Why do clients patronize SWs with gifts?

[Johnny Utah]

Wow. Didn’t think this would go this many pages.

“Because I can” is not a justifiably good reason. It works on everything really and doesn’t answer the question. It’s confrontational.

I do it to be nice. I love to cook so if I have the time, I prepare a snack. Or bring coffee or a treat. I just want to show appreciation and do something nice. I can’t afford lavish gifts nor do I want to give wine and chocolates which are not personal.

Even for a first time and possibly last time, at least I did something nice for somebody.

 

[lexicon4u]

If you're giving gifts its not sincere because you think you know the person when you really don't. She's just an actress and you're falling for it. Even box of chocolates is ridiculous...I haven't even given those to a regular girl let alone some escort

And again Ppl ask what's the harm? The harm is that it'll overvalue the girl and she'll increase the rates. There's only like one stripper id consider a tip for right now becuase her service is above and beyond the call but the majority don't go that far.

 

[lexicon4u]

And geez, is no one here friendly with the other service providers in their lives? Do people not tip their maids? Hairstylists? Basically anyone that provides a “service” ? Even restaurant tips are 20% these days..

This depends on all what their normal rates are.

Service folk at a rest get paid under min. wage so are more deserving of one. Hair dressers I tip rarely but understand more so why ppl do since their rates are just right.

Sp rates are mad expensive so no I don't tip SPa and wouldn't especially give gifts that are more reserved for women who might actually care about or even just my friends.

 

[TeeJay]

I find it completely irrational and fallicous for those who use the “Because I can.” as a justifiable argument.

What's to value when you've never even visited a person before?

Inadequacy
Bigger gift to compensate

I could not care less about someone "ruining" it by paying more
I personally think that person is a fool
If they pay say $500 & I pay $200 per session it's no different than if I negotiate a better contract in any other industry in the world

 

[Jeffeye99]

If Even box of chocolates is ridiculous...I haven't even given those to a regular girl let alone some escort

Wow. I fear for the next generation. (my apologies if my assumption that you are relatively young is incorrect)

 

[Samranchoi]

If you're giving gifts its not sincere because you think you know the person when you really don't. She's just an actress and you're falling for it. Even box of chocolates is ridiculous...I haven't even given those to a regular girl let alone some escort

And again Ppl ask what's the harm? The harm is that it'll overvalue the girl and she'll increase the rates. There's only like one stripper id consider a tip for right now becuase her service is above and beyond the call but the majority don't go that far.

And you know the stripper so well, lol. Your comments are totally ridiculous. You have no class whatsoever and frankly your way of thinking is well...............

 

[shack]

What is it with "slaves" and "pay pigs"? Just get a wife. She'll do all the things a findom does, and more, 24/7. No sex, boot to the nuts, verbal abuse, and so on.

Good one. Much funnier than what you post in politics.

 

[explorerzip]

No surprise that this thread would turn into yet another pity party over rates. A few things to consider:

1. If you don't want to give a gift, then don't. The reason somebody else gives a gift is none of your business and you're never going to change them.
2. If a girl chooses to raise her rates because of gifts (it's not) or any other reason it's their prerogative. Girls don't owe us any more explanation than that.

Some of you may think there's a conspiracy against you, but that's just how capitalism works.

 

[lexicon4u]

And you know the stripper so well, lol. Your comments are totally ridiculous. You have no class whatsoever and frankly your way of thinking is well...............

Come at me more. Yeah the stripper I see works hard and goes abovr and beyond with exceptional service so I would consider a tip because her reg rate with me is low. SP rates are off the charts so no thanks. That money is enough and some SPs I see although are great, I think the $$ is sufficient.

 

[lexicon4u]

Wow. I fear for the next generation. (my apologies if my assumption that you are relatively young is incorrect)

I do give gifts still with a reg chick, just not tacky chocolates. I give something personalized to her. Chocolates are like high school shit or something you'd give an SP

 

[Samranchoi]

Come at me more. Yeah the stripper I see works hard and goes abovr and beyond with exceptional service so I would consider a tip because her reg rate with me is low. SP rates are off the charts so no thanks. That money is enough and some SPs I see although are great, I think the $$ is sufficient.

Your comments make absolutely no sense Just like the one above. God, like I said R I D I C U L O U S!!!

 

[sempel]

Been away for a year or so and things seem to have gotten a whole lot more toxic. This reminds me of a thread about how some guys giving tips and booking girls for longer sessions was ruining the “market” for everyone else.. It’s like the gay marriage debate - it really doesn’t impact their lives at all but people can’t get over their own lived experience.

And geez, is no one here friendly with the other service providers in their lives? Do people not tip their maids? Hairstylists? Basically anyone that provides a “service” ? Even restaurant tips are 20% these days..

When is the last time anyone paid their maid or hairstylist $200+/hour? As much as some people try and claim SP poverty and ladies deserve tips for going above and beyond, a good (key word "good") service provider will do nicely if not very well for herself. I just saw an ad for one service provider listing her calendar for the next 2 months. In it are 2 vacations with clients. I don't see her needing anything more than the rate she is charging. So when people say they tip other services, let's not ignore the fact that most of them are earning much lower wages comparatively. And then if anyone wants to say the SP rates are irrelevant, if she goes above and beyond, I ask are people tipping their plumbers, auto mechanics, or other services? I'm guessing that's mostly a no.

If you're giving gifts its not sincere because you think you know the person when you really don't. She's just an actress and you're falling for it. Even box of chocolates is ridiculous...I haven't even given those to a regular girl let alone some escort

And again Ppl ask what's the harm? The harm is that it'll overvalue the girl and she'll increase the rates. There's only like one stripper id consider a tip for right now becuase her service is above and beyond the call but the majority don't go that far.

I really don't see this happening too often. I certainly see some providers becoming entitled thinking everybody should gift them. I see them thinking bigger/better. But I don't see girls thinking rate bump unless all clients are showering her with lavish gifts making her think they will also pay more because they like her so much.

Come at me more. Yeah the stripper I see works hard and goes abovr and beyond with exceptional service so I would consider a tip because her reg rate with me is low. SP rates are off the charts so no thanks. That money is enough and some SPs I see although are great, I think the $$ is sufficient.

Agreed. Some of these ladies earn enough and could very well afford to buy many of the luxury items being gifted to them. It's the little items, the romantic ones like wine/flowers/chocolates, that I don't see a lady buying for herself unless she's initiating i.e. gifting the client.

 

[Smallcock]

I do it to be nice. I love to cook so if I have the time, I prepare a snack. Or bring coffee or a treat. I just want to show appreciation and do something nice. I can’t afford lavish gifts nor do I want to give wine and chocolates which are not personal.

Even for a first time and possibly last time, at least I did something nice for somebody.

A nice gesture but I would bet most SPs toss your homemade snacks right into the trash after you leave. Who would trust eating something that a stranger made for them?

 

[oil&gas]

Next time he should make her drink or eat his treat
before his eyes.

 

[sempel]

A nice gesture but I would bet most SPs toss your homemade snacks right into the trash after you leave. Who would trust eating something that a stranger made for them?

So, they trust said stranger enough to let them through the door and have sex but not enough to eat a homemade snack? That makes sense. And most smart (or devilish) guys would try one with her right at the beginning so she knows what she has to look forward to when they are done.

 

[oil&gas]

Well, the SP at least can see to it that the client
is clean by having a pre-session shower. She wouldn't
know how good his hygiene is in the preparation
and handling of the treat.

 

[sempel]

Well, the SP at least can see to it that the client
is clean by having a pre-session shower. She wouldn't
know how good his hygiene is in the preparation
and handling of the treat.

Just because a guy showers, doesn't mean he's clean. Have heard enough horror stories about guys who shower too quick, don't use soap, just run the water but don't step in, etc. The only guarantee is SF2 so the lady witnesses the guy cleaning himself. And some women don't shower properly. Seen many MPA's shower for 30s and use 1 squeeze of soap and not using it all over. Seen one SP wash her private parts via the sink and not shower afterwards.

 

[Samranchoi]

Well, the SP at least can see to it that the client
is clean by having a pre-session shower. She wouldn't
know how good his hygiene is in the preparation
and handling of the treat.

The last SF2 that I had was probably the best ever. And yes, she made sure I was squeaky clean. Gift giving does have its benefits

 

[Jasmina]

Realistically, how often do you think us ladies are actually getting such big gifts as laptops/pricey cell phones/expensive handbags etc etc? I know there are some ladies who like to brand that they are swimming in such gifts but we all know it is largely an embellishment meant to attract spenders (I doubt it works given the threads we see on this topic), most ladies may receive maybe a few throughout their entire careers, if that, generally by long time clients. The real common gifts are chocolates, wine and lingerie, lunch or dinners out with those few clients who do get to the next level of off the clock time, coffees or teas brought to sessions, and once in a blue moon, flowers (usually valentines day).

I wouldn't say dark, more just unhealthy/delusional. I feel that a client who gifts a laptop, for instance, isn't thinking, "hey I appreciate you so here's a laptop". That seems absurd.

I'm not against small gestures, tips, etc. As I said, it's when you go above and beyond what is normal for you in your everyday experiences. If you are normally giving and generous, and that carries over, but doesn't go above and beyond then fine. If you're frugal but start unloading all your cash on an SP, there's a problem. If you don't have the funds, don't usually believe in giving just to give, aren't the type to treat your friends, and so on, then why give extra to a SP? It has already been said it won't get you anything extra, and we're all appreciated alike, so why would someone give extra if they aren't naturally generous, which I've already accounted for?

Edit to add: until he no longer has to pay you for your time, I don't believe an SP can put herself in the same category as friend even. So if he wouldn't gift another person who provides him with a paid service in a similar fashion, then I believe it's not from a healthy place. So perhaps even more stringent criteria than above/previous.

 

[Theobservantone]

Realistically, how often do you think us ladies are actually getting such big gifts as laptops/pricey cell phones/expensive handbags etc etc? I know there are some ladies who like to brand that they are swimming in such gifts but we all know it is largely an embellishment meant to attract spenders (I doubt it works given the threads we see on this topic), most ladies may receive maybe a few throughout their entire careers, if that, generally by long time clients. The real common gifts are chocolates, wine and lingerie, lunch or dinners out with those few clients who do get to the next level of off the clock time, coffees or teas brought to sessions, and once in a blue moon, flowers (usually valentines day).

Sounds like we agree....Ive brought drinks for a SP and dont see much wrong with it as it was only $10 or so, the same or less amount of money Id give to a homeless person I can get nothing from. But even though I could gift a laptop with a bit of planning, I never would and think it comes from an unhealthy place...youre no longer just being nice, regardless of the duration of your business relationship