But will you pay more taxes for less transit delivery?
Ford's subway will cost more and service less, and put the city on the bill to foot more of the expenses.
You'll pay for Scarborough but lose North York.
Toronto council votes in favour of Scarborough subway in major victory for Rob Ford
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Ford's subway will cost more and service less, and put the city on the bill to foot more of the expenses.
You'll pay for Scarborough but lose North York.
And I'm in Etobicke south! Wow so that's means that I'm thinking of the city as a whole. Try it. Its progressive thinking. As long as the money continues to be used for good transit and not half assed solutions I'm all for it. So are my neighbours too.
Uh oh....the suburbs are sticking together to push a real long term stragedy through....what will those pesky downtown ward reps do when democracy bites them on the ass.
Yes I agree, no spending should be allowed without some oversight. This money is needed for things like transit
We seem to love building subways to nowhere in this town: Sheppard, Yonge extension to Vaughan and now Scarborough. You could also argue that the University line north of St. George is also a subway to nowhere since it is somewhat underused. Bloor-Yonge station and St. George are bursting at the seems and a downtown relief line will never happen.
so we have a small subway ext instead of an small LRT ext for almost another billion?
WTF??? LRT has more stops, a better view and how much time does a subway save in such a short distance ?
so for a billion u transfer at Scarboro town center (their big mall) instead of at eglinton to the future sheppard LRT
WTF??? LRT has more stops, a better view and how much time does a subway save in such a short distance ?
so for a billion u transfer at Scarboro town center (their big mall) instead of at eglinton to the future sheppard LRT
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The Ford subway may be dead in the water already.
Wynn's government says that only $1.1 billion is available to move, not $1.4 billion.
And we're still waiting for a reasonable estimate of what the real costs are.
Its probably about as realistic as Ford's ferris wheel, and probably as practical.
As predicted.
Wynn's government says that only $1.1 billion is available to move, not $1.4 billion.
And we're still waiting for a reasonable estimate of what the real costs are.
Its probably about as realistic as Ford's ferris wheel, and probably as practical.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2013/07/18/toronto-subway-murray-scarborough.html
As predicted.
Not really. regardless of where the development occurs, you need a way to get there and a host of other infrastructure that will serve it.
It's a victory only if transit (subway, LRT, horse drawn carriage, etc.) actually gets built and results in better service on the whole system. It's a small (yet hugely expensive) victory for the small number of people that will actually use that part of the line. The rest of us will have to contend with more congestion on the existing system that is already strained to the limit, having to contend with smelly, dirty stations and vehicles, line up every month for passes, contend with pain in the ass drivers, etc. etc.
The only thing these subway expansions will accomplish is to spread the shitty system further out making it even more shitty.
If Ford really wants to help transit, he might want to start by selling his Cadillac and take the bus and subway down to city hall. See if he likes riding in the sardine can (smells like one too) transit system the rest of us have to put up with.
Except the money is sitting there. And the councillors try to slip their little community projects into the regular budget. When was the last time Vaughn used the money in his ward to really improve something. Still sitting on over 50 million. Should one politician have access to that much money with no reall oversite and no mandate or policies to really govern where it goes?
Put it into the gerneral coffers. Try thinking of the city as a whole. And not 43 little fiefs to be protected by their little lords and ladies.
You also need to upgrade parks, schools, and other amenities in the area where the development is occurring. You know, the area where the people are actually going to be.
The downtown wards have a lot of development fund because of massive residential building. The people moving to these fifty thousand new homes don't need to get here. They already live here.
The voters in his ward can put in someone else if they don't like his management.
Plainly the burbs are simply jealous and want to grab cash for themselves. Certainly you are not proposing to spend the money in the ward it belongs to!
Except its a nice little circle isn't it. The developers go where transit exists. So the downtown wards get the money. Hey I'm all for using some money in the ward. But they aren't using it. They are sitting on it.
Again. Why is it the fiscal consevative suburbs are wanting to expand infrastructure, and the "progressive" downtown wards are against it.
But its ok. They don't have the votes on this one. And probably the next onen and the one after that. We can work around their obstructionism to start turning things around.
Again, if the voters in his ward don't feel he is managing things properly they can vote him out. You on the other hand just want to grab other people's money. Maybe you can run against him and make this your issue!
And yeah the developers build downtown because that is indeed where people want to live.
Over time subways will still be the best decision.
Yes, they cost more. Increase municipal taxes by $500 - $1,000 bucks a household - That should be no problem, after all, according to most folks on TERB the citizens want to pay double the land transfer fee and want to have the car registration fee brought back.
Yes, they cost more. Increase municipal taxes by $500 - $1,000 bucks a household - That should be no problem, after all, according to most folks on TERB the citizens want to pay double the land transfer fee and want to have the car registration fee brought back.
