Titanic Submersible

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James Cameron mentioned this is the first ever fatality for this kind of deep dive sub. In over sixty years. The one he designed and had built went to the bottom of the Mariana trench 36000 feet in depth.
 
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At that depth, the pressure I heard from an expert was the equivalent of a 111 story building made of lead.
The pressure down there is roughly 5,500PSI. That means that the water column directly above an individual say about 1 foot wide (torso front to back) by 2 feet wide (shoulder to shoulder) weighs about 1,584,000 lbs.....just waiting to drop on somebody. And that's just a birds-eye view of an individual; now multiply that by the total relevant exposure area of the sub.

When the ARA San Juan imploded a few years ago, the water entered the pressure hull at 1,800mph when it was a depth of 1,275 feet. When the USS Thresher imploded back 60 years ago, the water entered the pressure hull at 2,000mph when it was a depth of 2,400 feet.

This Titan submersible was at 10,000 feet (4 times deeper than the Thresher) when it imploded....the entry speed of the water going into it was probably north of 3,000mph (maybe up 5,000mph?). It happens so fast, that the human brain doesn't have the ability to recognize what is happening since the signals to the brain are slower than the collapse. This sub was imploded at supersonic if not hypersonic speeds. How fast is 3,000mph? Imaging traveling from the Financial District to Yorkville in 2 seconds.

My math is likely off here and there, but physics behind all of this is staggering. They never stood a chance.
 

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No, not money or brains. It is EGO
It is a competition between the egotistical billionaires.
Next we will be reading and discussing a disaster related to the space program.
Like the EGO of guys writing essays about their so-called great or bad time they had with SPs. Or getting into water cooler debates over mostly the same topics over and over again with strangers online.
 

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The pressure down there is roughly 5,500PSI. That means that the water column directly above an individual say about 1 foot wide (torso front to back) by 2 feet wide (shoulder to shoulder) weighs about 1,584,000 lbs.....just waiting to drop on somebody. And that's just a birds-eye view of an individual; now multiply that by the total relevant exposure area of the sub.

When the ARA San Juan imploded a few years ago, the water entered the pressure hull at 1,800mph when it was a depth of 1,275 feet. When the USS Thresher imploded back 60 years ago, the water entered the pressure hull at 2,000mph when it was a depth of 2,400 feet.

This Titan submersible was at 10,000 feet (4 times deeper than the Thresher) when it imploded....the entry speed of the water going into it was probably north of 3,000mph (maybe up 5,000mph?). It happens so fast, that the human brain doesn't have the ability to recognize what is happening since the signals to the brain are slower than the collapse. This sub was imploded at supersonic if not hypersonic speeds. How fast is 3,000mph? Imaging traveling from the Financial District to Yorkville in 2 seconds.

My math is likely off here and there, but physics behind all of this is staggering. They never stood a chance.
Exactly. Their bodies were instantaneously turned into hamburger meat and the slurry messes were then injected out into the ocean at a speed of Mach 4. Absolutely nothing left to find by anyone.
 

John Wick

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James Cameron mentioned this is the first ever fatality for this kind of deep dive sub. In over sixty years. The one he designed and had built went to the bottom of the Mariana trench 36000 feet in depth.
I understood Cameron was the submersible pilot, and took part in testing of the craft, but pretty sure he wasn't the brainchild behind the actual design, engineering and build of the craft. Very few people exist on the planet with those type of credentials.
 
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Like the EGO of guys writing essays about their so-called great or bad time they had with SPs. Or getting into water cooler debates over mostly the same topics over and over again with strangers online.
You are rambling about SPs. How many millionaires or billionaires are on TERB ? Any idea ?
 

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I understood Cameron was the submersible pilot, and took part in testing of the craft, but pretty sure he wasn't the brainchild behind the actual design, engineering and build of the craft. Very few people exist on the planet with those type of credentials.
The stresses and strengths of materials are well understood and routine engineering.
 

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When was the last time you looked at the tax tables ???
When was the last time you read the tax code ???

My thoughts are why raise taxes on rich when they hire tax lawyers
smarter than the tax lawyers that write the tax code so they can avoid taxes?
Find some way to stop tax avoidence

Another thought is you can only make the rich pay taxes to the point they
will take money offshore and to stop that seems impossible as you cannot
tell other counties what to do so you are forced to keep taxes low

Another thought is that it is not at all relevent the percentage of tax you pay
so the rich should stop whinning they pay to much. The only thing that matters
is what you got left


If you made the money by producing stuff and making society richer then you
deserve your wealth, it was your incentive to make society richer, that is human nature
When one gets richer simply because they got wealth and contribute nothing to socity that is wrong
 
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You are rambling about SPs. How many millionaires or billionaires are on TERB ? Any idea ?
Thanks for confirming my point. The ego these rich people have is the same as the ego on display on this board.

If there are are guys here that are supposedly spending thousands a month on escorts, that would put them in the millionaire camp IMO. Maybe they're not making millions in income, but have enough assets and no debts that they can spend lavishly on SPs and brag about it.
 
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The pressure down there is roughly 5,500PSI. That means that the water column directly above an individual say about 1 foot wide (torso front to back) by 2 feet wide (shoulder to shoulder) weighs about 1,584,000 lbs.....just waiting to drop on somebody. And that's just a birds-eye view of an individual; now multiply that by the total relevant exposure area of the sub.

When the ARA San Juan imploded a few years ago, the water entered the pressure hull at 1,800mph when it was a depth of 1,275 feet. When the USS Thresher imploded back 60 years ago, the water entered the pressure hull at 2,000mph when it was a depth of 2,400 feet.

This Titan submersible was at 10,000 feet (4 times deeper than the Thresher) when it imploded....the entry speed of the water going into it was probably north of 3,000mph (maybe up 5,000mph?). It happens so fast, that the human brain doesn't have the ability to recognize what is happening since the signals to the brain are slower than the collapse. This sub was imploded at supersonic if not hypersonic speeds. How fast is 3,000mph? Imaging traveling from the Financial District to Yorkville in 2 seconds.

My math is likely off here and there, but physics behind all of this is staggering. They never stood a chance.
Interesting, Thanks
 
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Thanks for confirming my point. The ego these rich people have is the same as the ego on display on this board.

If there are are guys here that are supposedly spending thousands a month on escorts, that would put them in the millionaire camp IMO. Maybe they're not making millions in income, but have enough assets and no debts that they can spend lavishly on SPs and brag about it.
The guys here are the "wanna be" rich guys.
I see the same guys posting reviews every other day.
I am happy for the wealthy guys who have assets and no debts in Toronto, which I seriously doubt.
The super rich invest money to make money, not spend it on MP, SC or escorts.
That is a wonderful happy ending. Maybe ??
 

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Exactly. Their bodies were instantaneously turned into hamburger meat and the slurry messes were then injected out into the ocean at a speed of Mach 4. Absolutely nothing left to find by anyone.
Few seconds before implosions the pression made their eardrums explode to the point of instant complete loss of consciousness. So when their bodies were smashed they were already dead.

What a complete waste of life and money. All while a boat filled with 600 migrants was left to themselves on the coast of Greece... No one to help those poor people.
 
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Few seconds before implosions the pression made their eardrums explode to the point of instant complete loss of consciousness. So when their bodies were smashed they were already dead.

What a complete waste of life and money. All while a boat filled with 600 migrants was left to themselves on the coast of Greece... No one to help those poor people.
An implosion moves at milliseconds. The human senses do not register anything at that speed. That's why I said that they had an easy death. One moment you're here and, not even in a blink, you're gone.
 
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An implosion moves at milliseconds. The human senses do not register anything at that speed. That's why I said that they had an easy death. One moment you're here and, not even in a blink, you're gone.
I saw a coverage from a medical expert who did confirm, with a computer model, that they were gone in a millisecond indeed. Yet he explain how they actually died a few second before the implosion as a human body cannot survive the pressure that eventually (few seconds) lead to implosion.
 
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My thoughts are why raise taxes on rich when they hire tax lawyers
smarter than the tax lawyers that write the tax code so they can avoid taxes?
Find some way to stop tax avoidence

Another thought is you can only make the rich pay taxes to the point they
will take money offshore and to stop that seems impossible as you cannot
tell other counties what to do so you are forced to keep taxes low

Another thought is that it is not at all relevent the percentage of tax you pay
so the rich should stop whinning they pay to much. The only thing that matters
is what you got left


If you made the money by producing stuff and making society richer then you
deserve your wealth, it was your incentive to make society richer, that is human nature
When one gets richer simply because they got wealth and contribute nothing to socity that is wrong
Excellent summary of your thoughts.
Do you have any suggestions to reform the tax code ?
Maybe the middle class should get squeezed more for taxes to supplement the tax cheats and the government.
 

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The guys here are the "wanna be" rich guys.
I see the same guys posting reviews every other day.
I am happy for the wealthy guys who have assets and no debts in Toronto, which I seriously doubt.
The super rich invest money to make money, not spend it on MP, SC or escorts.
That is a wonderful happy ending. Maybe ??
My point went completely over your head.
 
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