Why men eschew marriage in 2022

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Speaking of Andrew Tate, he just converted to Islam, supposedly.
That was only a matter of time, given his views on women.....
 

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Gene Wilder told he future to be wife Gilda Radner - "if you want to marry me you have to let go of all your SNL male friends right now. They are welcome to come to the wedding with guest and never seen them again unless it is work. Learn French because in the summer I like to be in France. And you better learn Tennis that is what I like as a hobby."

Some doc I saw about him.
Absolute bullshit. Wilder adored Radner and they loved each other very much. He would never expect her to leave friends because that would likely make her very unhappy.....

My guess is that was a joke because he was a comedian after all.....
 
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Possibly, though keep in mind that the opposite is quite common with women being highly suspicious of any female friends the guy has. Even if they don't go so far as ultimatums, it is quite common for women to control their men's interactions with other women.
Good luck with that ladies.....
 

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the statistics paint a different picture.

50-60% of marriages end in divorce.
70- 80% of women file for divorce versus 20-30% of men. the most common reason discontentment.
if women out earn men they divorce at a rate of 80-90% of the time.

I dont know the specifics of female or males infidelity off hand but I would speculate that woman probably cheat more then men. see above note regarding unhappiness. women have way more options and chances to cheat then men since they have the vagina. men possibly could cheat at a higher rate then women if they had the same access to sex which men dont.

I agree with the examples you have provided; however, there is a financial incentive for a woman to leave a marriage versus a man leaving. women typically get alimony and child support, while men end up worse off financially. its become a slogan for men that its cheaper to keep her for a reason. women have the ability to leave with all the cash and prizes due to current family law, and men have little recourse.

its not one sided but given the above info there is strong support for the meme. I think its a meme....
You missed the point. It is not the only meme that can be made about marriage. We could have one about drunk dads beating their wives and how they have to use places like shelters to get away.

Every story is one sided when presented this way.
 

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Agreed. As long as the guy only befriends girls of lower beauty (at least two points lower) than his girlfriend, she won't be too miffed. But if he has female friends as hot as her, she will ultimatum his ass in a heartbeat. Is she treating him like her property? Is she insanely jealous or insecure? Or is she just being smart? Things seem to look very different when it is the girl making the "ultimatums". But it is the same story.

(Actually the girls that are two points lower than her probably are amazing in bed! They've developed skills to makeup for their shortcomings.)
As seen in the Russell Crowe movie A Beuatiful Mind where his character develops a Nobel prize winning economic theory based solely on his observation that men should play the odds and not pursue the hot blonde but go after her brunette friends. :) Ive also long said there is more joy to be had in brunettes because they will try harder to compensate for their perceived disadvantage relative to blondes. They are not as used to men falling over themselves to score so are actually better in bed. Then you have gingers......
 
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Possibly, though keep in mind that the opposite is quite common with women being highly suspicious of any female friends the guy has. Even if they don't go so far as ultimatums, it is quite common for women to control their men's interactions with other women.
Ok, fair point, it's a two-way street. But there are many women who aren't like that. So IMO, a better way to find a keeper is just choose one of those non-ball-buster ladies and you can both keep your friends.

As long as the guy only befriends girls of lower beauty (at least two points lower) than his girlfriend, she won't be too miffed. But if he has female friends as hot as her, she will ultimatum his ass in a heartbeat. Is she treating him like her property? Is she insanely jealous or insecure? Or is she just being smart? Things seem to look very different when it is the girl making the "ultimatums". But it is the same story.
Yes, a woman giving the ultimatum would seem just as jealous and insecure to me and would be a deal-breaker. I have had great relationships with women who were not jealous like that. So if you haven't been lucky enough to experience that, my advice is shop around and choose your partners more carefully.

Don't want this to sound like a personal attack, that's not how I mean it. But your post earlier pointed to some real trust issues that you should try to work on, IMHO. You said "if your girlfriend has male friends it's only a matter of time until she fucks one." I promise you that's not true and it's a pretty weird assumption. And if you have that kind of distrust going into every relationship, I'm afraid it's not going to work out well.
 

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Don't want this to sound like a personal attack, that's not how I mean it. But your post earlier pointed to some real trust issues that you should try to work on, IMHO. You said "if your girlfriend has male friends it's only a matter of time until she fucks one." I promise you that's not true and it's a pretty weird assumption. And if you have that kind of distrust going into every relationship, I'm afraid it's not going to work out well.
It's not a weird assumption. Very few men have female friends that they don't want to have sex with. How many female friends do you have that you hang out with after work that you're not sexually attracted to? For most men, it's none. And many married women have sex outside of their marriage.

There's trust and then there's naivety.
 

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A lot of them are crooks. Those days of foreign brides being easy ain't the same.
The Canadian laws don’t make things easier either as they state that men must be financially responsible for a foreign woman brought over even if she leaves and goes with somebody else within weeks of arriving
 

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The Canadian laws don’t make things easier either as they state that men must be financially responsible for a foreign woman brought over even if she leaves and goes with somebody else within weeks of arriving
At the time that I sponsored my wife from the Philippines(1999)(met through a co-worker,not mail order), you were on the hook for ten years. Meaning, if she went on welfare, the government could sue you for the money. From what I believe, very few if any were actually sued. Not sure how if works now. By the way, I think you can even sponsor common law now. Correct me if I am wrong on that.
 

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At the time that I sponsored my wife from the Philippines(1999)(met through a co-worker,not mail order), you were on the hook for ten years. Meaning, if she went on welfare, the government could sue for the money. From what I believe, very few if any were actually sued. Not sure how if works now. I think you can even sponsor common law now. Correct me if I am wrong on that.
Fixed it.
 

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The Canadian laws don’t make things easier either as they state that men must be financially responsible for a foreign woman brought over even if she leaves and goes with somebody else within weeks of arriving
Only a fool brings a foreign woman back to Canada. Those lessons were learned many years ago by observing Boomers get shafted when they did it.

Also, understand that if you marry a beautiful woman in the Third World, she will probably cheat on you, but it's better she does it there than here.
 
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Only a fool brings a foreign woman back to Canada. Those lessons were learned many years ago by observing Boomers get shafted when they did it.

Also, understand that if you marry a beautiful woman in the Third World, she will probably cheat on you, but it's better she does it there than here.
I don't think women care as much about sex as men think they do. Financial infidelity is probably more of a concern.

Best if possible to move to her country. My nephew now speaks Thai and has a great wife, living in Thailand.
 
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going into marriage in 2022 without a prenup is crazy
with enough money you can do whatever you want and live however you please with however many dependents
 

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going into marriage in 2022 without a prenup is crazy
with enough money you can do whatever you want and live however you please with however many dependents
If you do not have a prenup and have more money that her, then rent and keep your assets separate for a least the first few years.
Read up on Ontario family law. But yes, prenup is best but will not cover child support. Situation can get crazy. For example, if she says that Depo-Provera gives her a headache.
Then what, refuse sex?
 
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I don't think women care as much about sex as men think they do. Financial infidelity is probably more of a concern.
Women may not care about sex as much as men, or as much as men think they do. However, women know the power of sex in obtaining everything from partners to status to material goods to lifestyle. So even when a woman isn't necessarily horny, she will have sex to meet those ends... including companionship, and feminine desires like 'emotional connections'.

All of that said, women do experience the primal urge for sex with someone they deem attractive. That's just human nature. She's with you because you can provide for her... never mistaken that for love or physical attraction.

The mitigating factors for a woman to not cheat is knowing that she could lose all supports and monetary comforts if she does so. This obviously doesn't exist in the West any longer due to family courts and government assistance programs. All the power to "modern women", but they're not at all appealing for said reasons.
 
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What about the story when the guy cheats on his lovely wife while she is taking care of the kids? Or the dual working families like many are? And she clock out of work to come home and clock back in again.

We can all make stories look one-sided.
It depends on his reason for cheating. If it's purely sexual then it's okay because men and women have different needs. If his wife is taking care of the kids, she'll have no time and energy for him when he comes home from work and needs release.

Double standards exist between men and women because both sexes are completely different.

that twitter video is created by whiners who called themselves mgtow that spend all day on the internet whining about women and e-begging
This isn't true...

A good YT channel to watch is FreshandFit where the male hosts (who are visible minorities just like Andrew Tate) discuss with women openly on topics such as this. I mention that they're visible minorities because if the same channel were operated by young white males they would be mis-labeled with the usual slander and probably banned.

 
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It depends on his reason for cheating. If it's purely sexual then it's okay because men and women have different needs. If his wife is taking care of the kids, she'll have no time and energy for him when he comes home from work and needs release.

Double standards exist between men and women because both sexes are completely different.



This isn't true...

A good YT channel to watch is FreshandFit where the male hosts (who are visible minorities just like Andrew Tate) discuss with women openly on topics such as this. I mention that they're visible minorities because if the same channel were operated by young white males they would be mis-labeled with the usual slander and probably banned.

Wow. Just wow.....
 
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Wow. Just wow.....
Sooner than later, society is going to do a 180 and recognize like it did throughout all of human history that men and women are equal but different. What applies to one, does not always apply to the other. And it has nothing to do with oppression or patriarchy, but biology.

For example, women are born with value while men have to create value, which fortunately lasts much longer when achieved. Men buy sex, women sell sex because vagina and tits have inherent value. That's the very foundation of TERB's existence.

It's so self-evident but a generation of radical feminist programming has made you blind to it. As a result, your kneejerk reaction will be one of disdain and horror rather than understanding.
 

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Sooner than later, society is going to do a 180 and recognize like it did throughout all of human history that men and women are equal but different. What applies to one, does not always apply to the other. And it has nothing to do with oppression or patriarchy, but biology.

For example, women are born with value while men have to create value. Men buy sex, women sell sex because vagina and tits have inherent value. That's the very foundation of TERB's existence.

It's so self-evident but a generation of radical feminist programming has made you blind to it. As a result, your kneejerk reaction will be one of disdain and horror rather than understanding.
Yeah. Maybe one day we will all realize that owning others (especially women) as property is just how things were and therefore that is correct....

WTF are you on, dude?
 
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