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JohnLarue

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Trump's only criteria to qualify for these posts is that the people he appoints to these posts are loyal to him.
Therefore you will see that anyone he appoints to these posts will generally either be dumb or cruel.
It is those kind of people that will ally themselves with someone like Trump.

he will demand and expect loyalty , hardly a unique criteria for any leader

your statement that anyone he appoints to these posts will generally either be dumb or cruel is disingenuous, foolish and reeks of sour grapes

especially considering the blithering fool the democrats had as their candidate
As mentioned before US politicians trade campaign denotations and favors like baseball cards
inherently this system leads to questionable appointments independent of repub / democrat

he will owe favors, although he will view these as rewards
likely there are people who helped him carry what were suppose to be battle ground states who will be looking for an appointment


a rough around the edges , no-nonsense department head might not be a lot of fun to work for but will deliver on his / her assigned objectives vs a bumbling fool activist who puts his personal agenda ahead of the electorates interest - Steven Guilbeault

do you not recall Justin choosing his cabinet using boy / girl/ boy / girl/ boy / girl.........
the results speak for themselves

decisive / firm / competent (what you described as cruel) likely will better than appointments based on silly assed woke / quota based appointments

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Frankfooter

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As soon as I hear “Sky Daddy” I expect it, that’s all. Plus I think it’s prob common in this particular demographic of men on this forum, age wise and interest wise. And it’s not exactly Christian Mingle LMAO

sorry 4 assuming

(was reasonable to tho)
There are a lot of preconceptions on this board, true. Everyone has them, its hard to function without them.
 

Frankfooter

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Whether you are right wing or left wing, this is very true.
It is extremely entertaining!
It will be even more so when the media goes nuts after Trump takes office. lol.
I think team MAGA is excited for revenge but has conveniently forgotten the daily scandals in incompetence.
Somehow they think the second time the orange guy makes america great again it will really take.

How perfect that the adjudicated rapist and convicted felon appointed a sex offender as AG.


 

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didn’t seem personal to me, just seemed like you were providing a bit of a paradigm reframing, but ya, those never feel welcome lmao.

also reminds me of some stuff I read about geopolitical multipolarity (not so mainstream either, it was some stuff from Dugin’s tg channel lol)
There might be something there, but it was kind of a jingoistic tale of China rising again and vanquishing Western domination. I no doubt that China is a great economic power and will continue to be. The whole Fed interest rate's policy forcing Chinese businesses to sell cheap to Wall Street is pure and somewhat scary fiction.

The Chinese economy is hitting its first major bump in the road since it began liberalizing business activity. If you cite on social media the predictable economic patterns that all economies go through on social media, you will be meet a chorus of "China has a different economic model that does not follow Western economic theory". The funny thing is its just economic theory. There's no such thing as Western economy theory. Certain things happen when you overinvest into the productive side of your economy and then continue to lean on it as the growth model longer after the investment has reached diminished returns. The Soviets ran into it. Brazil ran into it. Japan ran into it. It's always going to be different this time.
 
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Trump's only criteria to qualify for these posts is that the people he appoints to these posts are loyal to him.
Therefore you will see that anyone he appoints to these posts will generally either be dumb or cruel.
It is those kind of people that will ally themselves with someone like Trump.
I don’t think it’s good reasoning to say “loyal to Trump, therefore must be dumb or cruel”

You’re basically saying,

One’s loyalties entails a transference of traits to oneself from the person receiving loyalty. E.g. A is loyal B, B is dumb, so by extension A is dumb too.

Appointments to government should not be chosen by considering loyalties


Why would either of those two statements be true or obvious? They’re super contentious. Maybe you can shore them up more.

I can see reasons why he chose these people tbh, it’s not hard to fathom

…but ya they are definitely provocative choices lmao, that’s what is just hilarious
 

Frankfooter

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I don’t think it’s good reasoning to say “loyal to Trump, therefore must be dumb or cruel”

You’re basically saying,

One’s loyalties entails a transference of traits to oneself from the person receiving loyalty. E.g. A is loyal B, B is dumb, so by extension A is dumb too.

Appointments to government should not be chosen by considering loyalties


Why would either of those two statements be true or obvious? They’re super contentious. Maybe you can shore them up more.

I can see reasons why he chose these people tbh, it’s not hard to fathom

…but ya they are definitely provocative choices lmao, that’s what is just hilarious
So why would someone declare loyalty to a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist?
Other than being a member of the leopard eating faces party, of course.

You aren't excited about reparations, are you?

 
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“So why would someone declare loyalty to a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist?”

That’s like asking me why I still think Plato is a good philosopher even though he fucked little boys in the ass.

And then accusing me of being okay with little boys being fucked in the ass.
 

Frankfooter

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“So why would someone declare loyalty to a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist?”

That’s like asking me why I still think Plato is a good philosopher even though he fucked little boys in the ass.
You mean you think that the rules (not laws) say its just as ok to put convicts and sex offenders in charge as it was for ancient Greeks to be gay or pedophiles?
Or do you mean that just because someone is a rapist and fraud artist doesn't mean that he also can't be as smart as he declares he is?

Or perhaps you'd like to clarify instead of me guessing.

 

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didn’t seem personal to me, just seemed like you were providing a bit of a paradigm reframing, but ya, those never feel welcome lmao.

also reminds me of some stuff I read about geopolitical multipolarity (not so mainstream either, it was some stuff from Dugin’s tg channel lol)
Its seen as a conspiracy theory to those unwilling to see alternative POV.

I was told the same thing when I said Covid was a $camdemic.

Most Asians who grow up here while still being able to speak their mother tongue hold a unique perspective where we see the good and bad for both western and Asian culture. Obviously it will be dismissed because of the relentless western-centric POV.

When people make fun of Elon it amuses me considering how it would be impossible for a person of low IQ to get to where he is today.

As they say, easier to fool someone than convince them theyve been fooled. Also, never underestimate stupidity in numbers.
 
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Leimonis

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“So why would someone declare loyalty to a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist?”

That’s like asking me why I still think Plato is a good philosopher even though he fucked little boys in the ass.

And then accusing me of being okay with little boys being fucked in the ass.
Would you be okay with Plato becoming a philosophy professor in your local high school?
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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I don’t think it’s good reasoning to say “loyal to Trump, therefore must be dumb or cruel”

You’re basically saying,

One’s loyalties entails a transference of traits to oneself from the person receiving loyalty. E.g. A is loyal B, B is dumb, so by extension A is dumb too.

Appointments to government should not be chosen by considering loyalties


Why would either of those two statements be true or obvious? They’re super contentious. Maybe you can shore them up more.

I can see reasons why he chose these people tbh, it’s not hard to fathom

…but ya they are definitely provocative choices lmao, that’s what is just hilarious
Dumb or cruel. Or perhaps both. Maybe even smart and cruel lol.
He picked them so he does not have to face the issues he did in his first term.
He wants loyalists everywhere that will do his bidding, be yes men so he can behave like a dictator.
Essentially he wants to undermine the checks and balances that exist and greatly increase the powers of the office of the presidency.
This is a dangerous slippery slope.
Fascism is a process. This is how it starts.
So what would be the character of the person who is willing to be loyal to Trump and his policies (many of which I consider to be cruel and/or dumb)?
Dumb or cruel.
But having said that, whether or not these picks will actually be effective in executing their nefarious agenda is TBC.
 
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Frankfooter

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Dumb or cruel. One of the two.
He picked them so he does not face the issues he did in his first term.
He wants loyalists everywhere that will do his bidding so he can behave like a dictator.
Essentially he wants to undermine the checks and balances that exist and greatly increase the powers of the office of the presidency.
This is a dangerous slippery slope.
Fascism is a process. This is how it starts.
There is the possibility that trump actually thinks RFK jr and his brain worm's theory that diseases aren't caused by germs is actually brilliant and he thinks it will fix the US health care system. That's more likely than the self declared germaphobe just wants all americans to get sick.

Lets see if RFK jr can make america's health care system great again, again.

 

JohnLarue

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“So why would someone declare loyalty to a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist?”

That’s like asking me why I still think Plato is a good philosopher even though he fucked little boys in the ass.

And then accusing me of being okay with little boys being fucked in the ass.
that's one type of rebuttal with unpleasant imaging

this straightforward
“So why would someone declare loyalty to a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist?”

rebuttal:
because the majority of the electorate did not buy into the ''convicted felon and adjudicated rapist'' view and voted for him

dead simple for someone to declare loyalty when they have the electorate with the same view

future events may make the electorate re-evaluate / change their loyalty just as an appointee may decide his / her loyalty was misplaced

I am pretty sure JWR, & Bill Morneau are kicking themselves for their initial loyalty to Justin Trudeau as are 20 odd liberal MPs who are concerned they will have a forced career change
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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There is the possibility that trump actually thinks RFK jr and his brain worm's theory that diseases aren't caused by germs is actually brilliant and he thinks it will fix the US health care system. That's more likely than the self declared germaphobe just wants all americans to get sick.

Lets see if RFK jr can make america's health care system great again, again.

That is why am saying that they either have to be dumb - like Betsy Devos if you remember lol. Or Matt Gaetz lol.
Or cruel - like Stephen Miller, Thomas Homan etc.,
Or smart and cruel - like Elon Musk.
 
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