy all of Ligue 1 if they wanted to. They have no use for a salary cap.

And Leipzig also has Bach, what does Munich have?

 

danmand

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Florentino Perez has no scruples, Bayern's socio is way more affluent than Real's. Every other team in Bavaria can only reach promotion level.

The German system is skewed towards Bayern giving them an unfair advantage over everyone else. Good for RB Leipzig for breaking the rules. Pre WW II Lower Saxony was just as rich as Bavaria, but post war politics worked against it. The breaching of The Wall in 1989 started in Leipzig. The second time the city played a prominent role in German history. They were at the forefront of German Unification in 1864 as well. I don't believe that RB Leipzig is the most hated club in Germany...Bayern propaganda.

PSG is owned by the Qatari Royal Family, they could buy all of Ligue 1 if they wanted to. They have no use for a salary cap.

And Leipzig also has Bach, what does Munich have?

How is the German system skewed towards Bayern?
 

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Some juicy tidbits on the Super League.

European Super League contracts are LEAKED, revealing clubs pulling out face a £130MILLION 'break-up fee' - and haven't left yet, teams would broadcast matches themselves and Real Madrid and Barcelona were to be paid extra £52m more than their rivals
  • Some details of the European Super League contracts have been leaked online
  • It reveals that those clubs who have pulled out face a £130million 'break-up fee'
  • Teams would also be able to broadcast some of their matches themselves
  • Real Madrid and Barcelona were to be paid an extra £52m more than their rivals
  • It comes after UEFA announced the 12 clubs would not face sporting punishment
  • Manchester United have added security after fans stormed their training base
  • Boris Johnson has insisted he didn't know about the Super League until Sunday
  • Super League backers JP Morgan have pulled their £3.5bn of financial support
 

Phil C. McNasty

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This was tried before when the NASL though they could break away from FIFA.

Star players like Franz Beckenbauer and Johan Cruyff were banned from the 1978 WC
Cruyff was never banned from WC1978. He stayed home because of persistent death threats.
 
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