Your thoughts on the FHITP debate?

[Carling]

So this is how it all started, the original FHRITPster

i see he's dressed in the "rapist" uniform of choice..

 

[james t kirk]

so, is it sexual harassment if they are saying it when there's a male reporter?
What about when a woman says it?

If you watch this video compilation , you'd realize that's it isn't really directed at the reporter. It's just a live platform for them to shout something obscene for the shock factor.

Something you'd expect from Howard Stern , or a scene from a Jackass movie.

I had no idea. I guess I've been living in a cave.

Anyway, loved the guy's response at 9:13. You could hear that one.

10:02 is pretty good too LOL.

 

[eznutz]

To everyone offended by FHRITP, Katy Perry likes to dress up as a 'rapist' too

 

[james t kirk]

I find your comments to be sexual harassment and threatening. Oh wait, I have a penis. Never mind then.

yeah, I was thinking that it's just another case about the old double standard. Women are frail and need protection.

Maybe they just shouldn't send out female reporters to events like this where she could end up getting sexually harassed. [sarcasm]

I'm recalling the incident with Will Smith where some gay dude just ran up and started kissing him and Smith shoved him off of him and people were saying that Will was a homophobe and that he over reacted, blah blah blah.

This woman reporter essentially got photo bombed and some guy (who didn't even say it) gets labelled a bully, dragged out in the media across the country, and he gets his ass fired from his job.

The female reporter - Hunt, has to expect this kind of thing is going to happen more and more. They use the crowd to make their copy, to get the shot, they have to expect some stupid shit to occur from time to time. It's not right, but it happens. It's "an occupational hazard". Not quite as bad as a cop getting shot, or a construction worker plummeting 7 stories to his death, or a fire fighter falling through a burning floor, but it happens.

 

[AK-47]

^^^^ well said Mr. Kirk.

I suppose Katy Perry and all the girls at TMZ are supporters of sexual harrassment as well. Or maybe they just have a better sense of humor

 

[frankcastle]

yeah, I was thinking that it's just another case about the old double standard. Women are frail and need protection.

Maybe they just shouldn't send out female reporters to events like this where she could end up getting sexually harassed. [sarcasm]

I'm recalling the incident with Will Smith where some gay dude just ran up and started kissing him and Smith shoved him off of him and people were saying that Will was a homophobe and that he over reacted, blah blah blah.

This woman reporter essentially got photo bombed and some guy (who didn't even say it) gets labelled a bully, dragged out in the media across the country, and he gets his ass fired from his job.

The female reporter - Hunt, has to expect this kind of thing is going to happen more and more. They use the crowd to make their copy, to get the shot, they have to expect some stupid shit to occur from time to time. It's not right, but it happens. It's "an occupational hazard". Not quite as bad as a cop getting shot, or a construction worker plummeting 7 stories to his death, or a fire fighter falling through a burning floor, but it happens.

But this hazard is preventable. It is not too much to ask people to act civilized.

Are pedophiles just a playground hazard?

 

[frankcastle]

The fall out was unnecessarily harsh.

But the act was also unnecessary. It is neither funny nor something a person needs to get off their chest.

I heard it happens more to women (so could be wrong), if true to me that sounds like it is a deliberate target.

While overly harsh hopefully it reminds people to think about how important whatever it is thst they want to say.

I have been to professional down to children's sporting events where i wish people in the crowd would just grow up and shut up.

 

[canada-man]

why is it that the biggest feminists here on Terb are white knight and beta males?. they are the first to cry misogyny

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2554559

When did female empowerment become female infantilization?

Women once were encouraged to be strong and independent, to brush aside insensitive words and actions and to emerge stronger. But now, politicians, pundits, even celebrities are feeding an outrage machine by telling women they should be offended by anything and everything.

The latest example comes from actress Lena Dunham, famous not only for her HBO show “Girls” but also for a 2012 political ad comparing voting for the first time to losing one’s virginity. Last week, Dunham told NPR that the phrase “too much information” — “TMI” for short — is a sexist phrase that “trivializes female experiences.”

What Dunham doesn’t appear to realize is that by claiming common phrases are sexist, women are actually being told that they need to be protected from free speech and that they should be offended more often because they are somehow being oppressed by that speech. This reinforces the idea that women are overly fragile and sensitive — an image that feminists supposedly have been fighting for decades. TMI is just the latest word or phrase being flagged as sexist. In 2012, the Women’s Media Center created a list of more than 100 words and phrases that are harmful to women, including “aggressive” and “complain.”

Singer Beyonce and Facebook Chief Operating Officer Sheryl Sandberg added a new word to that list in March — “bossy.” Suddenly women were told they were being marginalized if they were called bossy, even though some men are called far worse (far too colorful to mention here).

This need to protect women from even reading or hearing about the ills of society has become so pervasive that some colleges are including “trigger warnings” on class syllabi to caution students that they might be offended or feel uncomfortable about some of the subject matter.

Even more detrimental to women than telling them words can hurt is the recent feminist trend of giving them mixed signals about sexuality. Modern feminists are arguing that it is "slut-shaming" to suggest that women should avoid drunken sex, but they also are pushing colleges to adopt a definition of rape in which women under the heavy influence of alcohol cannot give consent.

The perceived need to coddle women is not exclusive to liberals. In July, Rep. Renee Ellmers, R-N.C., told an audience of women that her male colleagues needed to bring the discussion “down to a woman’s level.” She meant that Republican men need to learn how to relate to women, but the implication was that women can’t understand things the way men can.

There are even bills in Congress codifying the new belief that women are delicate flowers who need help to succeed in this terrible, terrible country. These include equal-pay bills that don’t actually reduce the mythical wage gap but do serve to tell women they need help to become equal to menfolk; campus sex assault bills that tell women they can’t handle alcohol and that if they regret a drunken hookup they have been raped; and a slew of abortion bills claiming the procedure is about “women’s health.”

Women are even being told flat-out that they aren’t making their own decisions but are following a path set for them by a patriarchy. When challenged on the wage gap, a common response from those pushing this myth is that the only reason women choose less lucrative, more flexible careers such as teaching and nursing is because society pushes them toward those jobs. As if no strong woman would willingly choose a path that defies the feminist vision.

Add this all up and you have today’s “thought leaders” telling women they need to be spoken to gently, need the government to guard them from harsh words and uncomfortable topics, that their setbacks are always someone else’s fault and that they aren’t in control of their own lives.

This shift toward telling women they need help at every stage of their lives (remember the Obama campaign's “Life of Julia”?) might raise funds for feminist causes or gain votes for politicians, but it’s not empowering. It’s infantilizing.

 

[gfelover]

While overly harsh hopefully it reminds people to think about how important whatever it is thst they want to say.

I have been to professional down to children's sporting events where i wish people in the crowd would just grow up and shut up.

.......and some of them of that crowd are in here posting.....:frusty: !!

 

[frankcastle]

why is it that the biggest feminists here on Terb are white knight and beta males?. they are the first to cry misogyny

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2554559

Why do chauvinists post long winded opinion pieces.

I at no point suggested women need protection.

Also just because you dont think there is a problem doesn't mean there isn't a problem. But then again you are a non believer in climate change.......

The use of beta male is hilarious. I understand the slang meaning but the original meaning is not how people use it today.

 

[canada-man]

Why do chauvinists post long winded opinion pieces.

I at no point suggested women need protection.

Also just because you dont think there is a problem doesn't mean there isn't a problem. But then again you are a non believer in climate change.......

what does this say about you feminism when all you do is cry chauvinist and misogyny to force people to agree with you? where in the article is chauvinist. point to the sentence and paragraph. i am not the one that is ignoring the female members here who refuse post their opinions on the CITY TV female reporter

 

[frankcastle]

what does this say about you feminism when all you do is cry chauvinist and misogyny to force people to agree with you? where in the article is chauvinist. point to the sentence and paragraph. i am not the one that is ignoring the female members here who refuse post their opinions on the CITY TV female reporter

I am for equality.

No one in the article is chauvinist i was calling you a chauvinist. Perhaps that's the wrong word.

Just because women are not posting doesn't mean a thing. They have something to lose by posting here. This is just the dumbest logic i have heard.

 

[canada-man]

I am for equality.

No one in the article is chauvinist i was calling you a chauvinist. Perhaps that's the wrong word.

Just because women are not posting doesn't mean a thing. They have something to lose by posting here. This is just the dumbest logic i have heard.

calling me a chauvinist is name calling and that does not prove your point. women not posting here means something as if they elected you and other men in this thread to speak for them.

 

[frankcastle]

calling me a chauvinist is name calling and that does not prove your point. women not posting here means something as if they elected you and other men in this thread to speak for them.

You might want to take your own advice on name calling.....eg white knight betas

I never claimed to speak for anyone

Aren't you speaking for the women by assuming you know why they aren't posting?!?!?

If they are okay with it why not post?

 

[frankcastle]

why is it that the biggest feminists here on Terb are white knight and beta males?. they are the first to cry misogyny

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2554559

Sorry maybe a better way to say it is.......

You are dismissing people who oppose you by questioning their motives and man hood. Well done.

 

[canada-man]

Sorry maybe a better way to say it is.......

You are dismissing people who oppose you by questioning their motives and man hood. Well done.

pot meets kettle. when i posted in the sexodus thread a couple of months ago some members on this forum(all men no women) were name calling calling me a woman hater and a misogyny accusing me of sexism towards women one even attempted to doxx me by asking my address and personal info and this person still posting here.

 

[Carling]

pot meets kettle. when i posted in the sexodus thread a couple of months ago some members on this forum(all men no women) were name calling calling me a woman hater and a misogyny accusing me of sexism towards women one even attempted to doxx me by asking my address and personal info and this person still posting here.

how can the women comment here when part of their job descrpition is "FHRITP"?

 

[red]

Think of it this way guys.

It's funny if a bunch of people moon someone.

It isn't if they waggle their dicks at you.

It isn't the fact they disrupted the broadcast but the way they did it. Make a funny face, fine. Mock them, fine.

Sexually harass them? Not acceptable.

Common sense really. This isn't moving the marker towards censorship. This would never have been acceptable ever in any Era.

In fact this type of thing would probably resulted in the guys getting a good thumping and the justice system looking away in the past.

And a deserved it one at at.

That's it.

 

[GPIDEAL]

I think that many soccer/football fans act like classless goons as part of their parroted routine. However, this FHITP directed at a decent female reporter just shows what classless imbecile fucktards they really are.

This crosses the line and I think MLSE is well justified in banning these fans from MLSE properties for life. If not to just send a message to other classless louts.

In this age of social media every one of them will be identified and will pay a price for their behaviour.

However, as much as I think it is loathsome and abusive, I can't see how HydroOne can fire this guy for his private activity outside work that he did nothing to identify himself as a Hydro One employee. If he was wearing a HydroONe hat or t-shirt or jacket or if he was a readily identifiable HydroOne public figure, that would be different.

If they fire him for this I think he would have a case for wrongful dismissal... IF he weren't a Union member! LMAO!!! But because he is a union member and his employment contract is a collective agreement, I don't think he has employment law protection, just what the collective agreement provides. Maybe the collective agreement has some good behaviour/morality provision? But I doubt the union will go to the mat with Hydro One or go on strike over this douchebag getting fired.

I agree with all you said, except I can see the union filing a grievance and arguing this at the labour board if need be.

 

[GPIDEAL]

You thought the prank was rude, but you have no problem calling me an idiot. Hypocrisy much??

And can I have your address as well so I can introduce your wife to your Terb handle??

Sorry AK, your comments are idiotic, so it's not hypocrisy.

It's also not White Knight Syndrome.

We just don't condone indecency or disrespectful conduct, whether it's copycatting or not.

(I can't believe you excuse this immature behaviour).