So I'm guessing YMMV applies to you with a vengeance. No need to buy gifts,you smooth talking charmer.
Why do clients patronize SWs with gifts?
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The escorting business is a business foremost and escorts are in it for money above all else. It's a business that is crawling with people who prey on the needy, the emotional, and the weak.Some here seem to think that there is a worldwide conspiracy theory by all women to dupe men and swindle then out of their hard earned cash.
I think that giving gifts as a nice gesture is perfectly normal and something that thoughtful people might engage in. But we also know that many men fall into another category of looking for true love in the wrong place and seeing it where it doesn't exist. A thread like this might save one unlucky soul from crashing and burning like so many before him.
The majority of men who purchase gifts for SP/MP or dancers are men who are either one of the followingOne of the things that I found hard to understand about this industry is the idea of a client patronizing a SW with gifts. I see SP's and MPA's post their gifts from clients on their Twitter feed and also seeing some SP's post a link to their Amazon wishlist on their and men actually buying those accessories for them. I believe that the dynamic of a client/SW relationship is a business transnational relationship. She provides you service and you pay. Nothing more and nothing less. Anything outside of that dynamic such as buying them gifts I find to be very unnecessary. I feel that it makes the client seem like the SW is their actual significant other and on top of that, SWs are only a part of our lives in a business sense. SWs are not thinking about us at the back of their minds while they are off-work so I don't see a logical reasoning as to why would a client go out of their way to buy a SW a gift like they are their actual partner.
1. Socially inept
2. Do not have real relationships in their lives and filling the void with this hobby so they try to make this fantasy as real as possible
3. Men who are trying to sweep the SW off her feet (Buying her affections)
4. Money and gifts is not an issue to them (But then again how many of hobbyists are that well off that they can afford these lavish gifts and no if you are making $200K/year you shouldn't be buying $2000 handbags for SW)
I am sure there are other reasons but the majority of guys who do buy gifts would fall into the above categories.
It is safe to say majority of men who do gift SW's lavishly are not charmers or lookers/Don Juan's. People don't go around gifting their doctors, lawyers, accountants, etc....and I don't see a reason to gift anyone who already makes a significant amount of money and can afford these gifts themselves.
A small gift something that can be used during the session or a piece of lingerie I don't see anything wrong with it but buying a Louis Vuitton bag or a pair of Louboutin heels is just stupid.
Does anyone remember a man a few years back who was gifting a stripper I can't remember if it was a Club Pro or a Whiskey a Go Go dancer, he purchased her a lot of gifts I think it was in the hundreds of thousand and somehow the story was in the papers I can't remember if he had committed fraud or something else. A good look at him or a quick conversation would tell you the type of guys who buy gifts for SW.
The answer to this and many other "why do people do x" questions is: because they want to. Do we really need to spend time and energy over-analyzing such a simple concept?
Fair point. I don't want to pay for having fun with any SP that is ugly and tricks people with photoshop pics.I don't fuck ugly people.
How does limiting ones self to 4 fucks per month cut down on ugly people?I fuck maybe 4 people a month. I think my odds of ensuring they are not ugly people is pretty high thanks
Jessica sees the person, he;s ugly and she shuts the door in his face?
I bought my regular gifts for Chinese New Year/Valentines. Been seeing her for over a year with nary an unpleasant moment. No illusions of love. Just a show of appreciation for someone who gives me pleasure. I could ignore any extra effort. But, to me she is worth it. She is not some sub human sex slave who grudgingly plays me.An occasional client might bring a gift around a holiday because he wants to be gentlemanly or likes offering a random surprise to get a smile
These gifts are generally given from the heart as a kind gesture. People give neighbours, co workers, loved ones and friends gifts, being a sex worker and selling companionship does not make us subhuman.
Hypocrisy - quoiting someone who you've asked not to quote you.
Taxation was a different thread so if I erred there, feel free to correct me (or not). Everything else has been stated in other threads so I don't know how I've assumed anything. Are you saying you don't sometimes give extra time, something you've mentioned elsewhere? Are you saying you've never not charged a long-term client, something you've mentioned elsewhere?
FYI, I'm not disagreeing with your point and am supporting a reason for you and others getting gifts.
You derail every thread you stick your head into. I've called you out for this in the past. Why is it so hard for you to post about the topic at hand rather than bringing other subjects into it, or trying to make it about yourself. Your continuous back and forth bickering with other members on many different topics shows how big of a SUPER TROLL you truly are you are quite the FUJI'esque poster.Public forum, public discussion. I do not want to talk with you directly either nor have I done so until this moment. I'm not targeting you, trying to impugn your character or have any negative reason behind my comments. Sorry if that's your impression/assumption. But I see no reason to basically side-step/tiptoe around you and all your comments on a PUBLIC forum simply because you've asked. I treat you like any other person - if I see a comment I like or agree with, I say so. If I disagree, I say so. If it references something I want to build on, I do so. Please do not ask me to do something I don't have to do nor should I do just because you have your own negative opinion. Is it fair if I ask you to stop posting on Terb because I don't like/agree with some things you post?
Please feel free to follow your own advice. EOD
Sorry folks for the side step, courtesy of Jessica. I can't help it if I reply to a topic only to have someone complain and go onto a tangent.
Hopefully the MODS take a look at your posts and ban you for good you SUPER TROLL
He did the same thing to my Christmas gift thread back in November. Derailed it into this same argument about gift giving. Now him and Jessica are just going at it again...You derail every thread you stick your head into. I've called you out for this in the past. Why is it so hard for you to post about the topic at hand rather than bringing other subjects into it, or trying to make it about yourself. Hopefully the MODS take a look at your posts and ban you for good you SUPER TROLL
All men that come to her door with cash in hand are magically attractive.How does limiting ones self to 4 fucks per month cut down on ugly people?
Jessica sees the person, he;s ugly and she shuts the door in his face?
I would. If I can't get into a session with a client, including being completely unattracted to them, I would not go through with the session. I clearly state on my site that I am not a YMMV type and it is why I have an "about you" section on my site. I have been told my site reads more like a dating profile then an escort site in some ways.How does limiting ones self to 4 fucks per month cut down on ugly people?
Jessica sees the person, he;s ugly and she shuts the door in his face?
Problem is your opinion of what "clients" look like. You don't know. I don't know if you are projecting when you say fat and old but that is not who has shown up at my door.
Learn to read. I made a comment about gift giving, WHICH IS WHAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT, and Jessica started to complain about me making assumptions. Not the first time I've made a comment on topic and someone else has chosen to attack me and the comment based on something personal and nothing to do with the comments themselves. Clearly you don't understand that and then you turn around and tell me off? Continue to ignore that fact when you post your BS whines. Yet you continue to post the same comment again and again and think I have an issue. Get over yourself.You derail every thread you stick your head into. I've called you out for this in the past. Why is it so hard for you to post about the topic at hand rather than bringing other subjects into it, or trying to make it about yourself. Your continuous back and forth bickering with other members on many different topics shows how big of a SUPER TROLL you truly are you are quite the FUJI'esque poster.
Hopefully the MODS take a look at your posts and ban you for good you SUPER TROLL
First, surprised you have time to post since your lips are glued to Jessica's butt - clearly YOU aren't biased. And I see nothing wrong in questioning something in a thread. If it gets derailed it's because other people choose to get angry and post angry responses. Yes I choose to reply but that's because I don't see the reason to listen to people who rudely tell me to keep quiet. Nobody has the right to do so if the person isn't being rude, derogatory, etc.He did the same thing to my Christmas gift thread back in November. Derailed it into this same argument about gift giving. Now him and Jessica are just going at it again...
And surprise, surprise, now we have a thread that IS questioning the idea of gift giving so I am not unique.
If a thread is created telling racist jokes and asking others to post them, nobody is allowed to go on there and question if this thread is in good taste or it's wrong? The only thing that should be on there are racist jokes. That's what you are saying - you created a thread asking for gift ideas and the only thing acceptable to you is gift ideas. Nobody is allowed to question the idea?
And before you two point fingers, look in the mirrors because your two comments are also equally part of the problem as much you say mine are.
Are you pre-screening clients who have to show you a picture of themselves?I would. If I can't get into a session with a client, including being completely unattracted to them, I would not go through with the session. I clearly state on my site that I am not a YMMV type and it is why I have an "about you" section on my site. I have been told my site reads more like a dating profile then an escort site in some ways.
Problem is your opinion of what "clients" look like. You don't know. I don't know if you are projecting when you say fat and old but that is not who has shown up at my door.
If not, I don't see how anyone can only get good looking guys randomly showing up.
I think people question it because in some cases (not all), it seems the lady DOESN'T go above and beyond. And I think in some cases it's more than a little token, a token being a small, inexpensive albeit personal gift.Why do clients give gifts to SPs? 1. They can 2. They want to.
Bigger question is why TF do so many people care that they do??? Some here seem to think that there is a worldwide conspiracy theory by all women to dupe men and swindle then out of their hard earned cash.
Some provider / client relationships develop into a little more than a simple fee in exchange for a specified service. Just like people give Xmas gifts to their doctor (who gets paid plenty and can afford a bottle of single malt themselves) their hairstylist, housekeeper etc. It’s a token for going a bit above and beyond the usual. Giving a gift to show appreciation of someone even in the context of a business relationship feels good for some people. It’s sad that so many are so jaded that they feel they have to criticize this practice, rather than just carry on and behave in their sp/ client relationships however they see fit.
Yes in regular business there are people/companies that do things to show appreciation. But in some cases, it's marketing and is even billed as that (accounting wise).
Well done. You've actually commended somebody for taking what is arguably the worst approach and it's not surprising given your comments show you are a biased white knight. I have nothing personal against her, I haven't seen her so I have no opinion on her merits as an SP (you seem to push that point so much, I wonder if you are an actual shill because that's how it comes across). This is a public forum. People post threads, others comments, there's discussion, agreement, and disagreement. If somebody has issues with someone else, they are free to ignore them and their opinions. There's even a function. But forgive me if I don't feel the need to honor someone's request to basically shut it just because they package it under a combination of a polite request combined with a claim of continual harassment. I don't like some people's opinions so I ignore them if I want or I can choose to disagree with them. I don't tell them to keep it to themselves just because and frankly nobody has the right to do so, unless the person is clearly being rude, insulting, or displaying some form of discrimination or intent to harm.Yes but I wonder if he got the message yet.Jess gave him a good lesson on respect!!
Well done Jess:*
Using terms like "bully", "harassment", or "respect" is dangerous when it has nothing to do with it and is akin to crying wolf. Frankly, I think the bullying is coming from those who tell others to keep quiet then throw out terms to insinuate harassment or the like. I post opinions, usually related to the thread itself. If people want to sidetrack things, that's on them - they start it - this thread is an example - where did it all start? Answer that.
I still shake my head at the comment about me "bothering her" - how? By posting comments in a thread that reference something she has posted? Waiting for Trump to Tweet how he's bothered by all the late night comics who jump on his comments/Tweets and discuss them. They are definitely a bother...
I didnt read this whole thing But if you're buying gifts for an SP you're a straight up loser. We're all pathetic in this game but gifts are another level.
I've gotten a couple of small discounts but it due to obvious booking mistakes not becuase I have a long term relationship. As some guy said already, you're spending $250 + on this per hour and that's more than sufficient
I've gotten a couple of small discounts but it due to obvious booking mistakes not becuase I have a long term relationship. As some guy said already, you're spending $250 + on this per hour and that's more than sufficient
Yes, I have plenty who have sent a pic, social media profile with picture or given discretion's if themselves. So what?Are you pre-screening clients who have to show you a picture of themselves?
If not, I don't see how anyone can only get good looking guys randomly showing up.
Why is it so important to you that I don't like my clients or for me to think them something they are not. I am not telling you about your wants, likes, dislikes, so please stop trying to debate mine with me.
I guess it's about perspective. In some people's opinion, if you are paying $250 for sex you are a straight up loser. In others' opinion, if you are paying for sex, you are a straight up loser. One has to come to terms with one's own perspective. If you enjoy yourself and no harm done, rationalize it how you want.I didnt read this whole thing But if you're buying gifts for an SP you're a straight up loser. We're all pathetic in this game but gifts are another level.
I've gotten a couple of small discounts but it due to obvious booking mistakes not becuase I have a long term relationship. As some guy said already, you're spending $250 + on this per hour and that's more than sufficient
