United Healthcare CEO shot and killed in Manhattan
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Looks like he threw away a nice inheritance
www.dailymail.co.uk
Eye-watering sum Luigi Mangione's grandmother left her family
Mary C. Mangione, a philanthropist and grandmother to alleged gunman Luigi Mangione , left behind an estate worth tens of millions of dollars when she passed in 2023.
Your description of the 'business model' is not rooted in reality. For the most part the market works. Every insurance company will look for legal ways to not pay out, its part of due diligence. So is the solution to to off every CEO of an insurance company that wronged a customer? If so we'd have no CEO's left.
You also realize that the health insurance industry in the United States is quite regulated. They just can't cut off someone's insurance or deny claims because they feel like it. There has to be a valid reason behind it. Otherwise they would be buried in legal claims against them.
Yeah.
Very valid reasons like not reporting acne.
Found suddenly when the person filed a claim for uterine cancer.
Must just be a coincidence.
Very valid legal and totally acceptable reasons such as this one below.
Insurer targeted breast cancer patients to cancel
One after another, shortly after a diagnosis of breast cancer, various women insured through WellPoint learned their health insurance had been canceled. They didn't know company software had flagged their diagnosis and targeted them for investigation.
Using AI isn't illegal. If they know that the AI isn't functioning properly or if its rigged and systematically denying claims at inordinate rates, then there is grounds for a regulatory investigation and a potential class action lawsuit against the company.
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It is if it's SUPPOSED TO BE AN ACTUAL DOCTOR. Either way the point being is IT SHOULD BE CRIMINAL. And the CEO charged with a crime. The day they said corporations are people was the day capitalism became a means to criminal activity. People making criminal decisions are shielded from consequences.
The other thing people seem to forget is United isn't the only healthcare insurance provider out there. If you don't like the way they operate find another insurer. Utilize other means such as health savings accounts or health reimbursement arrangements. When my company employed Americans we negotiated paying them additional $ and they used that to find their own preferred insurance providers.
There was a class action filled in 2023 which found the proof of the use of AI. Not sure if it settled as of now and if yhey paid damages.
The thing is let’s say you pay 1800$ per month for your family. You get refuse treatment. You ask for review of the decision. Would you be happy to receive a second denial written by AI? Without knowing that it was written by AI?
Me? I would want to shoot someone.
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They are buried in claims. And you just admitted they are in the business of NOT PAYING CLAIMS. And that it is good for business and how they make a profit. Way to go. Now the next step is to realize they pay politicians to make make as many legal loopholes as possible, and you are getting enlightened. Quite simply considering the mass, bipartisan reaction to this, support for the killer, I'd say it's proof the "market(stock)" are the only ones benefiting. And the providers, pharmaceutical companies that over charge. Did you ever consider that somewhere along the way the PATIENTS should benefit as well? Clearly they aren't.
32% claim denial, when other companies are sitting at 7% and it's twice the industry average. And a second opinion AI with a 90% failure rate designed by the company. They did indeed feel like denying legit claims. And did it.
The solution is Medicare for all. But when both parties are paid to not let it pass, despite polling showing the majority want it, and the MSM, also paid via advertising dollars, become propaganda tools for the industry, then guess what?
Madame la Guillotine awaits.
After the assassination the CEO of Blue Cross canceled plans for a policy to stop Anesthesia coverage DURING A SURGERY. So yes it worked. A few more and maybe they will get it.
Except employer paid for most is the only option. Right? Add in deductibles, co pays and they really do nothing. And think about what you just said, it cost businesses more too. For what? An extra layer of bureaucracy? Paying a middleman? Paying inflated costs? Paying shareholders?
Cripes you keep on proving my point. Universal healthcare is cheaper, costs businesses less, and even allows(like mine) to ADD coverage like dental, eyeglass, physio and more. Meanwhile in the USA, only Platinum payers gain decent coverage. The rest have to get approvals, waiting months sometimes, fighting many times for it.
Sounds like "death panels" to me!
It's interesting that this issue seems to be uniting a lot of left-wingers and right-wingers
I think the usual 4% sociopathic rate for CEO's(general population is 1%) is low for this field.
And Right Wingers tend to have more guns! MAHA is a thing now. When you lose the grassroots of both parties it's may just be a matter of time now.
I have repeatedly said over the last 10 years reckoning are coming. That things will have to get worse before they get better. That it's a class war, not a political one. And been called an accelerationist for it.
A stock crash, real estate crash, and bailout, and Occupy Wallstreet will not be so peaceful this time.
If you are not a sociopath I dont think you can work in either pharmaceutical or health insurance.
I have consulted a lot with pharmaceuticals. This example is from 15 years ago. I was shocked.
On one such project with Eli Lilly their marketing team conducts a lot of focus groups with patients taking their drugs.
The patients express side effects - diarrhea, headache etc
You know what the pharma guys do with that info?
You'd think they'd fix those issues so the drugs dont result in such side effects.
They instead change their marketing material, so customers feel better about taking their drugs.
This is coming straight from their consumer insights team by the way. Am not making it up.
They dont even consider patients as their customers.
They consider doctors as their customers and provide them a kickback.
When meeting with their product managers and marketers, they told me that there are drugs they have research on which could cure ailments like breast cancer at much cheaper rates to consumers.
But they dont bring it to market because they cannot compete with another pharma who currently has a patent.
So they shelve it.
No mention of somehow cutting a deal with the other company to share profits in the interests of the consumer.
God knows how much research they are hiding for ailments with currently no viable cure.
The entire thing is fucked up.
I saw a report of a speech given a few years ago by former Governor of the Bank of Canada Mark Carney where he said pretty much the same thing. The audience consisted of the rich and powerful. I don't know if they took him seriously or not.
Deny of care. Appeal refusal generated by AI. All this as no side. They do not ask for who you vote. They fuck both sides
