anyone here actually dated an SP long term?

[Eli_H2da]

When I lived in Europe, I dated a woman in her mid-20s who, after a few dates, told me she worked as an in-person receptionist at an agency while completing her MBA. This was 18-19 years ago, long before remote work became commonplace.
Through the same agency, she also went on what she described as "social" dates with foreign businessmen.

Honestly, it didn't bother me. She was making her own money, and quite a lot of it. As long as everything was consensual, safe, and we were honest with each other, I had no issue with it.

About a year later, she finished her MBA and moved into the finance industry, which is where I was working as well. Over time, we gradually drifted apart, largely because our careers became increasingly demanding and we simply didn't see each other very often.
Looking back, what stands out to me is that I never viewed her work as a reflection of her character. She was intelligent, ambitious, financially independent, and focused on building her future.

The honesty between us mattered far more than the way she chose to earn money during that stage of her life.

 

[joeytai]

I don't hate SPs but I dont sugarcoat stuff. I pay them to leave.

Charlie 'the machine' Sheen.

 

[Eli_H2da]

Men forget a SP only thinks about 3 things generally because of the profession she enjoys doing: lying, manipulation and money.

Like 2 Pac said in his song Hellrazor "I learned not to trust the bitch from the prostitutes". Look up what that means, what he's referring to. These women tend to be stuck in the game. Like certain business men view life generally black and white and can't understand grey. They generally view everything transactional.

Every day, I go to the same coffee shop. I treat the people who work there with kindness and respect, even when they get my order wrong. Over time, the service has become more personal, and our understanding of each other's lives has grown. Our interactions come from a place of mutual respect and kindness.
Did they care about me during the first few months? Probably not. But they do now, and I care about them as well.

Being with an SP is no different. If someone is providing a deeply personal service, they are still a human being first. Even if the interaction has clear boundaries and ends when the session is over, you can still choose to treat that person with respect, appreciation, and kindness.

If you consistently approach people that way and build genuine rapport over time, you may discover a side of them that goes beyond the role they are performing. We are all responsible for the energy and attitude we bring into our interactions.
If you approach someone with contempt, objectification, or misogyny, you shouldn't be surprised when the experience reflects that.

So while I disagree with your conclusion, I don't judge you for it. I genuinely hope that one day you'll take a deeper look at your own assumptions and experiences.
Sometimes the common denominator in our negative encounters isn't the people we meet, but the way we choose to engage with them.

 

[SinnamonFairbanks]

It's crazy how the average person or below average person uses this quote from a high value man, one of the most rich and famous people on the planet.

I've actually had welfare scum that lives in garbage say this to me

They can't afford garbage tags to remove the garbage from their home so they live with it...
and they think that's a quote they can repeat with confidence.

I read a report abour their house. Their bathroom was so full of garbage and feces that they couldnt use the bathroom to use the toilet or bathe... so they just didn't bathe. They lived with parasites and holes in their walls that animals died in, and maggots would spill out from the holes

It's funny how people who aren't high value use this quote and high value men dont talk like this.

Charlie sheen was also a drug addict that partied hard and from what I know about people that party is that it's really hard to get those women who are seeking drugs to leave them alone. I actually get hired quite frequently by people who are sick and tired of the types of women that show up seeking drugs. They want and want, and they never leave you alone.

I think context is important.

The average woman would be starstruck by Charlie. An escort that mostly sees celebrities and filthy rich men probably couldnt care less about their status. They see celebrities all day. Everyone they see lives in a mansion and has more money than most.

I'm sure over time. This man has been absolutely smitten with a few women.

If you look at that quote more in depth it's more about a lack of commitment and wanting less pressure on themselves and has nothing to do with the women themselves.

I'm sure now that it is publicly known that he has HIV his attitude towards women has changed... I'm sure he'll take whatever he can get and what he can get is still a lot more than the average person.

He's still has women who would fuck him and be in a relationship with him even though he publicly has HIV. For the average person, if it was publicly known a man had HIV people would shun them. They would get no pussy, and even if call girls knew that they would say "no". Only the most desperate would take the call from the guy who publicly has HIV.

Charlie Sheen can still get whatever pussy he wants and the average joe probably couldn't even get a call girl to show up if it was known they had HIV

You're comparing apples to yachts.

It is also a new trend, where women are calling out men who use women and are womanizers for not being comfortable with their true sexuality identity and they very clearly are into other men.

It turns out Charlie probably never even liked pussy to begin with

You are quoting a man who is now in a relationship with another man

You are quoting a man who is a homosexual about his attitudes towards women in Hollywood as a rich and famous closeted gay man.

Charlie 'the machine' Sheen.

 

[DesRicardo]

I swear every month a Dating an SP thread pops up.

 

[StarryeyedA]

10 years ago, I dated an SP I met through an agency. Less than a year later, those events and difficulties made me the person I am today. I lay my money on the table. I get my dick sucked. I fuck a hot young lady. Dump my load. Sometimes I feel good about it. Sometimes I regret the money I just wasted. The only thing that’s common is I leave and carry on with my day and thank fuck, I come home to peace and quiet. And then I peruse agencies and LL for my next appointment.

Sad and lonely? Nah. I love not having to concern anyone but myself about what I do next.

“Sad and lonely? Nah. I love not having to concern anyone but myself about what I do next.”

I mean… me too! Nothing wrong with living life on your terms. Definitely no one is saying there is anything wrong with that. I also come home to peace and quiet.

 

[StarryeyedA]

The only thing I worry about is my furry friend is taken care of when I come home and he’s happy to see me. Life is good.

and that is okay.
I would have a house full of furry friends if I could.

 

[StarryeyedA]

Don't give up on that dream ever. Hopefully you make 6 figures like your friend does as she stated in that other topic. Move some funds around to invest and more furry friends could happen.

Like my girl T-Swift says "Be yourself, chase your dreams, and just never say never. That's the best advice I could ever give someone.”


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I’m already doing that sweetheart! Appreciate the sentiment though?? I hope the same for you.

 

[Eli_H2da]

Don't give up on that dream ever. Hopefully you make 6 figures like your friend does as she stated in that other topic. Move some funds around to invest and more furry friends could happen.

Like my girl T-Swift says "Be yourself, chase your dreams, and just never say never. That's the best advice I could ever give someone.”


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Other people making six-figure incomes seems to bother you quite a bit. Again, I don't think you're doing it intentionally, but it may be worth taking a step back and reflecting on why that is.

If you're unhappy with where you're at financially, ask yourself what's contributing to it. Is it a lack of education, a lack of hustle, poor decisions or some combination of those factors?

Constantly focusing on what other people earn isn't likely to improve your own situation. Self-reflection usually provides more value than comparison.

 

[Eli_H2da]

" Constantly focusing on what other people earn isn't likely to improve your own situation. Self-reflection usually provides more value than comparison. "

Learn what "constantly" means and try to comprehend things in a thread before blindly posting things.

I mentioned income once in here so far about 6 figures. Nice try to twist things around.

I very much enjoy dating women and getting to know them. Once I see certain red flags I move on. Currently, I'm just happy single and will indulge in sex when I desire. My financial status won't be mentioned on here, but it's well.

And once again someone else is twisting my words and thoughts based on some America topic. Judgmental much?

You’ve mentioned income, "deep pockets," six-figure earners, and spending $500+ client playing video games multiple times now.
Whether you realize it or not, it comes across as envy or resentment toward women who are able to earn a significant income while genuinely enjoying what they do.

It may be worth recognizing that this is 2026. Women have the same rights and opportunities as men, and many have built successful careers and businesses through their own efforts.

To recognize red flags in others, you first need a solid understanding of human interactions and behavior. Based on the tone of many of your posts, that seems to be a bit of a blind spot for you.
At times, that lack of understanding can come across as loneliness or frustration, which may unintentionally lead to resentment toward people whose choices or success you don't fully understand.

 

[Eli_H2da]

" To recognize red flags in others, you first need a solid understanding of human interactions and behavior. "

Oh wow, I didn't know I needed a degree to see red flags. I guess after dating someone for weeks and learning they blow everything for today and me wanting out by seeing that red flag doesn't count cause I don't have a degree in red flags.

" Based on the tone of many of your posts, that seems to be a bit of a blind spot for you. "

Yes, you read my posts in a wrong tone. Probably a very mean tone. That's you basing judgement. Certain posts I make I use emojis at times not always cause it's a laughable post. People wanna take my laughable post the wrong way have at it. I sleep well at night over those who lack to comprehend things. People who 180 my comments like in the America topic are laughable too.

I think some users on here lack sleep and are on certain substances daily. You take a simple post and twist it around to fit some negative agenda about someone. Meh...I laugh at most of those folks lmfao.

Based on your posts in this thread and others, it comes across as though you lack insight into your own behavior. That leads me to believe you struggle to have normal interactions without defaulting to the most negative interpretation of people and situations.

If most people are reading your posts the same way, then it's on you to address that. You own your communication. If your tone consistently offends or alienates people, the responsibility lies with you, not everyone else.

Again, you assume these women are overworked, unhappy, or using substances. Why is that your default assumption? Is it because believing that makes you feel better about your decision to see them? Does it make them seem "less than" in your mind and therefore reduce any feelings of guilt or shame you might have?
I'm not judging you. I'm genuinely trying to understand why you seem so invested in framing these women negatively when there is little evidence to support those assumptions.

It may be worth reflecting on whether those assumptions are based on reality or on your own biases and insecurities.

 

[Eli_H2da]

When I said " I think some users on here lack sleep and are on certain substances daily. "

I'm referring to some of the men on here not even the ladies. Once again keyword: some

I don't white knight, I tell things how I see them. If I'm wrong on things then I admit it. Or if it's a debate with no outcome I shrug and move on.

"Again, you assume these women are overworked, unhappy, or using substances"

I never leaned towards this. I've said some or most in certain topics based on my perspective (Maybe 1 or 2 topics if that). I never said ladies in this industry are unhappy. Some may enjoy the work and enjoy the sex. Others probably dislike men and of course do it solely for easy money. I didn't bring up their substances if they even do it. Those that do won't admit it on here.

It read as though you were referring to the women, and the "some" comment came across as an attempt to walk that back. Maybe that wasn't your intention, but that's how I interpreted it, and I suspect many others would as well. The reason is simple: we weren't discussing other OPs at the time, so the most obvious reading was that you were referring to the SPs.

You don't need to white-knight anyone. I'm simply asking you to think about what you're writing before you post it and to take responsibility for your communication. That's it. Nothing more.

You've made similar comments in previous threads, including one where you brought up Locanto and ads posted there. What I don't understand is why you'd bring that subject up at all when there was no reference to it in the discussion.
It feels less like not a relevant point and more like an assumption you're injecting into the conversation.

My point isn't that you're not allowed to have an opinion. It's that when multiple people interpret your comments the same way, it's worth considering whether the issue is with the wording rather than the audience.
We all own how we communicate, and if our message consistently comes across differently than intended, it's reasonable to reflect on why that may be happening.


Overall, your comments come across as misogynistic.

 

[Eli_H2da]

Misogynistic? If that's how you feel then that's how you feel. I say otherwise. Many ladies said the same thing about Eminem too and others.

My post #26 also stands out. When I'm debating or arguing in a professional manner online and someone attacks users with verbal hate then another user in this topic preaches love.

You can justify that however you like. I'm not the one who used vulgar words showing hatred towards someone else's opinions.

Yes, by quoting Charlie Sheen, a well-known misogynist, you inevitably associate yourself with that reference. Fair or not, that's how communication works.

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"Kind human? Wow way to be manipulative. Your friend in another topic lashed out at me and another user name calling being rude. Don't preach stuff like that hypocrite.

When in the topic all we did was voice things based on our perspective. Then you twist our words around and try to make us look negative for saying things based on our experiences. "

There is nothing particularly professional about this argument or the way you've chosen to present your opinion, so I don't think professionalism is really the standard we're applying here.

No, I'm not saying you're incapable of having an opinion. What I'm saying is that, based on your posts, you often come across as someone with a chip on their shoulder and a certain level of disdain toward women and SPs.

Whether that's your intention or not is a separate issue.

The reality is that perception matters. If the same themes keep appearing in your posts and multiple people interpret them similarly, it may be worth considering why that is.

 

[Eli_H2da]

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And what did Charlie Sheen say that I said? Sorry I don't follow all these celebs like some of you do. Reference the quote.

I'm not sure what that snippet has to do with what I'm actually saying or pointing out. You frequently steer the conversation back to income, wealth, "deep pockets," and what other people income is, why?

And you obviously do. but it's your post 20. You keep referencing early and mid-90s rappers, and in post #38 you referred to a "deep-pocketed" wealthy person with HIV. I think most people can figure out who you're alluding to.

What I'm actually curious about, though, is why you communicate this way.

Is it shame? Is it resentment? Is it some need to attach negative traits to people you're discussing?

Because from the outside, it often feels like you're making these references for a reason, but then acting surprised when people draw conclusions from them.

Communication isn't just about what you intended to say. It's also about how a reasonable reader is likely to interpret what you wrote.
If the same pattern keeps showing up in your posts, it's fair for people to ask what message you're really trying to convey.

I'm genuinely asking, not trying to attack you: what are you hoping to achieve by repeatedly framing people through these kinds of references and assumptions?
That's the part I find most interesting.

 

[philonius]

I thought I might see what other people have experienced re: the OP topic but then I just it just turned into a 4-page manifesto about a disgruntled client who thinks all providers are subhuman or something ffs.

Anyway, I've never had a relationship with an sp but have been offered/hinted at it by three I've seen. One became a constant inter-session texting thing (interspersed with the odd payment-refused session) that I had to break off and the other two were offers of seeing each other on social time outside of sessions, both of which I am not interested in. They all might have made good GFs and it doesn't bother me that they're in this industry, but it's just not what I'm looking for.

 

[breeziebaby]

i think it could work as long as there is clear communication, i feel like most relationships fail because of unspoken expectations due to poor communication.
and i truly think the poor communication stems from not being able to be honest with yourself first and foremost

much like a normal relationship you don’t want it to interfere with your work so how should this industry be any different?
^in regards to green square making it so evidently clear that all providers want is money.

i don’t think there’s many people on this planet wishing to be poor?

 

[kyle 12]

I've dated strippers and escorts (one prominate one on here). Currently seeing a stripper again. Don't fall in love amd your good