Three Dallas police officers deceased along with seven wounded tonight during protest

[slowandeasy]

No it makes it clear that they DO NOT TRUST the police and the police need to get their SHIT together before they can rejoin the community. It highlights the fact that there is a HUGE trust issue with the police and by doing this they IMHO did a service to ALL Canadians regardless of color who have been on the receiving end of police abuse. For that I thank them.

Lets call this silliness for what it is. The police probably represent less than 2% of the problem. Why do you continue to ignore the elephant in the room. If people like you were also screaming about the other issues the community faces, you might get more support. In fact, the more you dig in, the more you turn away those who would support you. That should be obvious.
Until trust issues that you speak of is mostly paranoia ( at least in Canada). Note the use of the word "mostly"

 

[frankcastle]

Lets call this silliness for what it is. The police probably represent less than 2% of the problem. Why do you continue to ignore the elephant in the room. If people like you were also screaming about the other issues the community faces, you might get more support. In fact, the more you dig in, the more you turn away those who would support you. That should be obvious.
Until trust issues that you speak of is mostly paranoia ( at least in Canada). Note the use of the word "mostly"

Actually there are tricks cops use to onvade your rights. They might pull you over. Have you step out then offer to get your coat. Meanwhile they use it as a chance to tske a look in your car.

There are videos on youtube of people filming themselves interacting with police. They only open the window a crack to give identification and speak.

This is not restricted to blacks.

Just an interesting side note.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Back up take cover. Have someone approach from behind.

You can even approach while pointing your gun at him, after he was wounded and down.

 

[nottyboi]

Lets call this silliness for what it is. The police probably represent less than 2% of the problem. Why do you continue to ignore the elephant in the room. If people like you were also screaming about the other issues the community faces, you might get more support. In fact, the more you dig in, the more you turn away those who would support you. That should be obvious.
Until trust issues that you speak of is mostly paranoia ( at least in Canada). Note the use of the word "mostly"

What is that elephant? Do tell. Trust issue are not paranoia. There have been many documented cases recently. Also the reality is the only reason there are all those cases of late is due to cellphone cameras. This has been going on for DECADES, and it used to be even worse. Look at the secrecy surrounding SIU reports. Why is this necessary? There is no accountability and transparency that is the problem. If the police had nothing to hide, why are they so opposed to body cameras?

 

[canada-man]

Rapper Calls Out Hypocrisy of Black Lives Matter: ‘We Kill Each Other’

Baton Rouge-based rapper Kevin Gates has posted a video calling out what he terms the “bullsh*t” of the Black Lives Matter movement in the wake of recent high-profile police shootings of black men.
“We kill each other, but as soon as a white boy kills one of us, everybody go to hoopin’ and hollerin’ and all that old stupid-ass sh*t,” the 30-year-old rapper said.

“That’s bullsh*t,” Gates added, blasting the anti-police movement for its lack of similar outrage about black-on-black crime.

“When you stand for something, you’ve got the stand for it all the way, not half way,” he said, before describing the lengths some black people go to kill each other: “We kill each other. I’m talking about we lay up under each other’s cars, lay behind each other’s houses then whip by — BOOM BOOM — kill everybody in the car.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollyw...ates-calls-hypocrisy-black-lives-matter-kill/

 

[canada-man]

 

[omegaphallic]

Snipers shooting random police officers is the most fucked up thing iv heard about all these protests. And BLM with their hate for law enforcement and their "what do we want- dead cops" chants has everything to do with this tragedy. Regardless whether or not they
claim responsibility the blame is on them.

I haven't heard about the chanting, I'll look into it. I support an end to racial profiling, less racist discrimination in the court system, and better training for police and more none lethal tools, but after intially supporting BLM, I started to detest their leadership and methods. Nothing they do has helped black people, they've only made things worse for everybody.

 

[fuji]

It is a societal issue not a cultural issue. It is the result of many factors.

You simplifying the problem is not helpful

It's a cultural issue. Sorry.

Look no further than hip hop and its glorification of antisocial, criminal behavior. Kids grow up idolizing murderers. It isn't just socioeconomic and in fact the socioeconomics are as much a product of that culture as the violence is.

These kids grow up emulating heroes who drop out of school and join gangs. That isn't going to lead to a life of employment and high wages. It leads to bad grades, no job, and then people like you blaming their failure on socioeconomics.

Bull. Shit.

 

[Occasionally]

It's a cultural issue. Sorry.

Look no further than hip hop and its glorification of antisocial, criminal behavior. Kids grow up idolizing murderers. It isn't just socioeconomic and in fact the socioeconomics are as much a product of that culture as the violence is.

These kids grow up emulating heroes who drop out of school and join gangs. That isn't going to lead to a life of employment and high wages. It leads to bad grades, no job, and then people like you blaming their failure on socioeconomics.

Bull. Shit.

I've had my debates with Fuji in the past, but I agree with him. It's a cultural thing.

It's well known black people have an overall demographic that is poorer and has less education (as a whole). If it was a societal thing, then any ethnicity who has pockets of similar demographics would do crime as much as black people, but they don't.

I forget who posted that link about Asians and Indian people being not as well off as first thought, but that goes to show that just because some groups of people rely on social assistance it doesn't mean they automatically commit lots of crime.

Check and US or Canadian crime report and Asians don't even show up half the time. The rates are so low that there might not even be an Asian metric.

So does that mean all Asians are rich and they don't bother with crime? Or maybe it's simply because as a whole, they just don't bother doing stupid shit because they might have some more ingrained parenting and such that teaches kids to not fuck around so much?

So contrary to popular belief: Poor =/= More Crime

 

[Jubee]

It's cultural all right, now I can't wait for Caribanaa day. Lovely.

 

[AK-47]

I've had my debates with Fuji in the past, but I agree with him. It's a cultural thing

I disagree with this.

I'm a pasty white guy but I like a lot of rap music from the 90's (Snoop, Coolio, Tupac....etc), does that mean I contribute to gangsta culture because I bought a few of their albums. If we're gonna go down that road we should all stop watching Hollywood mob movies because it contributes to the mafia lifestyle.

Thats ridiculous

 

[canada-man]

blast from the past

 

[fuji]

I disagree with this.

I'm a pasty white guy but I like a lot of rap music from the 90's (Snoop, Coolio, Tupac....etc), does that mean I contribute to gangsta culture because I bought a few of their albums. If we're gonna go down that road we should all stop watching Hollywood mob movies because it contributes to the mafia lifestyle.

Thats ridiculous

Do you dress up with pants hanging around your knees? Was your childhood idol a felon? Did your role models growing up brag about their criminal history?

A few albums isn't the same thing as growing up living and breathing a criminal culture.

 

[canada-man]

BLM does not care if you have a job and being late may get you fired

 

[AK-47]

Do you dress up with pants hanging around your knees?

No, but to label every black kid who dresses like that as contributing to gangsta culture is also ridiculous.

Using fuji logic girls who dress up slutty add to rape culture. Is that what you're saying as well??

P.S. I still think your doggie has a drinking problem, although he says he can stop anytime

He seems to be sleeping in a lot and missing lots of doggie walks.

It might be time for an intervention.

 

[GPIDEAL]

No, but to label every black kid who dresses like that as contributing to gangsta culture is also ridiculous.

Using fuji logic girls who dress up slutty add to rape culture. Is that what you're saying as well??


He seems to be sleeping in a lot and missing lots of doggie walks.

It might be time for an intervention.

Excellent comments AK! (And funny about that little doggie).

 

[slowandeasy]

What is that elephant? Do tell. Trust issue are not paranoia. There have been many documented cases recently. Also the reality is the only reason there are all those cases of late is due to cellphone cameras. This has been going on for DECADES, and it used to be even worse. Look at the secrecy surrounding SIU reports. Why is this necessary? There is no accountability and transparency that is the problem. If the police had nothing to hide, why are they so opposed to body cameras?

You are an intelligent man, I am sure you will be able to figure it out if you are intellectually honest.
I would try to explain it to you, but no matter what I say, you would twist it into racism anyways, so why bother.

At some point, when you are ready to put in the hard work , and want to really make a difference, we can discuss.

 

[Occasionally]

I disagree with this.

I'm a pasty white guy but I like a lot of rap music from the 90's (Snoop, Coolio, Tupac....etc), does that mean I contribute to gangsta culture because I bought a few of their albums. If we're gonna go down that road we should all stop watching Hollywood mob movies because it contributes to the mafia lifestyle.

Thats ridiculous

Nobody ever said every person listening to rap music is a crook. Heck, 10 years ago I was listening to 50 Cent stuff as he was a big thing at the time. All some people are saying is that some cultures (like the black community) seems to have higher crime, and most of the problems, killings and issues are within their own community. Deaths by asshole cops are a small fraction of killings. You know it as well as anyone else, yet where's all the focus and social groups protesting and parading about fixing their own neighbourhoods?

And besides people can't have it both ways. BLM supporters don't like people critiquing their background. And guys like Micah Johnson are considered outcasts and not a BLM issue. Yet when it comes to dumb things cops do (Dirty Harry or racist ones), somehow it's a blanket approach that all cops are problems.

 

[canada-man]

3 Baton Rouge officers feared dead in shooting

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/17/us/baton-route-police-shooting/index.html

 

[canada-man]

3 officers dead 7 shot on baton rouge.