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Three Dallas police officers deceased along with seven wounded tonight during protest

slowandeasy

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Its the answer that the right wing doesn't want to hear.
They want to fix all problems with more 'security' and guns.
Frankie, I know you are better than this. I am far from right wing.. When your answer starts with a lie, nothing else you say will be taken seriously.. "having competent police who don't shoot harmless black guys for selling CDs".
 

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nottyboi

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You're right, police should withdraw from black communities and let gangs handle justice.

That will surely bring down crime.

Good news your application has been approved!!!, your robes and hood are in the mail!!!
 

nottyboi

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Yep. If a white guy killed multiple cops and was holed up while heavily armed the police would have just walked in and calmly asked him to come out. :sarcasm if you didn't get it:

When you know the guy wants to kill cops why would you send any more cops into harms way?
There have been many cases of this, yes. But we often see unarmed black people killed. Why is that? Because there is a LOWER VALUE placed on black lives.
 

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nottyboi - I recall you're the guy that thought it was a good idea to have 30 cops surround a man with a sword in order to take him down without causing him any harm, even though it put the cops and citizens in the vicinity in great danger. Your knock against police is unreasonable. I'm just shocked that you actually believe what you write and are not just trolling.
 

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Frankie, I know you are better than this. I am far from right wing.. When your answer starts with a lie, nothing else you say will be taken seriously.. "having competent police who don't shoot harmless black guys for selling CDs".
Ok, so what is your solution?
Go ahead and prove me wrong and I'll apologize for going overboard.
(though we could ask copy and paste man what his solution would be for real entertainment)
 

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LOL because that's exactly what i said. if you're only going to have a debate with strawmen at least let the rest of us know so we don't bother engaging your dumb ass.
I'm all in favor of community policing and programs but you also need enforcement of the law. Black communities are absolutely plagued with crime and it's not only about helping the thugs find a better way, it's also about protecting everybody else from the thugs .

BLM encourages people not to cooperate with the police so when some upstanding member of the black community shoots some black kids at a BBQ nobody talks to the police and the perpetrators continue their crime wave.

Let's note that the officers who died in Dallas lost their lives providing security to a black protest event, and in an American city that has one of the most progressive policing policies there is, with community outreach and crime prevention programs.

At the end of the day more blacks are shot by police for one fundamental reason: more blacks get into violent confrontations with the police because more blacks commit crimes and because groups like BLM teach blacks to confront the police instead of cooperating with the police.

At the end of the day you really are proposing that police withdraw from the community. Their presence at community events is protested rather than welcomed.
 

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nottyboi - I recall you're the guy that thought it was a good idea to have 30 cops surround a man with a sword in order to take him down without causing him any harm, even though it put the cops and citizens in the vicinity in great danger. Your knock against police is unreasonable. I'm just shocked that you actually believe what you write and are not just trolling.
I didn't say it was a good idea, I posted a video of the British police DOING IT. It did not put the police in great danger as they were professionals and acted with courage and professionalism. They understand their job is to REDUCE violence and not DELIVER it. How has the current course of behavior improved things? It has brought us to the edge of a civil war with increased militancy. I am shocked that you would encourage more of the same when it has brought disaster and more violence.
 

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I'm all in favor of community policing and programs but you also need enforcement of the law. Black communities are absolutely plagued with crime and it's not only about helping the thugs find a better way, it's also about protecting everybody else from the thugs .

BLM encourages people not to cooperate with the police so when some upstanding member of the black community shoots some black kids at a BBQ nobody talks to the police and the perpetrators continue their crime wave.

Let's note that the officers who died in Dallas lost their lives providing security to a black protest event, and in an American city that has one of the most progressive policing policies there is, with community outreach and crime prevention programs.

At the end of the day more blacks are shot by police for one fundamental reason: more blacks get into violent confrontations with the police because more blacks commit crimes and because groups like BLM teach blacks to confront the police instead of cooperating with the police.

At the end of the day you really are proposing that police withdraw from the community. Their presence at community events is protested rather than welcomed.
If you say so Mr Grand Wizard....
 

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...the award recognizes "significant contributions towards a positive race relations climate in Toronto."
BLM is destructive and divisive.

The Hubbard Award should go to someone like Sharon Joseph.

TORONTO, Canada – Sharon Joseph, a native of Trinidad and Tobago, migrated to Canada some twenty-five years ago and since then has been working assiduously to make a difference in her adopted homeland.

She has been an outreach worker, counsellor, social advocate and philanthropist in communities in Toronto for over ten years. Sharon has a history of bringing people together to solve some of the most challenging crises we face, including the death of a child or other family member as a result of gun violence or stabbing. She is also a crime prevention advocate in the Greater Toronto Area (GTA).

Sharon Joseph
Sharon coordinates an annual Peace Love and Unity walk in the Jane Finch community for the youth and their families to bring some awareness that gun violence is not the answer to solving conflict. This is the seventh year of the walk and Sharon's intention is to invite other communities in the GTA to walk for the same cause.

“We do carry a banner that says ‘Families In Action Saving Our Children.’ Our theme this year is ‘East meets West - Peace is in, Prison is out,’” she said.

Advocating for the needs and issues in the heart of her community, Sharon is the founder of a grassroots non-profit agency called Break Away Relief Care (BRC). As the director of BRC, Sharon organises a campaign of food and clothing to feed the less fortunate in the community.

She understands people in despair, especially the youth and disadvantaged families. Sharon is a woman of action she is determined to save lives of young people through right educational choices, art and determination to succeed.

Sharon also established a visual memorial and a mural in 2008, to show local youth the number of young black people lost to gun violence every year, highlighting the unsolved cases.

Through a variety of community projects, programs, seminars and workshops, Sharon empowers, motivates and inspires youth, and instills in them a sense of pride, self esteem and purpose. She encourages young people to set goals for themselves and focus on those goals.
 

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BLM is destructive and divisive.

The Hubbard Award should go to someone like Sharon Joseph.

TORONTO, Canada – Sharon Joseph, a native of Trinidad and Tobago, migrated to Canada some twenty-five years ago and since then has been working assiduously to make a difference in her adopted homeland.

She has been an outreach worker, counsellor, social advocate and philanthropist in communities in Toronto for over ten years. Sharon has a history of bringing people together to solve some of the most challenging crises we face, including the death of a child or other family member as a result of gun violence or stabbing. She is also a crime prevention advocate in the Greater Toronto Area (GTA).

Sharon Joseph
Sharon coordinates an annual Peace Love and Unity walk in the Jane Finch community for the youth and their families to bring some awareness that gun violence is not the answer to solving conflict. This is the seventh year of the walk and Sharon's intention is to invite other communities in the GTA to walk for the same cause.

“We do carry a banner that says ‘Families In Action Saving Our Children.’ Our theme this year is ‘East meets West - Peace is in, Prison is out,’” she said.

Advocating for the needs and issues in the heart of her community, Sharon is the founder of a grassroots non-profit agency called Break Away Relief Care (BRC). As the director of BRC, Sharon organises a campaign of food and clothing to feed the less fortunate in the community.

She understands people in despair, especially the youth and disadvantaged families. Sharon is a woman of action she is determined to save lives of young people through right educational choices, art and determination to succeed.

Sharon also established a visual memorial and a mural in 2008, to show local youth the number of young black people lost to gun violence every year, highlighting the unsolved cases.

Through a variety of community projects, programs, seminars and workshops, Sharon empowers, motivates and inspires youth, and instills in them a sense of pride, self esteem and purpose. She encourages young people to set goals for themselves and focus on those goals.
Sounds like an infinitely better candidate.
 

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This is just really weird...LOL.
Does he even know he's at a funeral :biggrin1:

 

nottyboi

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This is just really weird...LOL.
Does he even know he's at a funeral :biggrin1:

The greatest achievement of Bush as president, and one that I still admire today, was his athletic prowess in dodging the shoes that were thrown at him by an Iraqi protestor. That guy threw speedballs and Dubya was really impressive in dodging them. It was the highlight of his administration lol. Hopefully the shoes are in a glass case at the Bush library.
 

SkyRider

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Sounds like an infinitely better candidate.
Yes, the community need more people like Miss Joseph and none of the BLM theatrics. The solution is in the grassroots.

Many ethnic groups come to Canada and in one or two generations they are producing doctors, lawyers, IT specialists and other productive members of society. It can be done but not by yelling and screaming and blaming the "white man". Sorry to be so blunt.
 

SkyRider

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Right here in Dodge City, two more shot to-night. One dead. I'll go out on a limb and assume the two victims are black. Police looking for 2 black males. BLM is probably watching this closely to make sure the police don't hurt the two shooters. BLM could care less about the two victims as they weren't shot by police.
 

Smallcock

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I didn't say it was a good idea, I posted a video of the British police DOING IT. It did not put the police in great danger as they were professionals and acted with courage and professionalism..
Acting courageous and professional doesn't remove great danger when dealing with sword wielding lunatic. In the video you posted, the general public, and all officers involved, were put in great danger for no good reason.

It's remarkable that you believe otherwise. But given this is your train of thought, it makes sense why you believe police should tippy toe around an ex military man hellbent on killing more of them using high powered weaponry.
 

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I'm all in favor of community policing and programs but you also need enforcement of the law. Black communities are absolutely plagued with crime and it's not only about helping the thugs find a better way, it's also about protecting everybody else from the thugs .

BLM encourages people not to cooperate with the police so when some upstanding member of the black community shoots some black kids at a BBQ nobody talks to the police and the perpetrators continue their crime wave.

Let's note that the officers who died in Dallas lost their lives providing security to a black protest event, and in an American city that has one of the most progressive policing policies there is, with community outreach and crime prevention programs.

At the end of the day more blacks are shot by police for one fundamental reason: more blacks get into violent confrontations with the police because more blacks commit crimes and because groups like BLM teach blacks to confront the police instead of cooperating with the police.

At the end of the day you really are proposing that police withdraw from the community. Their presence at community events is protested rather than welcomed.
You are missing one key thing in your explanation of blacks getting shot.

Police confront more blacks.

Police fail to de escalate.

Not that many black needed to get shot.

The only difference these days is the presence of cameras.

I am certain many of the deaths were unnecessary.
 

frankcastle

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Yes, the community need more people like Miss Joseph and none of the BLM theatrics. The solution is in the grassroots.

Many ethnic groups come to Canada and in one or two generations they are producing doctors, lawyers, IT specialists and other productive members of society. It can be done but not by yelling and screaming and blaming the "white man". Sorry to be so blunt.
If yelling screaming and blaming is all the blm does then i would agree but surely many of them are also involved in community programs.
 
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