Why do clients patronize SWs with gifts?
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I've never understood the self-loathing hobbyist mentality. A lot of people pay for sex because they have the means, the opportunity, and like the no strings variety. If you don't feel good about it, why do it?
Maybe you guys should spend the odd $250 for an hour with a psychotherapist?
Do you get a cheap thrill by kicking a hornet's nest? Maybe he's a troll, but many of us can be that way whether we intend to or not. Why bring this point up yet again when you know exactly how he's going to respond.
Do you really need to re-iterate these same points over and over again when it clearly does not work?
Quotes About Giving https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/giving
“Presents are made for the pleasure of who gives them, not the merits of who receives them.”
― Carlos Ruiz Zafón, The Shadow of the Wind
“You can give without loving, but you cannot love without giving.”
― Amy Carmichael
“Presents are made for the pleasure of who gives them, not the merits of who receives them.”
― Carlos Ruiz Zafón, The Shadow of the Wind
“You can give without loving, but you cannot love without giving.”
― Amy Carmichael
Some great quotes.
What unfortunately is always lost when it comes to gift (or even charitable work/donation) is that there should be zero expectation of return which is why some people give gifts. I understand this but then go back to the idea that when it comes to SP's, the overarching frame is a business relationship. I give gifts to family members and some friends whenever I see something they'll like because I know there's something real in the relationship and money is not the driving factor. Sorry people but the moment money is involved, the relationship is business no matter how some people try and paint it as something more/else. Remove the money and the relationship ends, right? Yes, there are exceptions where some have dated SW's, some are friends and only see them socially, but in most cases, money gone, lady gone.
If you don't understand, then you're lost. Once in a while for this thing is fine but chances are if you're on this board then you're using it more often than that and it becomes this substitute for relationships with women who might csre about you more than your wallet.
Ive questioned this SP and the gifts I saw she got and I'm like Wtf, it looked laughable. Gifts should be the other way around for in terms of a loyalty discount or something but you'll never get that or rarely becuase you know they really think of you.
Finally, if you keep giving gifts it'll put her head in the sky and she'll increase her rates.
I'm sure those quotes weren't given in the context of an SP and client "relationship" where you're already shelling out more than enough. Gimme a break
i have no problems buying her a house, but when she starts asking for her own Gulfstream IV jet equipped with a 24hr pilot, then you know you're spoiling her
We all know the saying, "Misery Loves Company".
8 Things That Only Truly Miserable People Do https://www.elitedaily.com/life/8-things-that-only-truly-miserable-people-do
1. They manage to find the worst in everything - always finding the down side.
2. They hate their friends.
3. They spend as much time as possible distracting themselves from reality.
4. The first thing they do every morning is get pissed off about having to get up.
5. They give lip to whomever, whenever the opportunity arises.
6. They like to point out flaws in others.
7. They don't like themselves very much, but still think they're better than the rest of the world.
8. They believe those who are happy must be ignorant, yet are still jealous they can't be as happy themselves.
Sadly, I see quite a bit of this type of behaviour on here!
8 Things That Only Truly Miserable People Do https://www.elitedaily.com/life/8-things-that-only-truly-miserable-people-do
1. They manage to find the worst in everything - always finding the down side.
2. They hate their friends.
3. They spend as much time as possible distracting themselves from reality.
4. The first thing they do every morning is get pissed off about having to get up.
5. They give lip to whomever, whenever the opportunity arises.
6. They like to point out flaws in others.
7. They don't like themselves very much, but still think they're better than the rest of the world.
8. They believe those who are happy must be ignorant, yet are still jealous they can't be as happy themselves.
Sadly, I see quite a bit of this type of behaviour on here!
These quotes don't seem to apply to the act to patronize
someone. If I understand the word correctly a gift given
to patronize is more like a patronage stemmed from diplomacy and business consideration than friendship
or love.
Really? All the stuff going on in this thread and you decided to question the definition? I laughed when I saw this.
For sure there are some haters who are getting judgmental (emphasis on "mental") to the point of acting like gifting is a crime against humanity. It isn't. Then there's others such as myself who are simply questioning the practice when people give over-the-top gifts, especially considering that money could be spent on friends/family, people who (for the most part) enjoy hanging out with you because they genuinely like you, no strings attached. So I have $1000 that I'm going to spend on a handbag for my favorite SP. Could I not spend that money on my SO, my kids, etc.? Maybe it's a trust issue, maybe it's paranoia, but that SP may fly the coop the next day. I guess some people are more free with their money, probably because they can afford to be. But how many people are seeing SP's because there's something wrong in their personal lives that perhaps could be resolved with time/money/therapy?
You’re using an extreme example. $1000 handbag? Hardly a common thing. But if somebody wants to do this, so what? It’s not up to me to judge or make assumptions that his kids go hungry as a result. Personally, after providing for my family, what I spend on me-time is only my business - it was the same way when I was married. No guilt at all. In fact, if this activity makes you feel guilty DON’T DO IT. This should be a guilt free activity. You want guilt? Have an affair.
And guys - a gift doesn’t have to be extravagant - could be as simple as a thoughtful coffee and a donut from Tim’s. I just find it weird to learn that some guys seem to put more thought into what others are doing (I.e. giving a gift) than the people actually doing it. Strange.
Any other spending up for criticisms? Nice cars, houses? I tip/gift our mailman at Christmas. Is that idiotic too?
1- Basic Idiocy (client thinks that gifting her makes him special)
2- Con (provider lies or implies the client is in any way special)
Seriously the entire reason people pay for a pound of flesh is to avoid all the hassles that go with a relationship
Anyone who even considers gifting should not be involved in this industry
2- Con (provider lies or implies the client is in any way special)
Seriously the entire reason people pay for a pound of flesh is to avoid all the hassles that go with a relationship
Anyone who even considers gifting should not be involved in this industry
Have you not heard of Meals & Entertainment expenses incurred by businesses for other business (clients)?
Ever hear of "greasing the wheel"?
Gifts occur in the world outside of the AE industry too.
But Bostonmass's answer also is to the point.
Gifting can be in lieu of a bigger tip. Gifting or tips do make said clients special.
Have you not tipped someone for better or extra service?
