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Who will you be voting for??

Who gets your vote?

  • Liberal

    Votes: 56 41.2%
  • Conservatives

    Votes: 64 47.1%
  • NDP

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Green

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Bloc Quebecois

    Votes: 3 2.2%
  • People's Party

    Votes: 7 5.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 5 3.7%

  • Total voters
    136
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Skoob

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That is what I said in my first post!
He appears to call conservatives climate change deniers in general, but to be fair, a lot of them are.
I did not see him call Pierre a climate change denier as you alleged.
Even your post does not prove it to be so.
Why on earth are you tap dancing with semantics here?

Is Poilievre not a Conservative leading the party in parliament where these discussions and accusations occur? Someone responding to him and directing these accusations are not directing them to him?????? OMFG you are desperate.

Have you done any searches for the amount of times these accusations have been thrown?

If you recall, I said Liberals called people climate change deniers if they didn't support the carbon tax...I proved that to you.

Stop tap dancing and looking foolish.
 
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Skoob

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Chandra? Oh, come on—give me a freaking break. Of course he was replaced. That seat was cleared for Carney, the incoming PM who just bulldozed right past your guy, Mr. Perpetually Platformless. It’s not betrayal—it’s called an upgrade.

Let’s talk about Trumputin the clown—the guy you still seem to defend like he’s the second coming of Churchill. Remember how much he loathed Poilievre? Treated him like a mosquito buzzing around Mar-a-Lago. But when he saw Carney? Suddenly the tone changed. That wasn't disdain—that was respect. Maybe even intimidation. Trump knows Carney actually understands how economies work beyond shouting “low taxes” into a microphone.

Seriously, the irony of you mocking people for asking about Trump when your guy couldn’t release a platform for years is hilarious. Pee Pee ducked every meaningful question, served up vibes instead of policies, and you still backed him like he was delivering the Sermon on the Mount.

So yeah—someone got played. Again. Maybe next time don’t put your chips on the guy whose entire campaign was just “I’m angry, vote for me.” while he's serving coffee and donuts to twats illegally occupying a city and a bridge.
He was replaced by a white guy. Where's the outrage? Or is being racist now ok because it's by the political person you prefer? Hmmmm...I'll let you sort out your hypocrisy on that one.

Trump loves Carney.

Liberal voters were convinced he didn't. Because that would be bad.

Trump got his guy. You were fooled.

Any idea why Trump would love him over Poilievre and why Liberal supporters would think that would be a good thing?
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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Is Poilievre not a Conservative leading the party in parliament where these discussions and accusations occur? Someone responding to him and directing these accusations are not directing them to him?????? OMFG you are desperate.
Was he responding to him?
Check your notes you posted.
He wasn't even responding to Pierre.
He was responding to Ted Falk.
I dont know about Ted Falk or his positions on climate change but it does not matter.
Many conservatives are climate change deniers, but a little political hyperbole and name calling is expected.
Didn't Pierre call Trudeau a 'Wacko' and get ejected from the house? Same thing.
 

squeezer

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Conservative populism is the way of the future. If we don't start to understand and embrace it, the world as we know it will collapse.
Oh and Dougie is in no way shape or form a conservative populist, let alone a conservative. He's a disgrace.
Holy shit, I just spit my lemon water all over my laptop laughing!!! LMFAO
 

squeezer

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He was replaced by a white guy. Where's the outrage? Or is being racist now ok because it's by the political person you prefer? Hmmmm...I'll let you sort out your hypocrisy on that one.

Trump loves Carney.

Liberal voters were convinced he didn't. Because that would be bad.

Trump got his guy. You were fooled.

Any idea why Trump would love him over Poilievre and why Liberal supporters would think that would be a good thing?
Do you ever get anything right??? I'm not even going to answer this time because it's a waste of time. Go away!
 

Skoob

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Was he responding to him?
Check your notes you posted.
He wasn't even responding to Pierre.
He was responding to Ted Falk.
I dont know about Ted Falk or his positions on climate change but it does not matter.
Many conservatives are climate change deniers, but a little political hyperbole and name calling is expected.
Didn't Pierre call Trudeau a 'Wacko' and get ejected from the house? Same thing.
The point...that is clearly lost on you...is that the same people who called (let's keep it simple...) other people climate change deniers, are the same ones who scrapped it to get elected. That's how desperate they were that they could go from one extreme to the other.

Using your example...That's like Pierre calling an entire group of people wackos for decriminalizing some hard drugs (which was the reason btw)...and then when trying to get elected, decriminalizes the same drugs.

Are you so brainwashed and tired from all the tap dancing you've been doing that you can't see the hypocrisy there?
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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The point...that is clearly lost on you...is that the same people who called (let's keep it simple...) other people climate change deniers, are the same ones who scrapped it to get elected.
Yes, and they scrapped it for different reasons.
The conservatives wanted to scrap it because it was a Liberal initiative and they lied that the carbon tax was majorly inflationary or because they denied climate change.
The Liberals scrapped it because it was ineffective (only 6% reduction in emissions), and politically unhelpful.
The Liberal reasoning was more honest.
 
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Frankfooter

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Conservative populism is the way of the future. If we don't start to understand and embrace it, the world as we know it will collapse.
Oh and Dougie is in no way shape or form a conservative populist, let alone a conservative. He's a disgrace.
wow, the world will collapse.
how long will it take?
 

Skoob

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Yes, and they scrapped it for different reasons.
The conservatives wanted to scrap it because it was a Liberal initiative and they lied that the carbon tax was majorly inflationary or because they denied climate change.
The Liberals scrapped it because it was ineffective (only 6% reduction in emissions), and politically unhelpful.
The Liberal reasoning was more honest.
The Liberals scrapped it because it was a ponzi scheme no one wanted or trusted any longer and people had enough of it being forced upon them. If they did not fear losing the election they would not have scrapped it and would continue to increase it and berate anyone who dared to criticize it like they were doing for 6 years.
If it hasn't downed on you the reason why people were criticizing it in the first place was because they knew it did not help the environment.

Their own MPs were crying to Trudeau about getting rid of it in their respective ridings for fear of losing the election.

Deep down I know you understand how badly you've been played but you are trying to save face right now. But it's coming across as brainwashed Liberal talking points. Just wanted to let you know that in case you thought you were fooling anyone other than yourself.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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The Liberals scrapped it because it was a ponzi scheme....
Deep down I know you understand how badly you've been played but you are trying to save face right now.
The Liberals explained why they scrapped the carbon tax.
Carney explained that it was ineffective and politically unhelpful.
I have also told you many times that the carbon tax was not even an election issue for me.
I don't care whether or not the carbon tax exists.
I won't care tomorrow if it is brought back.
I only cared that we did not elect maple MAGA into power.
So I would have voted Carney even if he did not pause the carbon tax.
The carbon tax is an issue only for you and other conservatives.
 
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Skoob

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The Liberals explained why they scrapped the carbon tax.
Carney explained that it was ineffective and politically unhelpful.
I have also told you many times that the carbon tax was not even an election issue for me.
I don't care whether or not the carbon tax exists.
I won't care tomorrow if it is brought back.
I only cared that we did not elect maple MAGA into power.
So I would have voted Carney even if he did not pause the carbon tax.
The carbon tax is an issue only for you and other conservatives.
You should care. Because the people you support lied to you about the effectiveness and importance of a tax they just made up and forced everyone to pay until they decided winning an election was more important.

Then they convinced you that Carney was the saviour and you swallowed that.

If you're biggest fear was not electing a "maple maga" then you're fear has actually been realized. You just haven't come to terms with it yet because the Liberals are the masters of deception.
 

squeezer

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You should care. Because the people you support lied to you about the effectiveness and importance of a tax they just made up and forced everyone to pay until they decided winning an election was more important.

Then they convinced you that Carney was the saviour and you swallowed that.

If you're biggest fear was not electing a "maple maga" then you're fear has actually been realized. You just haven't come to terms with it yet because the Liberals are the masters of deception.
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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You should care. Because the people you support lied to you about the effectiveness and importance of a tax they just made up and forced everyone to pay until they decided winning an election was more important.
I dont care.
I get a small rebate every 3 months and the tax's impact on inflation is minor.
It is not an election issue for me one way or another.
Maple MAGA are the problem.
 
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Skoob

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I dont care.
I get a small rebate every 3 months and the tax's impact on inflation is minor.
It is not an election issue for me one way or another.
Maple MAGA are the problem.
You were lied to for 6 years by the same people you just voted for because they just fooled you again.

Carney is Trump's preference. Think about that for a moment. Then tell us why?
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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You were lied to for 6 years by the same people you just voted for because they just fooled you again.

Carney is Trump's preference. Think about that for a moment. Then tell us why?
They didn't lie.
As I mentioned before the carbon tax's impact on emission reduction was 6%.
So it did have an effect, albeit minimal.
Trump's preference for Carney or Pierre is a non-factor.
Pierre's preference for MAGA on the other hand, is a huge factor.
 
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Skoob

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They didn't lie.
As I mentioned before the carbon tax's impact on emission reduction was 6%.
So it did have an effect, albeit minimal.
Trump's preference for Carney or Pierre is a non-factor.
Pierre's preference for MAGA on the other hand, is a huge factor.
So they lied for 6 years and you even swallow their number of 6% after that? hahaha they have you hooked! You actually believe everything they tell you! Wow!

So they conducted a forced experiment that failed and used our money for that.

Trump's preference for Carney means Carney will play ball with Trump's maga plans while at the same time, adopting the Conservatives' plans. Are you so lost you can't even see that?

You echo the Liberal talking points perfectly.
 
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