ya you should actually listen to the video, he wanted to hire new, young people with fresh ideas, not a bunch of ex submariners. Beyond the one mention of "50 year old white guy" (describing the typical retired submariner) there is no reference whatsoever to anything to do with DEI. Call the guy an ageist if you want to get your panties in a twist and rage about something, but to blame this tragedy on "DEI hires" is a big huge nothingburger.
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Not necessarily.
Professional engineers have a responsibility to ensure proper protocols are followed. If they are fired for refusing to follow Rush's design ideas, yes.
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CEO a mention the term “ white guy”. If he had not mentioned “ white guy” then you can call ageist! If he had only mentioned 50+year person then it would not be DEI hired. ! There are black 50+ year ex military navy submarines personal or technical or platform operators... but also mention race specifically “ 50+ year old white guy! “
PS. You can call it Ageism And anti white racism. Perfect combination. People died ( a billionaire& millionaire ) because of this CEO ocean gate arrogance.
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I don’t think this was a DEI issue. I think Rush wanted to spin it that way to his clients and investors; it seems more likely to me that he wanted younger, less experienced, more malleable staff who would not challenge his design ideas, do what they’re told, and not say No to him.
If I remember correctly, according to the maritime law, the operator in the international waters is under the jurisdiction of the the country where his vessel is registered. That's why we have flags of convenience to make things "easier " for those wishing to conduct commerce on high seas. The issue of liability, for example, vary greatly between various countries.
I don't know if the sub would carriy the same flag as the tow ship. You are correct that most ships are registered in Panama, The Bahamas, etc. because they can follow the labour laws (or lack thereof) of those countries. That's why there's a lot of Filipinos working on ships because the cruise or cargo companies can pay them next to nothing.
The US has a a law called the Jones Act. Ships carrying cargo or people between US ports must be flagged and built there and also crewed mostly by citizens. The ship also has to follow US labour laws including minimum wage. That covers Hawaii, Alaska and territories like Puerto Rico. That's why foreign flagged cruise ships (which is most of them) have stop at a port like Vancouver before re-entering US waters.
Fun fact, there's a cruise ship called Pride of America that operates exclusively around Hawaii. Since it's always sailing in US waters it has to be flagged and built there and crewed mostly by citizens. The ship also doesn't have a casino because it's illegal.
Which inspirational DEI person got hire go to video time 1:36.. noted 1 young female Tit Tok got hired quoted in the video . And also at video time 2:27 # oceangate women (5 women hired) …company tweeting celebrating the diversity hired data analysis, programer, etc..
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Carbon fiber composite is brittle whereas metal and alloys
are ductile. Metal surface could deform when it succumbs
to pressure whereas brittle surface of equal strength would
implode. I have had glass cup that cracked into pieces all of a
sudden without showing any advanced signs of deterioration
of material having been used for hot and cold drinks.
Greed, probably.
Carbon fibre is lighter, so you can make it bigger and have more passengers - that means more money.
Long term testing of a new material and design approach means not bringing passengers - that means less money.
Here is a picture of a monitor in the Titan screwed directly into the composite carbon hull
picture of training tankHere is a picture of a monitor in the Titan screwed directly into the composite carbon hull
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The sub that imploded was on what was called mission 5.
Here is a video from mission 3 by a Youtuber I follow, a diver caled DALLMYD.
It shows some of the external testing and some of the people lost on mission 5.
Mission 3 and 4 apparently dodn't dive to Titanic because of weather conditions.
Seems like there were a mulititude of problems pretrip as well.
Also shows a test dive to 3,000 feet from inside the sub
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Here is a video from mission 3 by a Youtuber I follow, a diver caled DALLMYD.
It shows some of the external testing and some of the people lost on mission 5.
Mission 3 and 4 apparently dodn't dive to Titanic because of weather conditions.
Seems like there were a mulititude of problems pretrip as well.
Also shows a test dive to 3,000 feet from inside the sub
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That's scary.
If I'm going into a vessel like that I want to ensure that all the engineers that created it are using the best materials and that they're the best engineers in the field (which would mean 100% male).
Going woke for brownie points in do-or-die scenarios has a steep price. These folks were doomed.
Female engineers are terrific and I applaud anything they're creating for society.
However, in a do-or-die with no backup option scenario, I'd opt for the best engineers. That increases the probability that all the engineers on the project would be male. I understand that this doesn't gel with the "we are all equal" sentiment but in reality it shouldn't be a controversial statement.
The best singers, dancers, songwriters, philosophers, musicians, builders, athletes, scientists, engineers, mathematicians, tradesmen, chefs, fashion designers, business moguls, hunters, pilots, writers, leaders, inventors, programmers, are male. It's a man world.
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Time will tell.
But I'd stack a team of top tier male engineers against your team of top tier female engineers any day of the year.
