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roger20

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Familiarity breeds contempt. Two ships passing in the night is one thing, but what if you want to end things when it is not convenient for her? What if there are excessive and unreasonable demands? What if she threatens you? Maybe things do not work out and she comes back to threaten you 5 or 10 years down the road?
True which is why neither my real name, phone number or email are used in any communication... I just need to remember to pay attention when they call "my name" but other than that it's pretty easy to circumvent the threat of intrusion into real life.
 

Titalian

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Getting attached is normal, you're seeing someone weekly for months, it's bound to happen depending on your personality as regular meets will do that! Ummmm, offer to help her get a job or another better paying job? Obviously you're not going to support her forever so she needs that anyways and that's more help then the grand you're handing her. If she accepts the offer and still wants to see you then what you have is genuine and you can discuss reducing the money as she doesn't need it as much anymore, if she doesn't and is happy just taking money from you (and others?) then that's your answer! You're still with an escort (or sugar baby).
Interesting perspective.
 

ExoticCharmer

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EC, I don't think the 'cheaper' SB route is a ready option.
I will be post an update after tomorrow, I have 6 coffee dates lined up.
Here's the summary:

- Started texting all of them prior to coffee date to finalize details, I tried initiating a convo with all of them just to feel them out and build some rapport.
- Found out one girl is a model with super high expectations ($1,000/hr) so I canceled the date.
- One girl didn't show up. No text. No apology. Nothing. So she's now blocked.
- One girl couldn't show up, she let me know well in advance and apologized. We've rescheduled for next weekend.
- Of the 3 girls I did end up meeting. Two of them are potentials, will start planning first dates within the next couple weeks. The last girl was damaged from a previous SD relationship, so that's a no go.

In addition, I now have a steady stream of SBs approaching me now. One of which, has offered a 3-some, so that should be interesting.

In closing, to reply to GPIDEAL, you need some patience with SBs but they're out there. At this point, I have 1 solid SB whom I've met already and 2 potentials, with another 20 lined up for screening.

PS: It seems that being single is a big plus for SBs. Some of them have a conscience and don't want to be the cause for a break up/divorce.
 

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I think sb relationships end very badly for the most part.
 

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I think sb relationships end very badly for the most part.
Based on what references? Personal experience? Literature? Your gut feeling?
 

yababy1

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I think sb relationships end very badly for the most part.
My opinion and experience says they end for different reasons of course but the biggest IMHO is a hot young girl and an older guy, guess who moves on first> When she isnt with you, what is she doing? yep, what young girls do. Clubbing, keggers, dating etc Meeting guys her age, fucking them for free etc. After a bit aka, the money isnt as fast and free as it was, you are gone, left frustrated, maybe, heart broken, maybe but odds are it is you getting dumped not vice versa.
One other point, I now know several SB's who I did not involve myself with plus the ones I did. Rule of thumb, if she has you, she has several of you. The money is their motivation so more the merrier no matter what she promises. Given several or many "clients", what is the difference between that SB and an SP,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the SP is way cheaper, less drama and you know the game in advance and have complete control

Just my thoughts
 

Titalian

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I think sb relationships end very badly for the most part.
My opinion and experience says they end for different reasons of course but the biggest IMHO is a hot young girl and an older guy, guess who moves on first> When she isnt with you, what is she doing? yep, what young girls do. Clubbing, keggers, dating etc Meeting guys her age, fucking them for free etc. After a bit aka, the money isnt as fast and free as it was, you are gone, left frustrated, maybe, heart broken, maybe but odds are it is you getting dumped not vice versa.
One other point, I now know several SB's who I did not involve myself with plus the ones I did. Rule of thumb, if she has you, she has several of you. The money is their motivation so more the merrier no matter what she promises. Given several or many "clients", what is the difference between that SB and an SP,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the SP is way cheaper, less drama and you know the game in advance and have complete control

Just my thoughts
Obviously the key here is not to get too emotionally involved, and being realistic with expectations. If you are getting what you want in a physical sense then enjoying it and just run with it till it ends.
In the mean time, keep searching out new prospects, it will keep your mind busy and avoid you of thinking of one in particular.
 

lomotil

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Based on what references? Personal experience? Literature? Your gut feeling?
In the end, you are only paying for lip service and setting yourself up for a predictable betrayal based on two out of three references, observations but not personal experience, although one day I may become vulnerable.
 

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After a bit of a learning curve I have positive experiences for the most part, enjoying skilled amateurs for for an average of $300 for 3 or 4 hours. I'm talking nurses, day care workers etc.
The SA site is half escorts and half "others". I even met one of top the market MPA ( well reviewed on Terb). I am a widower it is easy more me and by sticking the amateurs both parties have an equal amount to lose so it keeps every body honest for the most part.
It's similar to dating and escort sites though, 25% of the pictures are 10 years old or retouched.
Excellent if you are a 905'er and don't want to go downtown because you can set your search to 10 kms of home. I am continual surprised at how many women do this. It's uber for the sex industry.
 

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. At some point she decided to stop escorting, but gave me her private number telling me she wanted to continue with me, and only me. We longly talked and I believe her I'm the only one she continued with.
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You are paying her for sex, she hasn't stopped escorting by definition. If she developed feelings for a real relationship, she would stop taking the money.

In terms of of SB relationships, I had a couple of successes, but I won't be repeating bc the weeding process takes much too long - at least 5-10 hr investment to even find a good candidate (who might then flake out quickly). And if your standards for attractiveness are a little higher? Oh boy, prepare to get in line. Find an agency sp you like and negotiate something - much more efficient. I say agency and not independent bc the latter tend to be full-timers anyway, so there's not much incentive for them to cut rates
 

ExoticCharmer

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Just a follow up question for shack, GB, and others who have found SB's for $300/evening. Were there other costs associated with the date?.. Longer hours means... dinner, snacks, shopping?
 

Danielle@SFT

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As a female who was once on these sites, getting true amateurs who have low financial expectations is hard because for most females once you find out that sex is expected, you typically go research the escort world (if your okay with pay for play) and realize you would be making more.
 

roger20

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Just a follow up question for shack, GB, and others who have found SB's for $300/evening. Were there other costs associated with the date?.. Longer hours means... dinner, snacks, shopping?
Nothing that was expected, we usually go out to eat first and I've occasionally bought a dress or shoes or whatever for whomever I'm with. Not because it was expected but because I believed that if she was getting what she wanted and saw value in the partnership, she'd reciprocate in the only way I needed her to. Worked out every single time!

I've almost met a couple girls who expected gifts and money just for meeting... I'd never do that
 

Gentle2her

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You are paying her for sex, she hasn't stopped escorting by definition. If she developed feelings for a real relationship, she would stop taking the money
Nothing new here. That's exactly the conclusion I came down to:
I proposed to help her (a bit over $1k per month), and she was comfortable with it. So without naming it, what we are in is basically a SD/SB relationship.

Find an agency sp you like and negotiate something - much more efficient. I say agency and not independent bc the latter tend to be full-timers anyway, so there's not much incentive for them to cut rates
That's exactly it. Except SHE found me, not the other way around! :)

Getting attached is normal, you're seeing someone weekly for months, it's bound to happen depending on your personality as regular meets will do that! Ummmm, offer to help her get a job or another better paying job? Obviously you're not going to support her forever so she needs that anyways and that's more help then the grand you're handing her. If she accepts the offer and still wants to see you then what you have is genuine and you can discuss reducing the money as she doesn't need it as much anymore, if she doesn't and is happy just taking money from you (and others?) then that's your answer! You're still with an escort (or sugar baby).
Excellent suggestion. I'll try to help her out a different way.

Thanks all for your comments
 

DeadFish

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I know a girl in RL that is a SB. Most of these SB have multiple SD, not just one. A good looking SB milks multiple SD without bringing sex into the equations.
If anything SB are hustlers, at least SP relationships are honest.
Most SB have really high expectations and also bring a lot of drama into the relationship.
$1k a month is still fairly decent, however I doubt SB would settle for anything less than 5K-10K cash from all their SD combine.
on another note, are you guys not apprehensive about bait and switch with SB? or fake ID scams on SB website? or the private info leaked recently on a SB/SD website?
 

Gentle2her

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As a female who was once on these sites, getting true amateurs who have low financial expectations is hard because for most females once you find out that sex is expected, you typically go research the escort world (if your okay with pay for play) and realize you would be making more.
From a woman's perspective, isn't the SB/SD relationship something totally different though? You don't have to deal with multiple individuals, with people you don't know. You can get to know, like, trust your partner? You can drop your guard and be much more relaxed with your partner... Obviously if you were the kind of princess others are hinting about that's another story (and I'm NOT saying you are, I don't know you!). The SB life would just not apply to your expectations.

From my very limited experience with a SB (who was an agency SP before), I see A LOT of differences (and she tells me so). It doesn't look like the same beast at all.
 

i am one

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How are you guys paying for your SA membership? Your legit personal cc? I'm imagining a worst case scenario where the site makes it difficult to cancel or my cc info gets stolen.
 

Danielle@SFT

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From a woman's perspective, isn't the SB/SD relationship something totally different though? You don't have to deal with multiple individuals, with people you don't know. You can get to know, like, trust your partner? You can drop your guard and be much more relaxed with your partner... Obviously if you were the kind of princess others are hinting about that's another story (and I'm NOT saying you are, I don't know you!). The SB life would just not apply to your expectations.

From my very limited experience with a SB (who was an agency SP before), I see A LOT of differences (and she tells me so). It doesn't look like the same beast at all.
When I looked for a SD on seeking arrangements most of the men on there seemed to be guys looking for a bargain. Absolutely true sugar relationships exist, but I never came across it on the site. I would get lowball offers (150 for a night), bbfs requests, violent guys who were blacklisted by other sugar babies contacting me.

I think a true sb/sd relationship is better off beginning organically. Because your spending a lot of time with this person and putting more trust into them (real name, maybe house location etc).
 

Danielle@SFT

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From a woman's perspective, isn't the SB/SD relationship something totally different though? You don't have to deal with multiple individuals, with people you don't know. You can get to know, like, trust your partner? You can drop your guard and be much more relaxed with your partner... Obviously if you were the kind of princess others are hinting about that's another story (and I'm NOT saying you are, I don't know you!). The SB life would just not apply to your expectations.

From my very limited experience with a SB (who was an agency SP before), I see A LOT of differences (and she tells me so). It doesn't look like the same beast at all.
When I looked for a SD on seeking arrangements most of the men on there seemed to be guys looking for a bargain. Absolutely true sugar relationships exist, but I never came across it on the site. I would get lowball offers (150 for a night), bbfs requests, violent guys who were blacklisted by other sugar babies contacting me. Even the guys promising an allowance wanted a free "test drive" after which I'm sure you would never see them again.

I think a true sb/sd relationship is better off beginning organically. Because your spending a lot of time with this person and putting more trust into them (real name, maybe house location etc) and like you said it's like a regular dating relationship. You have to really connect with the person for it to work.
 
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