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Phil C. McNasty

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Let the games begin.....LOL.
Its the 2024 version of the Running Man
 

Bucktee

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That’s because bro went and shot a health care CEO not shot up a whole fucking school filled with children. It’s like you’re so desperate to own the Libs that you completely lack any sense of critical thinking
If you think your post makes any sense, you need to seek therapy.
 

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Let's expand on your position. Your argument is that when gun violence targets a CEO instead of a gang member or other innocent people it's somehow different?
There is a huge difference between the violence of an insurance CEO, whose policy has fucked or ended the lives of hundreds of thousands, compared with daily random mass shootings.
 
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There is a huge difference between the violence of an insurance CEO, whose policy has fucked or ended the lives of hundreds of thousands, compared with daily random mass shootings.
Both involve gun violence regardless of motive and target.

You say that the CEO ended the lives of hundreds of thousands. Yet he didn't do anything illegal.

It's okay to kill insurance CEOs? Gun violence is okay in this respect?

In other words it's not a gun violence issue because you agree with the shooter?
 
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Both involve gun violence regardless of motive and target.

You say that the CEO ended the lives of hundreds of thousands. Yet he didn't do anything illegal.

It's okay to kill insurance CEOs? Gun violence is okay in this respect?

In other words it's not a gun violence issue because you agree with the shooter?
Um, so it's a false equivalence. Kids are innocent. Healthcare CEO's are not. In fact they kill more kids than any school shooter.

Don't defend them. They would watch you die too. I don't care if it's legal. So was Slavery. So were Press Gangs. So was the Inquisition.

Watching how the NY politicians are reacting, setting CEO hotlines, showing up to the extradition perp walk clearly shows it's a two tier world and you ain't in it. A CNN host upset over the fact no spontaneous memorial like John Lennon had. Seriously? NY Times deciding to stop printing his photo as he was good looking?

Wake up dude.
 

Bucktee

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Um, so it's a false equivalence. Kids are innocent. Healthcare CEO's are not. In fact they kill more kids than any school shooter.

Don't defend them. They would watch you die too. I don't care if it's legal. So was Slavery. So were Press Gangs. So was the Inquisition.
I'm not defending the CEO.
 

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Let's expand on your position. Your argument is that when gun violence targets a CEO instead of a gang member or other innocent people it's somehow different?
Yes, it is. Just like killing a dictator.


Great video of recent reaction. He is becoming John Brown.

Best line one girl says she had "tears running down her legs"......
 
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Let's expand on your position. Your argument is that when gun violence targets a CEO instead of a gang member or other innocent people it's somehow different?
Yes.
It is different.
A targeted shooting of a CEO whose business practices caused the deaths and sufferings of millions is much different than a shooting that targets a school full of children.
They are both illegal.
They are both murders.
But they are not morally equivalent.
 

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Yes, it is. Just like killing a dictator.


Great video of recent reaction. He is becoming John Brown.

Best line one girl says she had "tears running down her legs"......
You generally make sense on most issues but on this one you are so off. You're actually morally justifying taking someone's life simply because their company's business practices are, at least on the surface, questionable. We cannot take that stand or nobody will want to run a large company. Being a CEO is a very challenging position and the sacrifices one makes to do that job are tremendous. You're basically on call 24/7/365, your life is your work. It affects your personal relationships. Many are in therapy. Yet we have folks who sit around and bitch about how this CEO made $10 million last year (most of it non cash), yet nobody blinks an eye when a mediocre NBA player pulls in a similar salary or a movie actor makes $18 million for 3 months of work on the set. What kind of fucking cosmic bunny hole have we fallen into here?
 
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You generally make sense on most issues but on this one you are so off. You're actually morally justifying taking someone's life simply because their company's business practices are, at least on the surface, questionable. We cannot take that stand or nobody will want to run a large company. Being a CEO is a very challenging position and the sacrifices one makes to do that job are tremendous. You're basically on call 24/7/365, your life is your work. It affects your personal relationships. Many are in therapy. Yet we have folks who sit around and bitch about how this CEO made $10 million last year (most of it non cash), yet nobody blinks an eye when a mediocre NBA player pulls in a similar salary or a movie actor makes $18 million for 3 months of work on the set. What kind of fucking cosmic bunny hole have we fallen into here?
It's not about how much money. It's about the decisions he made to deny 32% of claims, double the national average. To illegally use an AI instead of an actual doctor that was 90% wrong to facilitate the denials.

Imagine if OHIP did that, to save money. And it was your child denied coverage for a life saving, or changing procedure.

He was the CEO and therefore signed off on every policy that harmed policy holders. I have no sympathy, anymore than a chemical product CEO who illegally dumped into a water table toxic chemicals. Or to Tobacco company CEO's. Or that family that lied to Congress about the addictiveness of Opiods.

What he did was sociopathic. Downright evil.

Run it better.

But the fact is the insurance game is a gambling operation. They bet on taking money and not having to pay out. That is thevliteral business model. So the literal business model of health insurance is not to supply coverage, but to deny it. It's a fake middleman

And no one forced him into the position. So no, I have no sympathy for him anymore than any other drifter. Just because they have the title CEO doesn't morally absolve them.
 

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It's not about how much money. It's about the decisions he made to deny 32% of claims, double the national average. To illegally use an AI instead of an actual doctor that was 90% wrong to facilitate the denials.

Imagine if OHIP did that, to save money. And it was your child denied coverage for a life saving, or changing procedure.

He was the CEO and therefore signed off on every policy that harmed policy holders. I have no sympathy, anymore than a chemical product CEO who illegally dumped into a water table toxic chemicals. Or to Tobacco company CEO's. Or that family that lied to Congress about the addictiveness of Opiods.

What he did was sociopathic. Downright evil.

Run it better.

But the fact is the insurance game is a gambling operation. They bet on taking money and not having to pay out. That is thevliteral business model. So the literal business model of health insurance is not to supply coverage, but to deny it. It's a fake middleman

And no one forced him into the position. So no, I have no sympathy for him anymore than any other drifter. Just because they have the title CEO doesn't morally absolve them.
Hate to burst your bubble but OHIP denies coverage. Maybe not as frequently as 32% but it does. Particularly if you're over 80 years old. And as I said before you're just looking at a figure and not what drives that denial rate. You need to separate your emotions from the reality.
 
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