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Trump administration accidentally texts reporter war plans

LickingG2

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You are right. They didn't. Of course Waltz is an idiot. And should have been canned. I've said that repeatedly. When have I denied that?
There is lot more than one highly visible idiot in this administration. without even thinkin too hard there is at least 5 senior officials that are absolute idiots. That's what happens when the main (perhaps only) qualification is to suck up to Trump.
 
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Butler1000

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There is lot more than one highly visible idiot in this administration. without even thinkin too hard there is at least 5 senior officials that are absolute idiots. That's what happens when the main (perhaps only) qualification is to suck up to Trump.
In this case it comes down to the one guy who did the invite. But add Hegseth on for adding the classified information. The rest in this matter didn't do anything wrong.
 

benstt

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In this case it comes down to the one guy who did the invite. But add Hegseth on for adding the classified information. The rest in this matter didn't do anything wrong.
Are you kidding? They should not be using an external messenger app for discussing any government business amongst themselves. It fails the record retention requirements. They have secure, logged communications for that.
 

Butler1000

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Are you kidding? They should not be using an external messenger app for discussing any government business amongst themselves. It fails the record retention requirements. They have secure, logged communications for that.
I agree. And yet it was installed as part of the transition because the previous administration approved it. And the reason for that is ALL ADMINS do this to bypass accountability.

It's just they were were too stupid and got caught.
 

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You are right. They didn't. Of course Waltz is an idiot. And should have been canned. I've said that repeatedly. When have I denied that?
I never said you have condoned the idiot's actions and you do not seem to be a real MAGA supporter but if you were in the US and were able to vote, you would have chosen Trump over Harris. You want to always attack the DEMS at every chance even though they are not in power and have no control of anything at the moment. Yet, instead of just attacking the conman, you always roll on back to Biden, Harris and the Democratic party.
 
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I never said you have condoned the idiot's actions and you do not seem to be a real MAGA supporter but if you were in the US and were able to vote, you would have chosen Trump over Harris. You want to always attack the DEMS at every chance even though they are not in power and have no control of anything at the moment. Yet, instead of just attacking the conman, you always roll on back to Biden, Harris and the Democratic party.
Waltz was a mistake because Biden did not drop out soon enough for a convention where someone else would have been nominated
but he was a good president
 

benstt

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I agree. And yet it was installed as part of the transition because the previous administration approved it. And the reason for that is ALL ADMINS do this to bypass accountability.

It's just they were were too stupid and got caught.
One more time... installing an external messenger app does not mean it is condoned for official business. It's a simple concept. Stop trying to draw the previous administration into this absolutely colossal fuckup by these morons without evidence that they approved it for use in situations like this.

Here's a June 2021 DoD investigation into a guy who among other things, was encouraging people to inappropriately use Signal instead of the secure systems they had.


Appendix C refers to some of the DoD standards, including this summary about approved usage.

One of the don’ts listed under the cybersecurity guidance on defending the DoD information network was “[Do Not] use any non-DoD
instant messaging applications to share DoD information.”



DoDI 8170.01, “Online Information Management and Electronic Messaging,” January 2,
2019, states, “DoD personnel must not use personal e-mail or other nonofficial accounts to
exchange official information and must not auto-forward official messages to nonofficial accounts
or corporate accounts.” The Instruction also states, “Personal, nonofficial accounts may not be used
to conduct official DoD communications for personal convenience or preferences.” Specifically, the
Instruction states: “DoD personnel may not use personal, nonofficial accounts, to conduct official
DoD communications … .

Exceptions must meet the combined three conditions:
(1) Emergencies and other critical mission needs.
(2) When official communication capabilities are unavailable, impractical, or unreliable.
(3) It is in the interests of DoD or other USG missions.”

On March 18, 2020, the DoD CIO’s Chief of Staff distributed refresher guidance on defending
the DoD information network with “do’s” and “don’ts” to DoD senior officials, including
Mr. Goldstein, for dissemination to their components.

One of the don’ts listed under the cybersecurity guidance on defending the DoD information network was “[Do Not] use any non-DoD
instant messaging applications to share DoD information.”
 

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Another huge issue is they used Signal to avoid the government records act, which appears to be illegal. Project 2025 actually said to do that, according to sources as I have not read it with my own eyes, that the new administration should use these unauthorized communication means so as to avoid any scrutiny by the law or the public and the US Freedom of Information Act. Again, in violation of the law. Remember, they are to serve the public not rule the public.

Again, it's part of how to run a government outside the control of any laws, and to escape the scrutiny of the law.
 
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Butler1000

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One more time... installing an external messenger app does not mean it is condoned for official business. It's a simple concept. Stop trying to draw the previous administration into this absolutely colossal fuckup by these morons without evidence that they approved it for use in situations like this.

Here's a June 2021 DoD investigation into a guy who among other things, was encouraging people to inappropriately use Signal instead of the secure systems they had.


Appendix C refers to some of the DoD standards, including this summary about approved usage.

One of the don’ts listed under the cybersecurity guidance on defending the DoD information network was “[Do Not] use any non-DoD
instant messaging applications to share DoD information.”
You are proving my point. They put out guidelines, and they were ignored. They put out reminders multiple times and they were ignored. Organizations don't put out guidelines with numerous reminders unless shit is being done wrong.

The govt officials, bureaucrats, who in many cases are hired and carry over appointments used inappropriate apps. And despite warnings continue to do so. Its systemic. It's not a partisan thing. It's human laziness coupled with a desire by govt employees NOT TO HAVE THEIR COMMUNICATION ARCHIVED.

If it's not condoned then WHY INSTALL THE APPS?
 

Butler1000

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I never said you have condoned the idiot's actions and you do not seem to be a real MAGA supporter but if you were in the US and were able to vote, you would have chosen Trump over Harris. You want to always attack the DEMS at every chance even though they are not in power and have no control of anything at the moment. Yet, instead of just attacking the conman, you always roll on back to Biden, Harris and the Democratic party.
Would have written in a protest vote. And voted down ballot, who would have depended on the candidate. Remember it's not like here. You vote for a hundred fed, state and local positions.

I attack the Dems because they claim a moral high ground and are in reality controlled opposition.
 

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You are proving my point. They put out guidelines, and they were ignored. They put out reminders multiple times and they were ignored. Organizations don't put out guidelines with numerous reminders unless shit is being done wrong.
Not ignored, subject to numerous complaints from people who know better and an investigation.
 
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Butler1000

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Not ignored, subject to numerous complaints from people who know better and an investigation.
Ignored. Subject to numerous complaints ABOUT PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T KNOW BETTER. Or why did the warnings continue to be issued up to 2024?

Why do you assume all Democrats are nice, and smart and don't do bad and stupid things?
 
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