Who will you be voting for??

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Are you really that lazy or did you conveniently miss this part?
" Liberal MP Adam van Koeverden, the parliamentary secretary to Guilbeault, aggressively pushed back against Poilievre's motion Tuesday. He called the Conservative leader a climate-change denier who threatens the country's future."

Are you kidding?
I said this in my previous post: "The article opens with that but I dont see where he called Pierre a climate change denier."
Yeah, I saw that line.
But where in the article does it explicitly quote the MP calling Pierre a climate change denier?

Nothing wrong with someone condemning racists. But that's not what happened here

Unless you didn't read the article Trudeau made the comment in light of a protest organized by the group La Meute.
He was right.
Here is a brief from wikipedia:

La Meute is a far -right, identitarian and nationalist pressure group opposed to illegal immigration and Islam.
Police officers, experts and the majority of journalists place La Meute on the far right . It is notably described as xenophobic Islamophobic supremacist, ultranationalist and even populist.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

The Conservatives surged ahead in the polls because people thought Trudeau would not be able to stand up to Trump.

Wow, nice mental gymnastics there.
Trudeau's rating had been tanking for like 2 years and reached a low point when Freeland quit.
Nothing to do with Trump.
Pierre capitalized on hatred for Trudeau, leveraged inflation and shot up in popularity.
But after Trump came to power he just appeared a weak leader pushing MAGA-lite.
Which is why he lost his own riding.
He needs to take responsibility for that.
As for Trump preferring Carney, it is to take credit as usual.
As if he is king maker.
But he said this before Pierre's fortunes tanked.
So does he actually prefer Carney?

 

[Skoob]

Are you kidding?
I said this in my previous post: "The article opens with that but I dont see where he called Pierre a climate change denier."
Yeah, I saw that line.
But where in the article does it explicitly quote the MP calling Pierre a climate change denier?

Unless you didn't read the article Trudeau made the comment in light of a protest organized by the group La Meute.
He was right.
Here is a brief from wikipedia:

Are you serious?

Your response proves 3 things:
- all you read is headlines
- you don't actually read the body of an article
- you desperately distract when cornered

I even copied/pasted/bolded the exact line you are playing dumb about. It's in the body of the article not in the "opening".

Never ask me to prove anything to you because it's a waste of time and I'll remind you of this.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Are you serious?

Your response proves 3 things:
- all you read is headlines
- you don't actually read the body of an article
- you desperately distract when cornered

I even copied/pasted/bolded the exact line you are playing dumb about. It's in the body of the article not in the "opening".

Never ask me to prove anything to you because it's a waste of time and I'll remind you of this.

You are the one who read the first line in the article.
I read the entire article and I made my reply.
I literally said, "Yes the article opens with that".
You are just gaslighting now and grasping at straws.
Show me in the article where the MP is directly quoted saying Pierre is a climate change denier.

 

[Skoob]

Wow, nice mental gymnastics there.
Trudeau's rating had been tanking for like 2 years and reached a low point when Freeland quit.
Nothing to do with Trump.
Pierre capitalized on hatred for Trudeau, leveraged inflation and shot up in popularity.
But after Trump came to power he just appeared a weak leader pushing MAGA-lite.
Which is why he lost his own riding.
He needs to take responsibility for that.
As for Trump preferring Carney, it is to take credit as usual.
As if he is king maker.
But he said this before Pierre's fortunes tanked.
So does he actually prefer Carney?

Trudeau's rating had been tanking slowly. Then when Trump won the election, he started turning on his own party and this resulting in his ratings plummeting more. Strangely enough, his approval rating started going up in Dec up to March hitting the same point (47%) as it was in Feb 2021. I guess people liked him more after he resigned? Proof that Liberals are just confused.

The "Trump-lite" thing is proof of the brainwashing the Liberal campaign has done on you. Poilievre always pushed back against Trump. He has never endorsed him and has publicly stated this many times. Even Trump didn't like him.

You are a classic brainwashing victim.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Trudeau's rating had been tanking slowly. Then when Trump won the election, he started turning on his own party and this resulting in his ratings plummeting more. Strangely enough, his approval rating started going up in Dec up to March hitting the same point (47%) as it was in Feb 2021. I guess people liked him more after he resigned? Proof that Liberals are just confused.

The "Trump-lite" thing is proof of the brainwashing the Liberal campaign has done on you. Poilievre always pushed back against Trump. He has never endorsed him and has publicly stated this many times. Even Trump didn't like him.

You are a classic brainwashing victim.

Trudeau's rating when Trump won was sub 30%.
It was 43% in 2022 Dec, and had been declining steadily since then.
So, it is untrue that Trudeau's ratings had anything to do with Trump.
The Liberal gained a lead over conservatives after Carney took over, and Trump announced Tariffs.
Pierre was still talking about 2 genders or whatever MAGA-lite talking points of the day.
Hence he lost.
And what about the video that I posted are you refuting?

 

[squeezer]

Your "so what" response only makes you look even more hypocritical (if that's even possible).

I will say it again, Justin was to soft on the twats!

No silly, I didn't say it was Carney's fault that GM is laying off all those people...I asked you what Carney is going to do about it? That's the reason why he won the election right? To "stand up to Trump".

So? What's he going to do?

ps have you ever thought for a second that Trump "is smitten" over Carney because he knows how easily it will be able to control him? (Trump loves people like you!)

Oh I see, so this is the first face-to-face meeting since Carney officially got the mandate to represent Canada and actually took his seat. Meanwhile, does Pee Pee even have a seat in the House? Just checking.


It’s hilarious—you keep demanding to know what Carney’s going to do before he’s even had a proper sit-down with your beloved clown. Honestly, how can anyone possibly develop a strategy before meeting the human headline himself?


But please, do go on parroting the same tired lines while blindly defending your clown Trumputin—it’s so impressively predictable, it’s almost an art form. Truly, you make it far too easy.

 

[Skoob]

You are the one who read the first line in the article.
I read the entire article and I made my reply.
I literally said, "Yes the article opens with that".
You are just gaslighting now and grasping at straws.
Show me in the article where the MP is directly quoted saying Pierre is a climate change denier.

Why do gaslighters always accuse the other person of gaslighting?

You did not read the article. I had already showed you and even put that part in bold:

" Liberal MP Adam van Koeverden, the parliamentary secretary to Guilbeault, aggressively pushed back against Poilievre's motion Tuesday. He called the Conservative leader a climate-change denier who threatens the country's future."

So your whole "yes the article opens with that" tactic makes no sense because the article does not "open with that". It's in the body of the article which you didn't read.

Give it up already so you don't keep looking foolish.

 

[Skoob]

Wow, nice mental gymnastics there.
Trudeau's rating had been tanking for like 2 years and reached a low point when Freeland quit.
Nothing to do with Trump.
Pierre capitalized on hatred for Trudeau, leveraged inflation and shot up in popularity.
But after Trump came to power he just appeared a weak leader pushing MAGA-lite.
Which is why he lost his own riding.
He needs to take responsibility for that.
As for Trump preferring Carney, it is to take credit as usual.
As if he is king maker.
But he said this before Pierre's fortunes tanked.
So does he actually prefer Carney?

Poilievre was the reason why Trudeau was tanking because he was calling him out contantly on his failed policies and especially the carbon tax. He even requested a "carbon tax election" ffs.
Liberals decided to support Carney even though he adopted many Conservative policies. He fooled them into thinking he would "stand up for Canada" and he sucked them in.
Trump likes Carney much more than Poilievre. Tell us why?

 

[HungSowel]

Trump likes Carney much more than Poilievre. Tell us why?

It is the same reason why Trump fell in love with kim and talked about Arnold Palmer's giant cock, Trump is gay as fuck.

 

[Skoob]

I will say it again, Justin was to soft on the twats!




Oh I see, so this is the first face-to-face meeting since Carney officially got the mandate to represent Canada and actually took his seat. Meanwhile, does Pee Pee even have a seat in the House? Just checking.


It’s hilarious—you keep demanding to know what Carney’s going to do before he’s even had a proper sit-down with your beloved clown. Honestly, how can anyone possibly develop a strategy before meeting the human headline himself?


But please, do go on parroting the same tired lines while blindly defending your clown Trumputin—it’s so impressively predictable, it’s almost an art form. Truly, you make it far too easy.

You know who else doesn't have a seat? Chandra Arya
You know how long he held his seat in Nepean? 10 years
Tell us who has his seat now and why he wasn't allowed to run for it again?

It's hilarious you spent the last few years crying over Poilievre not releasing his platform and now can't answer a simple question about how Carney will "stand up to Trump"!
ps he as PM before the election and didn't "stand up to Trump" and had a meeting with him today and couldn't get a word in at all! Lol!

You've been played...again! Lol!

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Why do gaslighters always accuse the other person of gaslighting?

You did not read the article. I had already showed you and even put that part in bold:

" Liberal MP Adam van Koeverden, the parliamentary secretary to Guilbeault, aggressively pushed back against Poilievre's motion Tuesday. He called the Conservative leader a climate-change denier who threatens the country's future."

So your whole "yes the article opens with that" tactic makes no sense because the article does not "open with that". It's in the body of the article which you didn't read.

Give it up already so you don't keep looking foolish.

I read the entire article.
I said in my very first response that yes the article opens with that, but does not show a direct quote from the MP.
And yes, the article infact does open with that.
It is the very first sentence. Pic below for proof.
Stop grasping at straws and show me where MP Adam said that.
It seems the article is interpreting the MP in such a manner, than the MP actually saying what the article is alleging he said.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Poilievre was the reason why Trudeau was tanking because he was calling him out contantly on his failed policies and especially the carbon tax. He even requested a "carbon tax election" ffs.
Liberals decided to support Carney even though he adopted many Conservative policies. He fooled them into thinking he would "stand up for Canada" and he sucked them in.
Trump likes Carney much more than Poilievre. Tell us why?

So you ignored the video I posted where Trump said that his views align with Pierre?
Pierre wasn't the reason Trudeau was tanking.
Are you saying Trudeau was doing such a great job and Pierre single handedly took him down? lmfao.
Trudeau tanked because of his own actions.
Pierre just capitalized on sloganeering and MAGA-lite messaging.
Until of course Trump ruined it for him.
And Carney's platform is not the conservative platform.
It is his own.
After the shellacking this election this is the new conservative mental gymnastics I guess.
If the Liberals do well, it is because they copied the conservatives.
If the Liberals don't do well, it is because it is still the Trudeau party. lmfao.

 

[Skoob]

I read the entire article.
I said in my very first response that yes the article opens with that, but does not show a direct quote from the MP.
And yes, the article infact does open with that.
It is the very first sentence. Pic below for proof.
Stop grasping at straws and show me where MP Adam said that.
It seems the article is interpreting the MP in such a manner, than the MP actually saying what the article is alleging he said.
View attachment 435963

Are you really that lazy? You don't believe what the CBC posted about what he said?
How about the actual notes from the House of Commons then?



Mr. Adam van Koeverden: Mr. Speaker, even still, the Conservative caucus of climate change deniers is heckling over there. I know Conservatives do not believe in climate change
Mr. Adam van Koeverden:
Mr. Speaker, that member is one of the most vociferous climate change deniers in the House of Commons.

https://www.ourcommons.ca/documentviewer/en/44-1/house/sitting-296/hansard


Are you done with your distraction yet? Or do you just like looking foolish?

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Mr. Adam van Koeverden: Mr. Speaker, even still, the Conservative caucus of climate change deniers is heckling over there. I know Conservatives do not believe in climate change

That is what I said in my first post!
He appears to call conservatives climate change deniers in general, but to be fair, a lot of them are.
I did not see him call Pierre a climate change denier as you alleged.
Even your post does not prove it to be so.

 

[Skoob]

So you ignored the video I posted where Trump said that his views align with Pierre?
Pierre wasn't the reason Trudeau was tanking.
Are you saying Trudeau was doing such a great job and Pierre single handedly took him down? lmfao.
Trudeau tanked because of his own actions.
Pierre just capitalized on sloganeering and MAGA-lite messaging.
Until of course Trump ruined it for him.
And Carney's platform is not the conservative platform.
It is his own.
After the shellacking this election this is the new conservative mental gymnastics I guess.
If the Liberals do well, it is because they copied the conservatives.
If the Liberals don't do well, it is because it is still the Trudeau party. lmfao.

Shallacking? By having the largest opposition in decades? That's your definition of shellacking?

I've listed all the similarities between their platforms already. You keep ignoring it because it doesn't jive with your brainwashing.

Poilievre wanted a carbon tax election...Trudeau didn't give him one. So yes, that was Trudeau's action.
Poilievre has been campaigning on the same policies for years, nothing changed on his side.

Trump just liked Carney more. Liberal supporters didn't believe that and thought it was a ploy.

He made the comment about Poilievre on January 6th...Carney wasn't on his radar yet. Once he was, he really liked Carney and it looks like he got what he wanted.

Tell me honestly...why would Trump prefer Carney over Poilievre and why were Liberals fooled?

 

[squeezer]

You know who else doesn't have a seat? Chandra Arya
You know how long he held his seat in Nepean? 10 years
Tell us who has his seat now and why he wasn't allowed to run for it again?

It's hilarious you spent the last few years crying over Poilievre not releasing his platform and now can't answer a simple question about how Carney will "stand up to Trump"!
ps he as PM before the election and didn't "stand up to Trump" and had a meeting with him today and couldn't get a word in at all! Lol!

You've been played...again! Lol!

Chandra? Oh, come on—give me a freaking break. Of course he was replaced. That seat was cleared for Carney, the incoming PM who just bulldozed right past your guy, Mr. Perpetually Platformless. It’s not betrayal—it’s called an upgrade.

Let’s talk about Trumputin the clown—the guy you still seem to defend like he’s the second coming of Churchill. Remember how much he loathed Poilievre? Treated him like a mosquito buzzing around Mar-a-Lago. But when he saw Carney? Suddenly the tone changed. That wasn't disdain—that was respect. Maybe even intimidation. Trump knows Carney actually understands how economies work beyond shouting “low taxes” into a microphone.

Seriously, the irony of you mocking people for asking about Trump when your guy couldn’t release a platform for years is hilarious. Pee Pee ducked every meaningful question, served up vibes instead of policies, and you still backed him like he was delivering the Sermon on the Mount.

So yeah—someone got played. Again. Maybe next time don’t put your chips on the guy whose entire campaign was just “I’m angry, vote for me.” while he's serving coffee and donuts to twats illegally occupying a city and a bridge.

 

[K Douglas]

Lets just hope its the end of populism in Canada.
Though we still have DoFo pretending to be trump here.

Conservative populism is the way of the future. If we don't start to understand and embrace it, the world as we know it will collapse.
Oh and Dougie is in no way shape or form a conservative populist, let alone a conservative. He's a disgrace.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Shallacking? By having the largest opposition in decades? That's your definition of shellacking?

I've listed all the similarities between their platforms already. You keep ignoring it because it doesn't jive with your brainwashing.

Poilievre wanted a carbon tax election...Trudeau didn't give him one. So yes, that was Trudeau's action.
Poilievre has been campaigning on the same policies for years, nothing changed on his side.

Trump just liked Carney more. Liberal supporters didn't believe that and thought it was a ploy.

He made the comment about Poilievre on January 6th...Carney wasn't on his radar yet. Once he was, he really liked Carney and it looks like he got what he wanted.

Tell me honestly...why would Trump prefer Carney over Poilievre and why were Liberals fooled?

The largest opposition is just some NDP and Liberal ridings going to the cons and yes that is an accomplishment.
But blowing a 20+ point lead within 6 weeks, with the leader of the party losing his own seat he held for 21 years is a shellacking.
Similarities exist because the conservatives took the same positions as the Liberals on many issues, mostly relating to tariff response.
You can only do so much with tariff response anyway.
The only policy where Trudeau and Pierre differed on, but Carney agreed with, was the carbon tax.
Even so not so much for increasing mining of natural resources but to do away with a tax that was ineffective and politically unhelpful.
So it wasn't that much of an alignment.
So Carney's policies were unique and his own.
Nothing to do with the conservative platform.
The conservative platform was released after the Liberal platform too, so if anyone copied anything, it was the cons.
Trump clearly said in January when Pierre's chances were looking great, that he liked him.
When the tide started turning in Carney's favour he pivoted.
Of course he did because that is Trump.
He just wanted to pretend to be the king maker but his opinions on Canadian candidates were a non-factor.
Canadians chose Carney because Pierre was pushing MAGA-lite and when faced with a real issue (tariffs), he came across as feeble and unable to deal with Trump.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Conservative populism is the way of the future. If we don't start to understand and embrace it, the world as we know it will collapse.

Well, then be prepared for a 5th Liberal term.
The Liberals have and will be admitting a grand total of 4.6M permanent residents until 2027. (2015 to 2027).
3 years for citizenship.
So you do the math on new voters.
New immigrants are more likely to vote Liberal.
This election showed you that conservative populism aka Nazism aka MAGA or MAGA-lite, lost Pierre his own seat that he held for 21 years.
So you tell me how well it is going to work out for conservative populism in the future.
Even as a Liberal voter one might consider that too much of Liberal rule without change lol.
So conservatives need to go back to being regular conservatives.

Immigrants to 2nd-generation Canadians more likely to favour Liberals, poll finds

People who immigrated to Canada – or are within two generations of family members who did – are more likely to support the Liberals than the Conservatives, according to a new survey.

www.ctvnews.ca