Anyone have experience with Sugar Baby relationships?

[ExoticCharmer]

Wow, I'm surprised how many views this thread has gotten.. Guess a lot of people interested but not many have delved into it..

Guess I'll provide a little update on my end; based on the responses of the 200 girls, there are 4 types of girls:
- Girls who will have sex on coffee date (~1%) <<<<<< I'm a little hesitant on these girls
- Girls who will have sex on first date (~49%) <<<<<< Most of my time focused on there, setting up coffee dates to see if we click then will schedule first dates following that.
- Girls who won't have sex on first date (~20%) <<<<<< I guess some play hard to get..
- Girls who won't have sex at all (~30%) <<<<<< Who the hell pays for a platonic relationship.... ?

Stages:
1. Messaging on website
2. Set up coffee date (free) <<<<<< I'm currently at this stage
3. Set up first date
4. Set up follow up dates

 

[Titalian]

Interesting. I had a SB in Vancouver. It most certainly was not practical but OMG she was the most beautiful girl I had seen in decades. Absolutely stunning and a complete 10 . The sex was unreal though. And which contributed to my complete lack of business sense and common sense for the time we were together. She originally was a SP with a local escort agency and that was how we had met. Looking back now it was not a good idea on a practical scale. I knew then it wouldn't last and her financial demands kept increasing with no linear value in relationship nor with an increase in sex. Then it became demands for more money and no return for me, and her couldn't give a shit attitude, and is why it all ended and crashed. I Probably should have ended it 6 months earlier. Lots of lies, deception and bullshit involved as well. Bang for the buck ? Way better off with an hourly SP no question though the sex was unreal and how do you put a value on that ? Having said that I'm much the wiser and if I can find a non-pro I may just try it - albeit with a much better defined sense of what I want and won't put up with .

In a SD/SB situation right now. Things started off great. As time has gone by, she seems to want more money, and less sex. Think it's time to cut bait.

I truly believe these two versions in the outcomes of these fixed and negotiated long term relationships. Why do it, is my question? Its only sex. I don't get it.
Get to know some good providers that relate to you and you to them. Let it grow from there. Trust is the key here. And never get caught up in a long term engagements no matter what.

 

[Adam_hadam]

I did it and the best way is to treat your babies like discarded paper towels when you are done with them. Many more fresh faces out there. Respect is over rated.

 

[ExoticCharmer]

Why do it, is my question? Its only sex. I don't get it.

Here's the way I see it, for the same price as an SP (or less if you can get GB's or Shack's pricing). I can meet and socialize with an SB, prior to bedroom play. Whether or not sex is as good as an SP is up for debate but I like the foreplay outside of the bedroom..

 

[shack]

The second was a scam artist, she asked $200 per date, but she wanted to get "comfortable" before getting intimate... by the end of the second date she didn't even want to kiss, so bye-bye ... another $400 wasted

That sounds exactly like one that I met. A slim blonde girl around 19 or 20?

 

[Titalian]

Here's the way I see it, for the same price as an SP (or less if you can get GB's or Shack's pricing). I can meet and socialize with an SB, prior to bedroom play. Whether or not sex is as good as an SP is up for debate but I like the foreplay outside of the bedroom..

And you think you can't get that from providers/escorts. These women your associating with on SB, How many more of you, does she have?

 

[james t kirk]

Not sure why anyone would be interested in this. Paying for sex is one thing; it's uncomplicated. But having a sugar baby is like paying for a relationship, which is just so wrong. It's not real. Maybe some people could blind themselves to that fact and so enjoy it, but I certainly wouldn't be able to.

Agreed.

I can respect a good SP. Really I can.

But I have no respect for a sugar baby. Probably because they are pedaling a pay for relationship type scenario.

 

[i am one]

How long are your dates?

SA is fairly popular in America and on some of the American forums guys are reporting that a 3-4 hour date for a $200 (USD) is typical.

 

[ExoticCharmer]

These women your associating with on SB, How many more of you, does she have?

Just like with SPs, I imagine some have many while others have a few.

 

[Titalian]

Just like with SPs, I imagine some have many while others have a few.

So in a sense there's really no difference, except for the long term aspect. Just like an escort on a retainer.

 

[GPIDEAL]

You can get emotionally involved with her (just like she can with you).

If not ever-increasing demands, it might be the opposite: decreasing interest and aloofness or detachment, which might piss you off.

 

[james t kirk]

If not ever-increasing demands, it might be the opposite: decreasing interest and aloofness or detachment, which might piss you off.

Sounds like a marriage

 

[Titalian]

Sounds like a marriage

Lol, yes.

 

[Don Draper]

Has anybody here just found a university girl willing to be an occasional private escort for maybe $100-$150 an evening? A civilian you see once or twice a month who doesn't really grasp - or have any interest in - the industry?
Frugal E (always dreaming)

This is often the case.

The truth is that you have to let her think of herself as a GF, not a sugar baby.

A more mature Lady in her 30's or 40's is wonderful for continual companionship but when the relationship no longer suits you (insecurities, unreasonable demands, calculating mindset) then it's good to have the younger option always readily available. You should keep her close but not too close.

You don't actually exchange $$$ with a university student in transactional fashion. It's gifts exactly in the same manner of a romantic relationship.

 

[Titalian]

This is often the case.

The truth is that you have to let her think of herself as a GF, not a sugar baby.

A more mature Lady in her 30's or 40's is wonderful for continual companionship but when the relationship no longer suits you (insecurities, unreasonable demands, calculating mindset) then it's good to have the younger option always readily available. You should keep her close but not too close.

You don't actually exchange $$$ with a university student in transactional fashion. It's gifts exactly in the same manner of a romantic relationship.

Don judging from your pics you definitely like them young, not that there's anything wrong with that. This is your preference. As for me with the young ones I have repeated time and time again
other than a good fuk, I have nothing in common with them. For me there is a big difference in your thoughts driving home after the encounter with a mature woman. Lets just say I did my time
with younger women when I was young and there were plenty. At my age sex is always important but coupled with maturity makes it extra ordinary. Jmts

 

[Don Draper]

Don judging from your pics you definitely like them young, not that there's anything wrong with that. This is your preference. As for me with the young ones I have repeated time and time again, other than a good fuk, I have nothing in common with them. For me there is a big difference in your thoughts driving home after the encounter with a mature woman. Lets just say I did my time
with younger women when I was young and there were plenty. At my age sex is always important but coupled with maturity makes it extra ordinary. Jmts

I wholeheartedly agree, my esteemed colleague.

The mature, elegant Lady is the one that will go to the Opera or Theatre with you. The one you can take to NYC or the Caribbean for a weekend or to a formal function where she will meet your colleagues and friends. She'll know how to dress and present herself and reflect on you like the gem she is. Sex with the mature woman is also wonderful as she knows how to please you and is emotionally invested in that you are satisfied with her and her attention. The younger girl will enjoy sex just as much although not as experienced in it.

As often can be the case, eventually the more mature woman will make demands as she feels more comfortable in the relationship. It is absolutely my decision how willing I am to meet those demands. If they suit me, that's just fine. If they don't, then that romantic chapter requires a swift and quick resolution.

There is no shortage of women past the age of 30 that do not want to have dinner alone. They fear aging with an impending sense of dread and live in horror of ending up alone. As a single, interesting man, these women present themselves in my life with the ease of an effortless gesture. If a relationship lasts, that's great. If not, the readily available option of a sweet and attentive university student is a wonderful 'Plan B'.

Presently, she's a sweet and lovely young lady that attends one of the downtown post secondary educational institutions whom I met at my local patisserie that makes a great latte.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Sounds like a marriage

Lol, yes.

I was talking more aloofness or detachment from HER part but guess you can say the same about a marriage, lol. Oh geez.

 

[GPIDEAL]

I wholeheartedly agree, my esteemed colleague.

The mature, elegant Lady is the one that will go to the Opera or Theatre with you. The one you can take to NYC or the Caribbean for a weekend or to a formal function where she will meet your colleagues and friends. She'll know how to dress and present herself and reflect on you like the gem she is. Sex with the mature woman is also wonderful as she knows how to please you and is emotionally invested in that you are satisfied with her and her attention. The younger girl will enjoy sex just as much although not as experienced in it.

As often can be the case, eventually the more mature woman will make demands as she feels more comfortable in the relationship. It is absolutely my decision how willing I am to meet those demands. If they suit me, that's just fine. If they don't, then that romantic chapter requires a swift and quick resolution.

There is no shortage of women past the age of 30 that do not want to have dinner alone. They fear aging with an impending sense of dread and live in horror of ending up alone. As a single, interesting man, these women present themselves in my life with the ease of an effortless gesture. If a relationship lasts, that's great. If not, the readily available option of a sweet and attentive university student is a wonderful 'Plan B'.

Presently, she's a sweet and lovely young lady that attends one of the downtown post secondary educational institutions whom I met at my local patisserie that makes a great latte.

Sounds like I need to read Don Draper's Guide to Picking Up Women lol.

 

[ExoticCharmer]

So in a sense there's really no difference, except for the long term aspect. Just like an escort on a retainer.

I'm primarily going down the SB route because of the $$ saved.

I just got home from a 5 hour date, which was $450 (including cost of lunch). She looks similar to Cindy from JG (check my posts for my review on her), basically curvy hourglass with natural DDDs. Lunch was 1.5 hours and play was 3.5 hours, which is basically how I would've spent 5 hours with an SP anyways. Except.. 5 hours from JG is $1000 (without food).

As far as sex goes, BBBJ was decent, DFK was good and everything else was great. Experience was similar to meeting a new SP to the industry, except with more intimacy since emotion is on the table as well.

Maybe I got lucky for my first date but if all the other girls are like this, SB is a very viable option for me...

NOTE: While I did save $$, I had to instead spend a lot of time texting back and forth, meeting for coffee first, etc. In the end, I think it was worth it though.

 

[GPIDEAL]

EC, I don't think the 'cheaper' SB route is a ready option.

You must be lucky to discover such a gal but, I find that you may 'cultivate' an SB from someone in the industry (develop a rapport), where they don't watch the clock like an agency gal or indy with an active or busy schedule.