CupidsEscorts Tweets a Client's Information

[frankcastle]

While I (and that's a big I), think I wouldn't have an issue, the "goodness" of a client is based on the SP's opinion. The "reality" of what happened is based on her report to her agency.

I totally agree with the fact that I don't really have anything to worry about and no decent respectable guy should. But for every 99 ladies that are rational, there's 1 that's irrational and what's a non-issue for most is THE issue for her. I think most guys here that are worried are more likely worried about something happening when they encounter this 1 SP versus being concerned about being outed for bad behavior because most guys on here (I believe) are decent and respectable. But once in a while a misunderstanding does occur.

You raise a good point. We don't know what happened between the outed client and the SP nor between the SP and Jillian.

We also don't know what exactly the outed client's bad rep was over (at least I missed that point). Having a rep could mean lots of different things, some of them are not as bad as others. So yes of course if he was known to be violent and Jillian set him up with the SP knowing he was violent that is terribly wrong.

We also don't know if the SP was given a heads up about the client. E.g. "Hey just so you know he threatens bad reviews on terb"

But understandably for some people, knowing that a person was outed is enough for them (and that's fine).

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

If there isn't a balcony maybe you just get put through the glass

I'll just have to make sure I book a room on the 2nd floor..........and bring lots of bandages

 

[frankcastle]

I'll just have to make sure I book a room on the 2nd floor..........and bring lots of bandages

Some people pay extra for that kind of thing

 

[Jasmine Raine]

The ladies have spoken well on this for the last couple of pages. Overall, this really sucks for all the good providers and clients. Fucking bad apples always ruin shit.

Most can see why women needed to change policies regarding screening. Yet you also see in this thread, indies have been labelled as high risk yet it was an agency who outed this man. The way some people's brains work just boggles my mind.

Like I am going to have someone come to my personal home when I don't know their real name or real phone number. I don't do that in my civie life, in my mainstream business so why am I going to do that for a possible new client I know nothing about???? I am not. You move on, and I will move and everyone will be happy. My dance card is always full. I am not worried about losing out.

To the men who use burner phones and think they are safe in their discretion, you keep thinking that honey. That works for me. I have no problem with you being that naive. LOL

For the ladies who want to know what a guy is using phone wise - here you go https://www.textmagic.com/free-tools/carrier-lookup

Best damn carrier lookup out there, and it works for you travelling ladies as well since it is a multi-country lookup system.

As for Andy, we can't clone him so I will have to stick to bear spray. That shit is disgusting. I pray no one is stupid enough to try crap with me. I will willingly dose us both in that crap while we wait for the police.

 

[squeezer]

The ladies have spoken well on this for the last couple of pages. Overall, this really sucks for all the good providers and clients. Fucking bad apples always ruin shit.
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I'll agree to disagree. The ladies (indies) have further convinced me that my decision to mainly spend my money with reputable agencies i.e. Mirage, SexyFriends, JerseyGirls, Hush, Garden Of Eden, Sassy, Minx, TDL just to name the best in Toronto is the way to go when it comes to value and security both for the ladies and the responsible clients.

 

[mandrill]

So far, it's an almost perfect gender gap. Guys fault Cupids for doing what they did and say they fear "outing" will become vigilante justice and widespread. Women are concerned with being victimized by badly behaved, creepy clients and think Cupids outing the stealther was a step towards making bad clients more accountable.

Maybe what we need is a "Code" which makes everybody sort of happy - i.e. an understanding that outing only occurs for certain sorts of behaviour - i.e. a girl cannot simply out a guy she's annoyed at because he posted a bad review or some other triviality - and the information is only made available on a private board to other agencies and ladies. That would allay male fears of having our cell #'s and names splashed all over Twitter because we couldn't make an appointment and the girl was pissed or something like that. But it would also protect the women and give them access to current info about bad clients.

 

[squeezer]

So far, it's an almost perfect gender gap. Guys fault Cupids for doing what they did and say they fear "outing" will become vigilante justice and widespread. Women are concerned with being victimized by badly behaved, creepy clients and think Cupids outing the stealther was a step towards making bad clients more accountable.

Maybe what we need is a "Code" which makes everybody sort of happy - i.e. an understanding that outing only occurs for certain sorts of behaviour - i.e. a girl cannot simply out a guy she's annoyed at because he posted a bad review or some other triviality - and the information is only made available on a private board to other agencies and ladies. That would allay male fears of having our cell #'s and names splashed all over Twitter because we couldn't make an appointment and the girl was pissed or something like that. But it would also protect the women and give them access to current info about bad clients.

Great in a perfect world but how are you going to control a rogue agency owner or an Indy who's snapped, has had a bad day and a bad review or cancellation was the last straw. She is now armed with your real name, your LinkedIn/facebook , you real number, address, probably your significant other's name and decides to tweet away. The answer is you can't! Just look at Aziz Ansari with a civvie date which included obviously consensual oral gone bad because of a miscommunication.

We pay or at least I do for quick access, discretion and drama free beautiful women not for dealing with the pitfalls of civvie dating.

 

[kkelso]

For me, and I think others, this is a crystal clear line. If as a client you do something bad enough to be outed thenit's bad enough to call the police.

KK

 

[sempel]

For me, and I think others, this is a crystal clear line. If as a client you do something bad enough to be outed thenit's bad enough to call the police.

KK

I don't know. I'm under the impression one SP who I've never seen complains about me to others and spreads false rumors. With police I'd say the line is clear. With outing, it's very blurry and the decision to out can rest with the victim which is never a good thing.

 

[mandrill]

Great in a perfect world but how are you going to control a rogue agency owner or an Indy who's snapped, has had a bad day and a bad review or cancellation was the last straw. She is now armed with your real name, your LinkedIn/facebook , you real number, address, probably your significant other's name and decides to tweet away. The answer is you can't! Just look at Aziz Ansari with a civvie date which included obviously consensual oral gone bad because of a miscommunication.

We pay or at least I do for quick access, discretion and drama free beautiful women not for dealing with the pitfalls of civvie dating.

Presumably if there is a "Code", then the rogue girl or agency gets a banning from TERB and other web outlets. This has in fact happened in the past.

 

[peepingtom]

Presumably if there is a "Code", then the rogue girl or agency gets a banning from TERB and other web outlets. This has in fact happened in the past.

but the damage has been done by the rogue agency or girl. so best for me is to not deal with a girl or agency who is known to out their client. Cupid is on the list.

 

[dbiz2]

but the damage has been done by the rogue agency or girl. so best for me is to not deal with a girl or agency who is known to out their client. Cupid is on the list.

Succinctly said.

 

[Dave in Phoenix]

Wow, on lucky 13 pages.

1) Risk analysis (my CPA background) I have been known by many to be a good client for decade+, always safe, respectful etc. My risk of being "outed" is far less than being killed on the flight to Toronto from Phoenix or being killed in an auto accident on the way to an incall.

2) In my 6 cents view: Health and safety of the companion is far more important than the privacy of a bad client that commits assault or maybe rape. Not going to police but trying to handle it within the industry by warning other assured the privacy of the victim was not violated since she may not want a public police report about her profession.

3) WAY BACK on post #3 it is said that only a cell number was given to warn other gals since what used and his "hobby" first name. IF this is correct the posts that claim his name, address etc was posted is not true. It appears that when it was discovered if you researched enough his facebook and Linkedin was found and more of his identity. At that point it appears the tweet was taken down. It appears there was no real personal info in the tweet only clues not known at the time could trace to a real person. The cell number given seems to be his hobby cell. So was a warning to other gals what he might call from.

4) Since it appears to have been an outcall to the jerks home, Cupids had much more personal information (like address!) from the booking. Or if hotel may have confirmed real name with hotel. Cupids apparently only tweeted non-personal info most likey to be recognized by other gals (cell and hobby name not real).

5) It is not know if Cupid knew he was a bad client before the booking, which some folks have assumed. He may have been a "good boy" previously with Cupid or a new client. After the tweet other agencies/gals may have told Cupid about his bad reputation.

6) His admission "I thought she wanted it".... is classic sexual predator speak.

I would have no qualms about using Cupids (have), welcome giving them all my real personal information, and support their attempt to put the safety of companions highest of priorities. As greg83 said, "I'd rather call an agency where the girls are taken care of."

Of course, we do not have all the facts but the negative speculation here and "burning of cupid" seems unreasonable.

 

[mandrill]

Wow, on lucky 13 pages.

1) Risk analysis (my CPA background) I have been known by many to be a good client for decade+, always safe, respectful etc. My risk of being "outed" is far less than being killed on the flight to Toronto from Phoenix or being killed in an auto accident on the way to an incall.

2) In my 6 cents view: Health and safety of the companion is far more important than the privacy of a bad client that commits assault or maybe rape. Not going to police but trying to handle it within the industry by warning other assured the privacy of the victim was not violated since she may not want a public police report about her profession.

3) WAY BACK on post #3 it is said that only a cell number was given to warn other gals since what used and his "hobby" first name. IF this is correct the posts that claim his name, address etc was posted is not true. It appears that when it was discovered if you researched enough his facebook and Linkedin was found and more of his identity. At that point it appears the tweet was taken down. It appears there was no real personal info in the tweet only clues not known at the time could trace to a real person. The cell number given seems to be his hobby cell. So was a warning to other gals what he might call from.

4) Since it appears to have been an outcall to the jerks home, Cupids had much more personal information (like address!) from the booking. Or if hotel may have confirmed real name with hotel. Cupids apparently only tweeted non-personal info most likey to be recognized by other gals (cell and hobby name not real).

5) It is not know if Cupid knew he was a bad client before the booking, which some folks have assumed. He may have been a "good boy" previously with Cupid or a new client. After the tweet other agencies/gals may have told Cupid about his bad reputation.

6) His admission "I thought she wanted it".... is classic sexual predator speak.

I would have no qualms about using Cupids (have), welcome giving them all my real personal information, and support their attempt to put the safety of companions highest of priorities. As greg83 said, "I'd rather call an agency where the girls are taken care of."

Of course, we do not have all the facts but the negative speculation here and "burning of cupid" seems unreasonable.

I happen to know this guy in RL. (Don't ask me... )His real first name, street (but not #) and cell # were given out. I happen to know that is the # he normally uses in RL and has used for several years. So it came up on his LinkedIn. That's pretty complete outing. With the cell, you can find out who it is within a couple of minutes with a simple Google search. The Tweet was probably taken down because Twitter threatened to ban Cupids from its site for breach of its user rules about personal information.

Other girls have privately mentioned to me that he is obsessed with bbfs. So the chances he was a "good boy before" are remote. I believe he was a Cupids regular. He is "big spender" who books multi hour sessions at least once a week. So several of your points are dead wrong.

 

[sempel]

I happen to know this guy in RL. (Don't ask me... )His real first name, street (but not #) and cell # were given out. I happen to know that is the # he normally uses in RL and has used for several years. So it came up on his LinkedIn. That's pretty complete outing. With the cell, you can find out who it is within a couple of minutes with a simple Google search. The Tweet was probably taken down because Twitter threatened to ban Cupids from its site for breach of its user rules about personal information.

Other girls have privately mentioned to me that he is obsessed with bbfs. So the chances he was a "good boy before" are remote. I believe he was a Cupids regular. He is "big spender" who books multi hour sessions at least once a week. So several of your points are dead wrong.

Does it really matter. Most guys are upset at the breach of privacy but the fact remains this guy is guilty. We can all hoo and haw about the privacy issue but most of us (I hope) would never try and do what he did and in general have nothing to worry about. Most of this thread has just been an exercise is discussing hypotheticals.

 

[Jasmine Raine]

I'll agree to disagree. The ladies (indies) have further convinced me that my decision to mainly spend my money with reputable agencies i.e. Mirage, SexyFriends, JerseyGirls, Hush, Garden Of Eden, Sassy, Minx, TDL just to name the best in Toronto is the way to go when it comes to value and security both for the ladies and the responsible clients.

You disagree with what? That people have made it worse for both sides of the industry, LOL.

It is all good. Please, stick with your agencies. Honestly. Enjoy. I find men who insist on agencies are looking for a completely different experience then I want as well. I like being able to decide my time with my clients. I love being able to communicate between appts, speak directly to my clients, decide if I want to go overtime, mutually exchange gifts etc. With my clients, I get a last relationship of all of the good and none of the bad of dating. It works for me.

I am not lost on the irony of your posts tho. You go about about your security with agencies in a thread where an agency outed a client. But hey - you keep thinking that way. By alll means. LOL.

 

[squeezer]

Does it really matter. Most guys are upset at the breach of privacy but the fact remains this guy is guilty. We can all hoo and haw about the privacy issue but most of us (I hope) would never try and do what he did and in general have nothing to worry about. Most of this thread has just been an exercise is discussing hypotheticals.

It does matter! Maybe you're willing to take that chance, I'm not. The next time it maybe a miscommunication or accident and the agency owner decides another outing is necessary. I do not look for bbfs as I value my health but I have been offered and have refused so yes a miscommunication can easily happen.

 

[squeezer]

You disagree with what? That people have made it worse for both sides of the industry, LOL.

It is all good. Please, stick with your agencies. Honestly. Enjoy. I find men who insist on agencies are looking for a completely different experience then I want as well. I like being able to decide my time with my clients. I love being able to communicate between appts, speak directly to my clients, decide if I want to go overtime, mutually exchange gifts etc. With my clients, I get a last relationship of all of the good and none of the bad of dating. It works for me.

I am not lost on the irony of your posts tho. You go about about your security with agencies in a thread where an agency outed a client. But hey - you keep thinking that way. By alll means. LOL.

I'm happy your business model works for you. I choose with my dollars as you choose how you conduct business and so far it seems to be working for both of us don't you think?

 

[Jasmine Raine]

I'm happy your business model works for you. I choose with my dollars as you choose how you conduct business and so far it seems to be working for both of us don't you think?

I don't know about you. I certainly don't put down your model though. Unlike you with indies but hey - different folks do different things.

 

[squeezer]

I don't know about you. I certainly don't put down your model though. Unlike you with indies but hey - different folks do different things.

I'm not sure if you have or haven't but many indies do as Charlotte attempted to do until Mirage thankfully bit back.

Again, your body your business do as you wish and I'll spend my $$$$ as I wish and we all win.