Anyone have experience with Sugar Baby relationships?

[ExoticCharmer]

From what I can see, it requires about the same amount of time as a girlfriend except, you're replacing emotions with money?

Also, for those of you who have been with sugar babies and SPs, which do you prefer?

 

[hyperdog]

If time is not something you can afford to waste, then simply take half-hour breaks with SPs. No nightly obligatory phone calls needed.

 

[notthemama]

I tried it. I thought it would be a bit like having a lawyer on retainer. No strings.
Wrong.
Demanding, ever increasing needs. Finally when I said no more she threatened to expose what was going on.
I don't have anyone to hide from, go ahead.
More trouble than it's worth.
See an annonamous SP. See her a lot if you want.
Don't do the manipulative sugar baby that thinks she has you all wrapped up.

 

[Butler1000]

Remember a Sugar baby has an investment I'm maintaining the relationship. And any girl that sees becoming a sugar baby as a viable option probably also sees sex as a weapon, as well as emotional manipulation.

Guys who think it will be all peaches and cream, they will be in control, no emotions involved are naive. It's inevitable between human beings.

If money isn't an issue go for the variety. I'm sure you will develop ATF's and that's fine too.

 

[kkelso]

From what I can see, it requires about the same amount of time as a girlfriend except, you're replacing emotions with money?

Also, for those of you who have been with sugar babies and SPs, which do you prefer?

It depends on what you want. I've seen SPs for years, but I've had two sugar babies as well. They are different arrangements.

SPs, are more about just sex. You get variety, not even a suggestion of a commitment, and essentially pay-for-play. They are also relative low-risk, no up-front money and if they don't show you're not out a dime.

With SBs there's more of a chance to hang out and develop a sense of intimacy (genuine or not, who's to say?) You make a bit of a commitment, perhaps a monthly allowance up-front, and in return you get consistency and a lesser chance that the lady will just drop off the radar because she's having a bad week or she met a cute guy. SBs require more planning and scheduling, but in general your expense per sex act is lower.

I've loved both. I'm currently in a SB relationship because I have so little time for R&R I want to make sure that what I have counts. I need to plan dates weeks in advance due to my job, and I need to be reasonably sure the woman will show up. The SB scene in Toronto is rich and varied.

KK

 

[oral.com]

I've done the SD/SB thing on and off the past. I've met some amazing girls and I've been horribly burned too. The dating is fun, when the attraction is mutually genuine its like being in love. Make no mistake about it, it's more complicated and a lot more expensive than an SP relationship. I still see one of my former SBs, as FWB relationship, ( that's nuts because she has a boyfriend)

I like the Seeking Arrangements site because as a guy (with money) women are always contacting you and it's great for the ego.

 

[ExoticCharmer]

You make a bit of a commitment, perhaps a monthly allowance up-front, and in return you get consistency ... but in general your expense per sex act is lower.

This seems contradictory... would mind sharing some numbers just so I can put this into perspective?

 

[kort]

There have been a number of former and current Toronto sps on Seeking Arrangement. And history would indicate that a number of the girls on that site will end up as sps.

Some of the girls are defacto sps with "pay per meet" fees.

I can't see how it is cheaper than sps. Most of the girls ask is in the 3-5k a month range. Unless you are seeing her 2-3 a week I don't see it being cheaper than an sp.

I've had a couple of SBs in the past. It went ok but I think you have to watch out that you don't become a problem solver for all of the girls problems. The first SB I had was pretty great until I was getting 3-4 emails a day and she expected me to help her in everything. It became to boyfriendy.

I think:
1. It's more expensive to have an SB.
2. You have to make sure to draw boundaries with an SB that you don't with an SP. The defined time with an SP for a certain rate means client and SP should be able to see the line.
3. If you take a bit of time to pick the right girl, and then get to know her as if you were dating....an SB can be a much better part time GF compared to a SP you see regularly. I think you almost need to treat SB/SD like dating at first where most guys seem to treat it like an SP situation. I've met a handful of really sweet girls who would never be SPs but don't mind the SB/SD thing.

 

[Butler1000]

This seems contradictory... would mind sharing some numbers just so I can put this into perspective?

I betting he means (and it depends on the arrangement) that overll you can probably expect it to be cheaper in a volume way.

Average price per hour for an Escort is $250.

Now it depends on the arrangement. Let's say you hook one up with a college student who is looking for rent and a few extras. It may cost you anywhere from 2-4000 per month depending on how much you are to see her. But if it's twice a week say, one quicky and one for an evening then you would come out ahead on a per hourly basis.

As well you can plan better. But then you will also have to deal with the emotional aspect a lot more too.

 

[rhuarc29]

Not sure why anyone would be interested in this. Paying for sex is one thing; it's uncomplicated. But having a sugar baby is like paying for a relationship, which is just so wrong. It's not real. Maybe some people could blind themselves to that fact and so enjoy it, but I certainly wouldn't be able to.

 

[yababy1]

Have to agree that the SB is much more expensive. The longer you know them and the more dependent they become, the more they try to get. Even with an allowance it seems now they can bail if necessary, you still are committed to pay. Im sure that there are some good ones to find but its hard. Too many phoney profiles on Arrangement Finders, try an ad on Backpage but be selective and if she gets too demanding, get out. Another good reason not to let her know too much about you for a bit, guarantee she is doing the same.

 

[roger20]

Have to agree that the SB is much more expensive. The longer you know them and the more dependent they become, the more they try to get. Even with an allowance it seems now they can bail if necessary, you still are committed to pay. Im sure that there are some good ones to find but its hard. Too many phoney profiles on Arrangement Finders, try an ad on Backpage but be selective and if she gets too demanding, get out. Another good reason not to let her know too much about you for a bit, guarantee she is doing the same.

Agreed! I'm back into it again but it's tricky... I use backpages and it's a ton of sob stories about rent to pay and bills etc! Guilt doesn't work to get me in the mood lol! Occasionally you find a enthusiastic girl and it's gravy until she figures she can get more and then it's back to the drawing board :-(

 

[ExoticCharmer]

I have seen SPs for 'day dates' before, 12 hours during the day. Usually runs me $2,000 - $2,400, so let's assume for argument sake, SBs are half that, so $1,000 - $1,200.

During my 12 hours with SP, about 2 hours is set aside for meals, 2-4 hours are social activities with the remaining 6-8 hours on sexual activities.

With an SB, I imagine the breakdown looks very different compared to SP? With more emphasis on social activities than sex?

So from a volume perspective, like other posters stated above, SBs is the way to go but let's say you're only having sex for an hour or two, hourly rate for sex with an SB shoots straight up...

 

[kkelso]

This seems contradictory... would mind sharing some numbers just so I can put this into perspective?

In my last two SB arrangements I paid a monthly allowance in the $2,500 range. I spent 2-3 nights with the lady in question (overnights are my preferred experience) and had unlimited sex during each date which was 12-15 hours long. Along with that, I received very high reliability, ability to plan weeks or a month in advance, interesting conversations, nice dinners, and the occasional walk by the lake on a starry night.

Overall it was quite good.

KK

 

[mrexcite]

My recommendation is to stay far, far away from these types of arrangements. Too many things can go bad. The buy-in is about 5K a month. For every one that is worth it, 99 aren't and many of those end in disaster.

 

[einar]

Has anybody here just found a university girl willing to be an occasional private escort for maybe $100-$150 an evening? A civilian you see once or twice a month who doesn't really grasp - or have any interest in - the industry?
Frugal E (always dreaming)

 

[ExoticCharmer]

In my last two SB arrangements I paid a monthly allowance in the $2,500 range. I spent 2-3 nights with the lady in question (overnights are my preferred experience) and had unlimited sex during each date which was 12-15 hours long. Along with that, I received very high reliability, ability to plan weeks or a month in advance, interesting conversations, nice dinners, and the occasional walk by the lake on a starry night.

Overall it was quite good.

KK

Thanks for the insight, seems I wasn't far off with my estimate. $1,000 for 12 hours, except I hope to meet during the day as that's what I prefer.

 

[roger20]

Has anybody here just found a university girl willing to be an occasional private escort for maybe $100-$150 an evening? A civilian you see once or twice a month who doesn't really grasp - or have any interest in - the industry?
Frugal E (always dreaming)

Double that amount and yes they're plentiful

 

[ExoticCharmer]

Double that amount and yes they're plentiful

$300 for a whole evening?.. or a few hours?..

 

[shack]

$300 for a whole evening?.. or a few hours?..

I've had both. It depends on the girl, the chemistry and the negotiations.