Titanic Submersible

[Not getting younger]

What do you say about obesity and smoking|?

No idea why you’re asking. You’ve accused others of not reading what you have said, taking the time to understand. Now you’re asking me what about “smoking”, “obesity”,……Driving on the 401 too?

Maybe I’m not mentioning stuff like that, because it doesn’t quite fall into “Don’t on Lake Simcoe ice, it’s unsafe”?

https://www.durhamregion.com/news/c...cle_be0b373d-3e65-5743-885f-59f6995cefae.html

Anglers rescued from Lake Simcoe ice floe ordered to pay $200 each

The Township of Oro-Medonte will require the 26 fishermen who became stranded on an ice floe on Lake Simcoe earlier this month to pay back some of the costs for the rescue.

www.thestar.com

The dynamics with respect to Municipalities recovering cost and sending a message are very different than the govt of Canada doing the same when needing to rescue us[.

Their tax revenue and budgets are tiny…relatively speaking. Yet every year, people that don’t live in those municipalities ( you know pay land taxes)…require police, fire, EMS, etc etc.

What you think the taxes you pay to CRA fund the municipality budget? Please don’t tell me that….There are also Hefty bills for those that drive onto the ice, whose vehicles go through, and then have to be retrieved at a later date. ..
So the difference is, what you haven’t taken the time to realize, nor read what I’ve said ( I’ve specifically mentioned tourist/tourism) is that for the things you are listing. Yes, your taxes “help”…the type of things I’m listing and referring to, are incidents when “tourist” are rescued…Do you understand now? But could include those that live there ( pay land taxes) depending on the specifics. Aka what activity, what warnings were issued.

kind of like those on the bottom of the ocean.

 

[stinkynuts]

James Cameron blasts Oceangate foe being irresponsible

 

[johnd5050]

They pay ENORMOUS amounts of tax.

When was the last time you looked at the tax tables ???
When was the last time you read the tax code ???

 

[bazokajoe]

What is your point? What is the point I am making, have you read what I wrote? Some people have in mind what they want to say, and barely glance at what they are actually responding to.

FOCUS!

What I am saying is that taxes, government spending - we pay, and some of us pay more than we use, others don't. But if you want to go the route of tallying up for every person what they spend and what they get back - that's not government, that's a store.

I ( I despair that I need to spell it out for you) , am saying that - let me use your example - yes, we MUST pay for handicapped children etc, and we also must provide health care for smokers, and children of addicts, BUT WE ALSO must provide emergency services to motorcyclists that are 17 times more likely than car occupants to get injured etc.

But we ALSO must provide services to extremely expensive activites like skydiving etc.

Once you start picking and choosing which activities you rescue, you are handing ENORMOUS power to government to control our lives.

Please, I beg you , wait 10 minutes, re-read what I wrote a few times, before you respond.

You are clueless, you really are.

 

[Greytop19]

I just hope that they didn’t feel any pain and death was instantaneous. More money than brains I guess.

No, not money or brains. It is EGO
It is a competition between the egotistical billionaires.
Next we will be reading and discussing a disaster related to the space program.

 

[Greytop19]

I just hope that they didn’t feel any pain and death was instantaneous. More money than brains I guess.

At that depth there is no pain and it is burial at sea. End of chapter.

 

[Zoot Allures]

James Cameron blasts Oceangate foe being irresponsible

Very interesting esp his last comment

''Now there is one wreck lying beside another wreck for the same damn reason''

IE bad engineering of hull which they should of been aware if they had done
proper studies. Titanic sank because the iceberg ripped through the hull because
the steel weakens when cold. The sub sank because the hull is a composite which weakens over use.

My thoughts are he is speculating on the hull's composite design as it could have been the window that cracked but that would still be bad engineering.

I also suspect it was management that ultimately failed as some scientists were aware of possible failure, as he was, but failure of management to have a policy that such critiques were recieved is the same reason both shuttles exploded as some engineers where very suspicious of the problems that brought both shuttles down but had no access to management

 

[Robert Mugabe]

James Cameron mentioned this is the first ever fatality for this kind of deep dive sub. In over sixty years. The one he designed and had built went to the bottom of the Mariana trench 36000 feet in depth.

 

[Cattlesnake]

At that depth, the pressure I heard from an expert was the equivalent of a 111 story building made of lead.

The pressure down there is roughly 5,500PSI. That means that the water column directly above an individual say about 1 foot wide (torso front to back) by 2 feet wide (shoulder to shoulder) weighs about 1,584,000 lbs.....just waiting to drop on somebody. And that's just a birds-eye view of an individual; now multiply that by the total relevant exposure area of the sub.

When the ARA San Juan imploded a few years ago, the water entered the pressure hull at 1,800mph when it was a depth of 1,275 feet. When the USS Thresher imploded back 60 years ago, the water entered the pressure hull at 2,000mph when it was a depth of 2,400 feet.

This Titan submersible was at 10,000 feet (4 times deeper than the Thresher) when it imploded....the entry speed of the water going into it was probably north of 3,000mph (maybe up 5,000mph?). It happens so fast, that the human brain doesn't have the ability to recognize what is happening since the signals to the brain are slower than the collapse. This sub was imploded at supersonic if not hypersonic speeds. How fast is 3,000mph? Imaging traveling from the Financial District to Yorkville in 2 seconds.

My math is likely off here and there, but physics behind all of this is staggering. They never stood a chance.

 

[explorerzip]

I also find it comical how there's a side conversation about taxes now? The wonderful sea-creature known as Terb.

 

[explorerzip]

No, not money or brains. It is EGO
It is a competition between the egotistical billionaires.
Next we will be reading and discussing a disaster related to the space program.

Like the EGO of guys writing essays about their so-called great or bad time they had with SPs. Or getting into water cooler debates over mostly the same topics over and over again with strangers online.

 

[John Wick]

The pressure down there is roughly 5,500PSI. That means that the water column directly above an individual say about 1 foot wide (torso front to back) by 2 feet wide (shoulder to shoulder) weighs about 1,584,000 lbs.....just waiting to drop on somebody. And that's just a birds-eye view of an individual; now multiply that by the total relevant exposure area of the sub.

When the ARA San Juan imploded a few years ago, the water entered the pressure hull at 1,800mph when it was a depth of 1,275 feet. When the USS Thresher imploded back 60 years ago, the water entered the pressure hull at 2,000mph when it was a depth of 2,400 feet.

This Titan submersible was at 10,000 feet (4 times deeper than the Thresher) when it imploded....the entry speed of the water going into it was probably north of 3,000mph (maybe up 5,000mph?). It happens so fast, that the human brain doesn't have the ability to recognize what is happening since the signals to the brain are slower than the collapse. This sub was imploded at supersonic if not hypersonic speeds. How fast is 3,000mph? Imaging traveling from the Financial District to Yorkville in 2 seconds.

My math is likely off here and there, but physics behind all of this is staggering. They never stood a chance.

Exactly. Their bodies were instantaneously turned into hamburger meat and the slurry messes were then injected out into the ocean at a speed of Mach 4. Absolutely nothing left to find by anyone.

 

[John Wick]

James Cameron mentioned this is the first ever fatality for this kind of deep dive sub. In over sixty years. The one he designed and had built went to the bottom of the Mariana trench 36000 feet in depth.

I understood Cameron was the submersible pilot, and took part in testing of the craft, but pretty sure he wasn't the brainchild behind the actual design, engineering and build of the craft. Very few people exist on the planet with those type of credentials.

 

[Greytop19]

Like the EGO of guys writing essays about their so-called great or bad time they had with SPs. Or getting into water cooler debates over mostly the same topics over and over again with strangers online.

You are rambling about SPs. How many millionaires or billionaires are on TERB ? Any idea ?

 

[danmand]

I understood Cameron was the submersible pilot, and took part in testing of the craft, but pretty sure he wasn't the brainchild behind the actual design, engineering and build of the craft. Very few people exist on the planet with those type of credentials.

The stresses and strengths of materials are well understood and routine engineering.

 

[Zoot Allures]

When was the last time you looked at the tax tables ???
When was the last time you read the tax code ???

My thoughts are why raise taxes on rich when they hire tax lawyers
smarter than the tax lawyers that write the tax code so they can avoid taxes?
Find some way to stop tax avoidence

Another thought is you can only make the rich pay taxes to the point they
will take money offshore and to stop that seems impossible as you cannot
tell other counties what to do so you are forced to keep taxes low

Another thought is that it is not at all relevent the percentage of tax you pay
so the rich should stop whinning they pay to much. The only thing that matters
is what you got left


If you made the money by producing stuff and making society richer then you
deserve your wealth, it was your incentive to make society richer, that is human nature
When one gets richer simply because they got wealth and contribute nothing to socity that is wrong

 

[explorerzip]

You are rambling about SPs. How many millionaires or billionaires are on TERB ? Any idea ?

Thanks for confirming my point. The ego these rich people have is the same as the ego on display on this board.

If there are are guys here that are supposedly spending thousands a month on escorts, that would put them in the millionaire camp IMO. Maybe they're not making millions in income, but have enough assets and no debts that they can spend lavishly on SPs and brag about it.

 

[Zoot Allures]

The pressure down there is roughly 5,500PSI. That means that the water column directly above an individual say about 1 foot wide (torso front to back) by 2 feet wide (shoulder to shoulder) weighs about 1,584,000 lbs.....just waiting to drop on somebody. And that's just a birds-eye view of an individual; now multiply that by the total relevant exposure area of the sub.

When the ARA San Juan imploded a few years ago, the water entered the pressure hull at 1,800mph when it was a depth of 1,275 feet. When the USS Thresher imploded back 60 years ago, the water entered the pressure hull at 2,000mph when it was a depth of 2,400 feet.

This Titan submersible was at 10,000 feet (4 times deeper than the Thresher) when it imploded....the entry speed of the water going into it was probably north of 3,000mph (maybe up 5,000mph?). It happens so fast, that the human brain doesn't have the ability to recognize what is happening since the signals to the brain are slower than the collapse. This sub was imploded at supersonic if not hypersonic speeds. How fast is 3,000mph? Imaging traveling from the Financial District to Yorkville in 2 seconds.

My math is likely off here and there, but physics behind all of this is staggering. They never stood a chance.

Interesting, Thanks

 

[Greytop19]

Thanks for confirming my point. The ego these rich people have is the same as the ego on display on this board.

If there are are guys here that are supposedly spending thousands a month on escorts, that would put them in the millionaire camp IMO. Maybe they're not making millions in income, but have enough assets and no debts that they can spend lavishly on SPs and brag about it.

The guys here are the "wanna be" rich guys.
I see the same guys posting reviews every other day.
I am happy for the wealthy guys who have assets and no debts in Toronto, which I seriously doubt.
The super rich invest money to make money, not spend it on MP, SC or escorts.
That is a wonderful happy ending. Maybe ??

 

[jalimon]

Exactly. Their bodies were instantaneously turned into hamburger meat and the slurry messes were then injected out into the ocean at a speed of Mach 4. Absolutely nothing left to find by anyone.

Few seconds before implosions the pression made their eardrums explode to the point of instant complete loss of consciousness. So when their bodies were smashed they were already dead.

What a complete waste of life and money. All while a boat filled with 600 migrants was left to themselves on the coast of Greece... No one to help those poor people.