Worst Nhl contracts?

[superstar_88]

How on earth is Kessel over-rated. Many think he's crap. I would say he's more under-rated. He made JVR and Lupul look like All-Stars. He was saddled with Bozak. For someone who looks like the Philsbury Dough Boy his skating was elite. His shot was more than elite. Passing skills under appreciated because everyone saw him as just a pure shooter.

 

[gcostanza]

Oh I agree it helped them pay more for other players (the link goes into details why) but at end of the day
Leafs paid Clarkson an insane amount considering what he was (and was not)

I still am curious which Leaf you think has a worse contract tho?

Has?
None.
Had?
Jeff Finger.

 

[Fun For All]

Kessell is a great signee compared to Clarkson and Finger...6 decent seasons from Kessell compared to a couple shit seasons from Clarkson and Finger...Finger ended up with the Marlies.

 

[seagerbuzz]

How on earth is Kessel over-rated. Many think he's crap. I would say he's more under-rated. He made JVR and Lupul look like All-Stars. He was saddled with Bozak. For someone who looks like the Philsbury Dough Boy his skating was elite. His shot was more than elite. Passing skills under appreciated because everyone saw him as just a pure shooter.

You just reminded me of Lupul's snorty contract

 

[seagerbuzz]

Oh I agree it helped them pay more for other players (the link goes into details why) but at end of the day
Leafs paid Clarkson an insane amount considering what he was (and was not)

I still am curious which Leaf you think has a worse contract tho?

*edit @gcostanza
You really think Fingers 3.5 per year is worse than Clarksons 5.25?
Finger got paid less AND he outscored Clarkson on the ice....

Clarkson 118gp as Leaf, 15 goals, 11 assists, -25
Finger 105gp as Leaf, 8 goals, 25 assists, -18 AND he is a defenceman anyways

Jeff Finger had only 94 regular season games played in his career by the age of 29 when the Maple Leafs signed him. At least Clarkson had 6 full seasons under his belt by then. If you're judging a contract on when it was signed Finger's takes the cake.

 

[shack]

Joe Sakic was awful as Quebec
It was insane he has 102 points from 240 goals.... I think its still an NHL record....

Not that I would ever question anything you say, but if he scores 240 goals, how does he end up with 102 points. I DO understand how that could be an NHL record.

 

[TeeJay]

Not that I would ever question anything you say, but if he scores 240 goals, how does he end up with 102 points. I DO understand how that could be an NHL record.

lol read man read
You are backwards

You can easily verify stats online shouldnt need me to expand on this

Sakic obviously never scored 240 goals (for that matter; no NHLer ever has. Gretzky has the league record with 92)

 

[Fun For All]

By that same logic we could say Joe Sakic was awful as Quebec routinely lost 60+ games and (again) Sakic had noone else to carry the team
It was insane he has 102 points from 240 goals.... I think its still an NHL record....

lol read man read
You are backwards

You can easily verify stats online shouldnt need me to expand on this

Sakic obviously never scored 240 goals (for that matter; no NHLer ever has. Gretzky has the league record with 92)

I think you need a break from whatever it is that you do...

 

[maurice93]

Claude Gauthier 1964
Andre Veillieux 1965

A defenseman was drafted 1st overall in 1967, Rick Pagnutti (LAK), he never played in the NHL either.

There have been a number of situations through the years where teams would like to go back, and take the guy who went 2nd (or 3rd).
Going 2nd to Hartford, behind Daigle? Chris Pronger. 3rd Chris Gratton, 4th, Paul Kariya, 5th, Rob Neidermayer.
One of my best friends is an Ottawa guy, huge Senators fan. He really wanted them to take Kariya.

Oy, the Senators wiffed.

Very early, too early to confirm, but I think the Ottawa Senators may have gotten the best player in this year's draft, with Tim Stutzle, at 3.

The first few early NHL Drafts were largely void of talent as most of the top talent was already secured and were not draft eligible as they were on junior teams sponsored by NHL teams. It was not like today. So pointing out those picks as the biggest busts makes little sense. Quite frankly the draft pool sucked.

As an example Bobby Orr would have been eligible for the 1966 draft but had already been secured by Boston to play on one of their junior affiliates 5 years earlier.

 

[maurice93]

At the time, if Ottawa selected anybody but Daigle they would have been called idiots for it.

Exactly. It was called the Daigle Cup that year in the race between the sharks and senators who were 2 truly awful teams tanking for that first pick. The Hockey News also called it the Daigle Cup so it was just an Ottawa thing.

George called it a whiff, but it is a whiff that every single other team would have made that year. So in the end it worked out bad but can’t blame the sens for making the pick.

As for friends or people claiming they would have taken “x” over Daigle. Living around ottawa and being a fan, I ran into many people in the next few years after the draft who “claimed” they would have taken somebody other than Daigle. Oddly enough I never ran into anybody or ever saw any article before the draft itself that said the sens should not pick Daigle.

 

[Fun For All]

The first few early NHL Drafts were largely void of talent as most of the top talent was already secured and were not draft eligible as they were on junior teams sponsored by NHL teams. It was not like today. So pointing out those picks as the biggest busts makes little sense. Quite frankly the draft pool sucked.

As an example Bobby Orr would have been eligible for the 1966 draft but had already been secured by Boston to play on one of their junior affiliates 5 years earlier.

The draft changed in 1969 when NHL teams stopped sponsoring Junior teams.

 

[jalimon]

The draft changed in 1969 when NHL teams stopped sponsoring Junior teams.

Yeah and that sucks...

I loved it when you could developed home grown players! Just like in soccer! You can bring in young player (team Academy starts at 8 year's old!) and develop (and protect under contract) these players for your team. Messi was imported to Barcelona at 11...

Which such a system still in place the Habs would have 40 stanley cup by now

 

[Fun For All]

Yeah and that sucks...

I loved it when you could developed home grown players! Just like in soccer! You can bring in young player (team Academy starts at 8 year's old!) and develop (and protect under contract) these players for your team. Messi was imported to Barcelona at 11...

Which such a system still in place the Habs would have 40 stanley cup by now

The Habs wouldn't win any...the players would all be able to sign wherever they want and with no salary cap they'd be in American cities with big salaries and less tax.

 

[maurice93]

The Habs wouldn't win any...the players would all be able to sign wherever they want and with no salary cap they'd be in American cities with big salaries and less tax.

Not sure where you are getting your data.

The Habs have a massive local TV deal. There was a brief period a few years ago where they overtook the leafs as the team with the most revenues, but i suspect was due to timing of tv contracts renewals.

Either way habs are top 3 in the league in revenues with leafs and rangers. They would have one of the largest payrolls in the league without a cap. Like the Leafs. But as we saw pre 2005 strike, and pre cap, spending more didn’t always pay off. For example the Rangers.

And if we go with the soccer model all the Canadian teams would benefit greatly since most are doing well revenue wise relative to the US neighbours. So they could bring in more kids with the $ and the fact that parents would prefer to keep kids local for development.

It would crush many american teams.

 

[Fun For All]

Not sure where you are getting your data.

The Habs have a massive local TV deal. There was a brief period a few years ago where they overtook the leafs as the team with the most revenues, but i suspect was due to timing of tv contracts renewals.

Either way habs are top 3 in the league in revenues with leafs and rangers. They would have one of the largest payrolls in the league without a cap. Like the Leafs. But as we saw pre 2005 strike, and pre cap, spending more didn’t always pay off. For example the Rangers.

And if we go with the soccer model all the Canadian teams would benefit greatly since most are doing well revenue wise relative to the US neighbours. So they could bring in more kids with the $ and the fact that parents would prefer to keep kids local for development.

It would crush many american teams.

Players would not chose Montreal due to cost of living...

 

[shack]

Not sure where you are getting your data.

The Habs have a massive local TV deal. There was a brief period a few years ago where they overtook the leafs as the team with the most revenues, but i suspect was due to timing of tv contracts renewals.

Either way habs are top 3 in the league in revenues with leafs and rangers. They would have one of the largest payrolls in the league without a cap. Like the Leafs. But as we saw pre 2005 strike, and pre cap, spending more didn’t always pay off. For example the Rangers.

And if we go with the soccer model all the Canadian teams would benefit greatly since most are doing well revenue wise relative to the US neighbours. So they could bring in more kids with the $ and the fact that parents would prefer to keep kids local for development.

It would crush many american teams.

Mo. Could you please refresh my memory. Wasn't there some kind of deal where the Habs could claim any 2 players from the Quebec junior league before they were available to rest of the clubs? IIRC, the last time that they could do this they selected Marc Tardif and Rejean Houle. If so, that would have been a huge advantage. Or am I mistaken?

 

[Darts]

"Can the Montreal Canadiens take two players from Quebec?
So they decided that the Montreal Canadiens could take any two players from the province of Quebec in a special draft. There was one rider however. None of these players could have already been previously signed which in those days meant to an A, B or C form."

 

[Darts]

Players would not chose Montreal due to cost of living...

Cost of housing in Montreal is lower than Toronto and Vancouver.

 

[Fun For All]

Cost of housing in Montreal is lower than Toronto and Vancouver.

Cost of living is higher in Canada than the United States...

 

[K Douglas]

Current contracts the first one that popped into my mind is Jeff Skinner's. He's been a healthy scratch for 3 straight games and he's making $9mil per year until 2026. Just gross.