United Healthcare CEO shot and killed in Manhattan

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For those searching for the video which is posted in page 4 or couldn't use youtube search engine.


I need to create a separate thread about Private clinics here in Ontario because I am confused how people have described it or worded it.

Are "Breast augmentation is surgery to increase breast size. It's also called augmentation mammoplasty. " performed by our Gov't on public health care system or is this a private clinic ( 100% paid by the patient? ) or partially paid by Ontario tax payers?

I heard a woman in the gym claiming her female friend died while getting BA in private clinic. Her claim was that if it was done in a hospital ( Ontario ) there are other Doctors there to help if anything goes wrong.

Now I spoke to strippers and what I also understood BA can be done by a private doctor at the On gov't hospital. The private Doc books the appointment. So what is true?
 

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Since this thread touches on the topic of US healthcare, what's even more insane than their for-profit healthcare insurance scam system that is expensive and then doesn't pay out when people need it is that the US spends FAR more tax money on healthcare than any other Western country and has a much lower life expectancy.

Just found this graphic:

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Thank you for introducing facts.
 
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Jury nullification is the means by which the people of a society can send a message about injustice to its government. Considering the complete bipartisan concencus around this USA society may just be ready to send that message if given anything in the evidence to do so.
I agree that there is a real chance of a hung jury after hung jury but there’s also a real chance of a lethal injection so chances are he’d be offered a plea to a manslaughter
 

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Quebec has a parallel private system. There are private clinics in all major cities now. From family medicine to surgery. Never understood why other provinces didn't follow. 30% of surgery done in private clinic are actually sent by public hospitals. You then get the care of a private clinic for free. The public sector found out that overall cost is similar.

I went private just to get a blood samples 2 months ago. My doctor had full results within 24h. All for 60$. Versus waiting 1-2 hours and a week for results in public clinics...
No its not a parallel private system. A parallel private system means its fully private i.e. patients pay out of pocket or through private health coverage. What you're referring to is private delivery which every province has.
 

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Thank you for introducing facts.
It boggles the mind that so many Americans are actually opposed to universal healthcare when they're already paying more than twice per person what Western European countries, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, etc., are paying for something we're not charged at the point of service.

For what Americans are already paying, not only should everyone have access to universal healthcare, it should be the best universal healthcare available. Instead, they pay way more than we do in healthcare taxes and don't have access to it (unless they're 65-plus or grossing less than about $12,000/year, which almost no one who works does)
 

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Teletest.ca for STI testing is superior to any other way. Hassle Free Clinic is actually the biggest most inefficient hassle lol.

Teletest, you get results within 2 days and don’t need to talk face to face with the doctor to get your lab requisition. Just print it at home. Go Lab. Then check results the next day(s).

They do throat swabs too!

I am really happy with the convenience of their service. I would gladly pay double what they charge. It’s like 39 bucks
I did not know about this thanks Kelly.
 
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It boggles the mind that so many Americans are actually opposed to universal healthcare when they're already paying more than twice per person what Western European countries, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, etc., are paying for something we're not charged at the point of service.

For what Americans are already paying, not only should everyone have access to universal healthcare, it should be the best universal healthcare available. Instead, they pay way more than we do in healthcare taxes and don't have access to it (unless they're 65-plus or grossing less than about $12,000/year, which almost no one who works does)
I noticed some Americans were telling me how they hated Obama care because it made their cheap policy no longer valid. The reason it was validated because it had high deductibles and covered very little and had an annual limit on payouts like 11k. (Which would not cover cancer, stroke, heart attack, or any significant injury). These sham policies were loved I believe because the thought process was the monthly premium, not what it would cover (these sham policies were loved until they neededthem but hugely profitable).. Thus significant injury = massive bills and then loans, second mortgages, then bankruptcy.

Reminds me of an old Monty python sketch with Mr Devious the insurance agent. Watch from 2:06 in this clip, and watch til at least 3:15.
 
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I noticed some Americans were telling me how they hated Obama care because it made their cheap policy no longer valid. The reason it was validated because it had high deductibles and covered very little and had an annual limit on payouts like 11k. (Which would not cover cancer, stroke, heart attack, or any significant injury). These sham policies were loved I believe because the thought process was the monthly premium, not what it would cover (these sham policies were loved until they neededthem but hugely profitable).. Thus significant injury = massive bills and then loans, second mortgages, then bankruptcy.

Reminds me of an old Monty python sketch with Mr Devious the insurance agent. Watch from 2:06 in this clip, and watch til at least 3:15.
As usual, the Pythons have the answer!
 

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No its not a parallel private system. A parallel private system means its fully private i.e. patients pay out of pocket or through private health coverage. What you're referring to is private delivery which every province has.
It is a full parallel private system. We pay out of pocket. These clinics take our Quebec public insurance number only to identify us so they can update our public record.

My brother got a full double hip replacement. Paid 35k in 2 different payment.
 

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Wouldnt it be crazy if people started executing corrupt CEO's daily
On the bright side, I think people might be starting to wake up to who the real enemy is -- it's not each other, it's assholes who are legal financial predators. There are lots of them, and insurance companies and banks are at the top of the list of worst offenders.
 

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Nice kill footage. Target is stalked, absorbs the first shot and staggers. Killer clears a jam (!!!!!!!) and tells a bystander to fuck off (!!!!!!) and then unloads the mag into the deceased.

All in front of street security camera.

What sort of incompetent fucker uses a piece that jams?!?!?!? 🔫
murphys law

he did not panic and fixed the problem
someone who been around firearms or cold as steel

I am surprised the media is not covering the total joy on the internet at this public justice
I suppose its still fringe at this point despite the kill lists that are now circulating
If the guy gets a jury trail he will have a decent chance of getting off.
 

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murphys law

he did not panic and fixed the problem
someone who been around firearms or cold as steel

I am surprised the media is not covering the total joy on the internet at this public justice
I suppose its still fringe at this point despite the kill lists that are now circulating
If the guy gets a jury trail he will have a decent chance of getting off.
True, there is some coverage about what's being said on social media, but not a whole lot -- to me that's almost the bigger story.

You also have to wonder if there was some type of conspiracy here. The fact the shooter was caught on video talking on a cellphone minutes before the attack is suspicious as hell. Relatively speaking, not many people are talking on cellphones at 6:30 am -- most people are either still in bed or getting ready for work. That he would be on the phone just minutes before he shoots a guy makes it seem to me that others might have been involved with the planning.
 

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True, there is some coverage about what's being said on social media, but not a whole lot -- to me that's almost the bigger story.

You also have to wonder if there was some type of conspiracy here. The fact the shooter was caught on video talking on a cellphone minutes before the attack is suspicious as hell. Relatively speaking, not many people are talking on cellphones at 6:30 am -- most people are either still in bed or getting ready for work. That he would be on the phone just minutes before he shoots a guy makes it seem to me that others might have been involved with the planning.
Yah. You're not taking calls from Aunt Elinor at 6:30 AM just as you're setting up a hit.

Unless of course, you're either totally nuts or Aunt Elinor is involved in the assassination..... But this shit is so bizarre, who knows?
 
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The obvious motive for everyone is someone who got denied of insurance or a close relative (spouse, kids) did and he blew a fuse about it.

Or it could also come from one of his colleagues who, with Brian, cooked the market and pocketed 150 millions back in February and for which they were under a SEC investigation. Perhaps Brian was about to spill the beans to authorities to protect is own ass?
 
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