Why men eschew marriage in 2022
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that twitter video is created by whiners who called themselves mgtow that spend all day on the internet whining about women and e-begging
on youtube when you want to watch entertainment and news content their videos constantly popping up in "recommendations" or related videos
here is an example on my roku tv wiith the youtube app minutes ago after i watched judge judy and european driving videos
on youtube when you want to watch entertainment and news content their videos constantly popping up in "recommendations" or related videos
here is an example on my roku tv wiith the youtube app minutes ago after i watched judge judy and european driving videos
Hey - don’t get me wrong. I’m all for the single life. Never been married and never will. Been asked, said no and walked away.
I get the reasons for wanting to be single but when you mix those legit reasons with man/woman hating rhetoric then you just end up looking like a fool.
I get the reasons for wanting to be single but when you mix those legit reasons with man/woman hating rhetoric then you just end up looking like a fool.
A key difference between men and women has always been why they form relationships. Women traditionally engage in hypergamy because men have more assets relative to women, and women need assets for raising children, improving their lifestyle, etc. Whereas men don't look to women for assets, but for companionship to improve their lifestyle. Guys' main focus is someone they can enjoy spending time with and who they can have regular sex with. What's changed since WW2 is women have gradually accrued more assets and the ability to earn more. Ignore the whining about the supposed wage gap. Today, men and women doing the same job with comparable experience earn the same. Indeed, single never married never had kids women have been out earning single never married never had kids men for 50 years now, but no one seems to be concerned about that wage gap which is actually larger.
So women don't need men as much as they traditionally did and won't settle for what their mothers or grandmothers would have. If they're unhappy in a relationship they will on average withhold sex to some degree. Whereas men still don't generally consider women's income as a primary factor when choosing a mate until you get to higher income levels where you have a lot of rich marrying rich. Men still prioritize having an active sex life and assume that their role is to earn money for the family. At regular incomes though, divorce is much more common even though it is relatively far more costly. Because of laws regarding alimony and child custody, women initiate divorce twice as often as men. One suspects men would initiate divorce a lot more if they didn't have to pay for it as much given that what men are mostly looking for is a partner they enjoy being with. Since it's so costly to split up, they save money and try and satisfy their urges through affairs or paid sex instead. Although depending on which study you look at, women have affairs as much as men do. I saw a study that claimed that the most common thing a woman will ask her partner after discovering he cheated is not "Do you love her?" But "Did you spend money on her?" Again, an assets issue where money equals love. Ironically, most men having affairs aren't looking to end the main relationship, they mostly want the attention they used to get. Whereas if a woman cheats, chances are far higher she is already considering a move. Indeed, when women end a relationship it is usually when hey have their next partner already lined up to smooth the transition. It is far more rare for men to dump their wives in order to shack up with their side piece.
One of the ironies of this hypergamy is that with women earning so much more now, fewer men have the higher incomes to make them desirable. So you have more women chasing a smaller elite set of men, and some of these men realize heir enhanced status and become players, further reducing the eligible pool even more. Women have not yet adjusted to dating down, which is what men have been doing for a long time. Indeed, the odds of divorce are 400% higher when a woman out earns her man than vice versa. Women making more tend to be very busy at their jobs and are "too tired" for sex afterwards, either genuinely or because they see their lesser income partner as less desirable. We've seen this play out in the black community in the US for decades now where black women have been out earning black men for various sociological reasons and absent fathers and single mom families are far more common. I know many successful single white women who don't even bother with dating for mating. They just pay to get fertilized and raise kids themselves / with paid or family help, no man required. How many men do you know who want to consciously conceive and raise kids on their own? The implications of all this are profound and hard to anticipate, but we do already have good evidence of worse outcomes for kids raised by single parents in general. Sure rich women can likely improve the odds for their kids but that's cold comfort for the kids without rich moms.
So women don't need men as much as they traditionally did and won't settle for what their mothers or grandmothers would have. If they're unhappy in a relationship they will on average withhold sex to some degree. Whereas men still don't generally consider women's income as a primary factor when choosing a mate until you get to higher income levels where you have a lot of rich marrying rich. Men still prioritize having an active sex life and assume that their role is to earn money for the family. At regular incomes though, divorce is much more common even though it is relatively far more costly. Because of laws regarding alimony and child custody, women initiate divorce twice as often as men. One suspects men would initiate divorce a lot more if they didn't have to pay for it as much given that what men are mostly looking for is a partner they enjoy being with. Since it's so costly to split up, they save money and try and satisfy their urges through affairs or paid sex instead. Although depending on which study you look at, women have affairs as much as men do. I saw a study that claimed that the most common thing a woman will ask her partner after discovering he cheated is not "Do you love her?" But "Did you spend money on her?" Again, an assets issue where money equals love. Ironically, most men having affairs aren't looking to end the main relationship, they mostly want the attention they used to get. Whereas if a woman cheats, chances are far higher she is already considering a move. Indeed, when women end a relationship it is usually when hey have their next partner already lined up to smooth the transition. It is far more rare for men to dump their wives in order to shack up with their side piece.
One of the ironies of this hypergamy is that with women earning so much more now, fewer men have the higher incomes to make them desirable. So you have more women chasing a smaller elite set of men, and some of these men realize heir enhanced status and become players, further reducing the eligible pool even more. Women have not yet adjusted to dating down, which is what men have been doing for a long time. Indeed, the odds of divorce are 400% higher when a woman out earns her man than vice versa. Women making more tend to be very busy at their jobs and are "too tired" for sex afterwards, either genuinely or because they see their lesser income partner as less desirable. We've seen this play out in the black community in the US for decades now where black women have been out earning black men for various sociological reasons and absent fathers and single mom families are far more common. I know many successful single white women who don't even bother with dating for mating. They just pay to get fertilized and raise kids themselves / with paid or family help, no man required. How many men do you know who want to consciously conceive and raise kids on their own? The implications of all this are profound and hard to anticipate, but we do already have good evidence of worse outcomes for kids raised by single parents in general. Sure rich women can likely improve the odds for their kids but that's cold comfort for the kids without rich moms.
International flights are cheap these days, millions of young beautiful thin women out there who would be very happy with living a north american middle class lifestyle.
A lot of them are crooks. Those days of foreign brides being easy ain't the same.
That's the crowd Pee Pee is looking to attract by using the MGTOW hashtags in his YouTube videos.that twitter video is created by whiners who called themselves mgtow that spend all day on the internet whining about women and e-begging
on youtube when you want to watch entertainment and news content their videos constantly popping up in "recommendations" or related videos
here is an example on my roku tv wiith the youtube app minutes ago after i watched judge judy and european driving videos
Liberals want House speaker to investigate hidden tags on Poilievre YouTube account
The federal Liberals are demanding a formal investigation into the use of hidden tags embedded in Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre's YouTube videos.
Trying to pigeon-hole every woman like this is very dishonest.
Here's a tip. If you get shot down or humiliated by a woman, sharpen your sword and try again. Don't start bitching about how every woman is a gold-digging whore out to get you. That is the cowardly way out and can become dangerous, especially if a bunch of you start thinking the same thing.
Yeah but it's hard to get information on a foreign woman. How can you investigate a women in another country?
I've been wanting to make a thread on this, I guess I'll start later today. I'm going to see if I can buy a mail order wife.
Love the comment, though will point out that in this market its standard to buy a house without even a home inspection. Many are even bought without a visit, even an online one.
I don't know who that is. This is all standard sociology and available info.
Speaking of Andrew Tate, he just converted to Islam, supposedly.
gettr.com
Andrew Tate on GETTR : This is why I'm Muslim. Any Christian who believes in good and understands the true battle against evil must convert.&...
This is why I'm Muslim. Any Christian who believes in good and understands the true battle against evil must convert. "So be patient, Indeed the promise of Allah is TRUTH" Quran 30:60
gettr.com
the statistics paint a different picture.
50-60% of marriages end in divorce.
70- 80% of women file for divorce versus 20-30% of men. the most common reason discontentment.
if women out earn men they divorce at a rate of 80-90% of the time.
I dont know the specifics of female or males infidelity off hand but I would speculate that woman probably cheat more then men. see above note regarding unhappiness. women have way more options and chances to cheat then men since they have the vagina. men possibly could cheat at a higher rate then women if they had the same access to sex which men dont.
I agree with the examples you have provided; however, there is a financial incentive for a woman to leave a marriage versus a man leaving. women typically get alimony and child support, while men end up worse off financially. its become a slogan for men that its cheaper to keep her for a reason. women have the ability to leave with all the cash and prizes due to current family law, and men have little recourse.
its not one sided but given the above info there is strong support for the meme. I think its a meme....
Gene Wilder told he future to be wife Gilda Radner - "if you want to marry me you have to let go of all your SNL male friends right now. They are welcome to come to the wedding with guest and never seen them again unless it is work. Learn French because in the summer I like to be in France. And you better learn Tennis that is what I like as a hobby."
Some doc I saw about him.
Generally agree, however I think the divorce rate is more like 30-40%. Grey divorces increasing big time though. A key problem is that women quite often get a paycheque to leave, and an even bigger one if they want sole custody bad enough. Men almost never win this contest.
Eighteen years, eighteen years
She got one of your kids, got you for eighteen years
I know somebody payin' child support for one of his kids
His baby mama car and crib is bigger than his
...
She was supposed to buy your shorty Tyco with your money
She went to the doctor, got lipo with your money
She walkin' around lookin' like Michael with your money
Shoulda got that insured, Geico for your money
If you ain't no punk
Holla, "We want prenup! We want prenup!" (Yeah!)
It's somethin' that you need to have
‘Cause when she leave yo' ass, she gon' leave with half
@ScissorLifter, I was agreeing with the first part of your post about hating rhetoric being a bad thing, but then it took a real turn. This part of your post is crazy to me:
Giving someone a crazy ultimatum like that is not the way to find out if they're a keeper. It's a pretty mean thing to ask for, first of all. And who even wants to be with the type of woman who's willing to turn her back on friends just because the guy they're dating says so? It also hints at an insane level of insecurity and jealousy. If the woman respects herself at all, I think she would rightly see that ultimatum as a red flag and get the fuck out of there.
Possibly, though keep in mind that the opposite is quite common with women being highly suspicious of any female friends the guy has. Even if they don't go so far as ultimatums, it is quite common for women to control their men's interactions with other women.
