Of course we know that this service was charged for by the funeral home. Is it possible the police did it another way as described many posts ago.
Is the police funeral over the top?
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Lets face it, taking a day off work to go to a funeral is an excellent excuse beyond reproach, for not having to go to work. It's the human sloth factor at it's finest.
I think the last thing an officer would want to do is go to a funeral of another officer. Most didn't 'get the day off'. They worked their shift and went to the service. I know I could come up with a lot of things I'd rather be doing that going to a funeral.
You must be referring to your sloth factor. That comment says volumes about you.
He must have a really shitty job if he thinks it is better to attend a funeral than go to work.I think the last thing an officer would want to do is go to a funeral of another officer. Most didn't 'get the day off'. They worked their shift and went to the service. I know I could come up with a lot of things I'd rather be doing that going to a funeral.
You must be referring to your sloth factor. That comment says volumes about you.
speaking from the perspective of my various management experiences, it is commonly the unionized underling sloths who typically attempt to push the envelopes of their collective agreements to include for example, suddenly deceased old distant thrice removed uncle Barnie who no one has seen in 40 years, as an eligible excuse to take the day off to grieve. When the answer is sorry "no,not on the company's dime..they actually have the nerve to attempt to bump the matter all the way up to arbitration. Happy to hear you gentlemen thrive in work environments absent of union hooligans. Honestly..in your worlds..these folks dont exist...rightHe must have a really shitty job if he thinks it is better to attend a funeral than go to work.
Although I do not know the specifics for the agencies involved, from other agencies: you do realize that unless someone attending was not scheduled to work they either had to take a vacation or comp day off, or they worked that afternoon or on the overnight shift.Lets face it, taking a day off work to go to a funeral is an excellent excuse beyond reproach, for not having to go to work. It's the human sloth factor at it's finest.
In fairness I should mention that there are a couple of U.S. State Police agencies where those on restricted duty (health) but who can still march do only such ceremonial duty. (I suppose TERB feels they should just be fired without even a thank you).
I'll confess that I haven't read all 11 pages, but did scan through. Obviously my heart goes to the family and his squad. I'm pleased that there was a badge program of $10. each with proceeds going to a trust fund.
I just wonder... if all the attendees donated just half of their daily salary... what would that mean to the family.
8,000 honoured representatives... assume at $300 /daily wage plus travel and hotel. It would be over $2,000,000 as a trust for the family.
Food for thought... ultimately it's all tax payer money at the end of things, and I'd like to see it go to the family
I just wonder... if all the attendees donated just half of their daily salary... what would that mean to the family.
8,000 honoured representatives... assume at $300 /daily wage plus travel and hotel. It would be over $2,000,000 as a trust for the family.
Food for thought... ultimately it's all tax payer money at the end of things, and I'd like to see it go to the family
You're right, you didn't read all the posts. Take a look at #94. The regular practice is for many of the officers to do just what you suggested.I'll confess that I haven't read all 11 pages, but did scan through. Obviously my heart goes to the family and his squad. I'm pleased that there was a badge program of $10. each with proceeds going to a trust fund.
I just wonder... if all the attendees donated just half of their daily salary... what would that mean to the family.
8,000 honoured representatives... assume at $300 /daily wage plus travel and hotel. It would be over $2,000,000 as a trust for the family.
Food for thought... ultimately it's all tax payer money at the end of things, and I'd like to see it go to the family
Draw another draught, down another shot, or inhale whatever, then go to bed. You're mumbling garbage.speaking from the perspective of my various management experiences, it is commonly the unionized underling sloths who typically attempt to push the envelopes of their collective agreements to include for example, suddenly deceased old distant thrice removed uncle Barnie who no one has seen in 40 years, as an eligible excuse to take the day off to grieve. When the answer is sorry "no,not on the company's dime..they actually have the nerve to attempt to bump the matter all the way up to arbitration. Happy to hear you gentlemen thrive in work environments absent of union hooligans. Honestly..in your worlds..these folks dont exist...right
Agreed.The guy died and it's a tragedy. But does it warrant shutting down half the city, thousands of cops from all over and speeches by Fantino and others?
Young men die in Afghaniustan almost weekly and no equiivalent fuss is made.
But to be fair, ordinary funerals also shut down a lane or two of traffic sometimes.
I am not sure I would feel compelled to go to someone's funeral just because another member of my profession was killed while on duty, especially if I had never even met the chap who had died. Now if I was getting paid to show up, however, as has been suggested that TO cops were - then I'd be there with bells on. Who wouldn't?
Of course you understand that no one got paid to go and some, who received salary covering shifts, gave their days salary to the family. How many times does that have to be posted?Agreed.
But to be fair, ordinary funerals also shut down a lane or two of traffic sometimes.
I am not sure I would feel compelled to go to someone's funeral just because another member of my profession was killed while on duty, especially if I had never even met the chap who had died. Now if I was getting paid to show up, however, as has been suggested that TO cops were - then I'd be there with bells on. Who wouldn't?
Yes, if the retired officer was on active duty when he died.So answer me this...If a retired policeman, with good record, medals & such dies of old age...will he have the same funeral if the family requests for it?
Sorry, stupid answer to stupid question.
Easy answer. NO. This officer was killed on duty. Now, I'm not sure how it would work if an officer died on duty due to natural causes, anyone?So answer me this...If a retired policeman, with good record, medals & such dies of old age...will he have the same funeral if the family requests for it?
I corrected your post.The reason for the immense size might have something to do with the fact that Toronto has the largest police union in Canada.
Fuji, should I want you to speak for me, I'll pull the rope sticking out from your backside.I corrected your post.
