When I wrote "at the time" I meant the percentage of Texans who were vaccinated wouldnt have reached anywhere near herd imunity
Texas Covid cases going down after relaxing mask law coupled with multiple factors
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Name as many factors as you like.
I guess it went over your head that that was not a real equation. It was simply an example to show that when multiple factors are involved in any process and we do not know exactly how they interact and to what degree, it is unsolvable. And that makes your assertion on masks unprovable. Go ahead and make a solvable equation using lenny's variables below.
Actually, it's pretty funny that you thought that that was an actual equation with specifically 6 factors that were all additive.
Virus transmission, unlike that equation or you, is not nearly that simple.
Actually, I can come up with a few factors:Name as many factors as you like.
I guess it went over your head that that was not a real equation. It was simply an example to show that when multiple factors are involved in any process and we do not know exactly how they interact and to what degree, it is unsolvable. And that makes your assertion on masks unprovable. Go ahead and make a solvable equation using lenny's variables below.
Actually, it's pretty funny that you thought that that was an actual equation with specifically 6 factors that were all additive.
1. Hand-washing
2. Social distancing
3. Not following lockdown procedures
4. face-touching
Thats just 4. Which is why I asked you for 2 more, which you cannot provide and then you pretend it wasnt a real equation.
As far as how many of these factors figured into the equation we do not know, however its logical to assume that these factors stayed relatively constant and the only variable was (and still is) masks. This clearly shows that the relaxing of mask laws made absolutely no impact on the decrease in new Texas cases, nor the increase in new Ontario cases.
The proof is in the pudding
I can't stop laughing that you still think that was a real equation to calculate covid transmission. WOW. Just WOW!!!
Here. Knock yourself out. 2 more factors.
Add in vaccinations (be sure to include rate of vaccination, percentage vaccinated fully, percentage with one dose, which vaccine and its' efficacy, age of those getting vaccinated) and add in how different strains affect the results (include quantifiable numbers of the ease of transmission of each strain, how virulent each strain is, how prevalent each strain was in Texas) keeping in mind that different strains had different levels of prevalence at different times.
Nobody could expect the equation to be as simple as a+b+c+d etc. except maybe a simpleton. Feel free to make up your own equation with all the factors, keeping in mind that all of them are constantly fluctuating and that proves that masks don't work. A mathematically sound equation would be using logic to prove your point.
I dont think you're laughing. You practically have a meltdown if/when someone disagrees with you
Already been discussed, honeybun. When masks laws were relaxed barely 30% of Texas was vaccinated.
You lost this debate. Be a man and admit it
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Have any of you actually tried putting together an epidemiological model? It's damn hard. (And no, it isn't a linear equation.)
1. Hand-washing
2. Social distancing
3. Not following lockdown procedures
4. face-touching
You would probably bundle face-touching and hand-washing into "hygiene measures".
You would add mask-wearing (adjusted for an average of types of masks and where they are being worn)
The presence of lockdown procedures (and what kinds they are. Indoor allowed? Gatherings? How many? Travel restrictions?)
Previous infections
Vaccination rate
You would probably want to work weather in there since it affects time spent indoors and outdoors.
I don't think that it would be hard. It'd be impossible. There are just too many dynamic factors on top of the factors that we don't even understand.
The correlation between the factors is constantly in flux.
Sorry, but you are the last person who could get me angry. I don't get angry when someone is so laughably wrong.[/QUOTE]
As I figured. No equation. Just a dodge. You said that you needed two more factors. You got them. You can't prove shit.
Hey Mancini, being stubborn and repetitive does not make you right. I am trying not to hurl insults so I won't attempt to say what being stubborn AND wrong makes you. Hint: it's not good.
In your mind you have won the debate against a dozen other posters as well. Except for TJ and hatchet, everybody disagrees with you. Phil is smarter than everyone else.
This video is of the crowd at last weekends event in Houston Texas.
It clearly shows that while the event staff were all wearing masks hardly any in the 16000 audience were.
So once again to state that the majority of Texans are still wearing masks would be erroneous.
Good for you. Being angry all the time is bad for your blood pressure
As I said before, my hypothesis is a lot stronger than yours
Here it sounds like you're getting a tad angry and a bit frustrated. Just accept you've lost the debate, its better for your health
Thanks for the compliment, bro
You need to keep in mind that, to win, my task is much easier than yours.Good for you. Being angry all the time is bad for your blood pressure
As I said before, my hypothesis is a lot stronger than yours
Here it sounds like you're getting a tad angry and a bit frustrated. Just accept you've lost the debate, its better for your health
Thanks for the compliment, bro
Your hypothesis is to prove that masks don't provide any benefit to slowing the spread of covid. We have agreed that the rate at which covid spreads is based on a wide array of factors that continually fluctuate. As such it is a very complex system and proving your point is very difficult.
I actually do not have a hypothesis that I am trying to prove. I am only trying to prove the you are wrong. And no one can deny that proving you wrong is much, much easier than trying to prove, against science, that masks are useless in preventing the spread of covid.
So, as they say in tennis, advantage shack. And my advantage has resulted in me declaring game, set and match for me. If you disagree, maybe we can have a poll to see what others think. You'll have 3 votes for sure between you, TJ and hatchet. Do you think you'd get any more votes?
BTW, I hope that I didn't sound even a tad angry because gloating is good fun. Maybe one day you will have the opportunity and see how it feels.
Will the Jays take 1st place tonight?
Nope.
If you were to write a thesis on statistics for your university PhD, and all your data input was relatively the same, except for masks. And if you were then to argue that masks reduced viral transmission, even though the data shows the COMPLETE opposite, you would get a huge F on your thesis and fail your PhD exam.
But to understand that you would need a post-secondary education
You're doing a terrible job of it
Your poll means nothing, because it'll include a dozen or so libtards who cannot think for themselves, they need the "experts" to do it for them
I gloat at your posts daily, and yes you do sound a but frustrated and angry. Try getting outside more
Jays just have to win the series. And yes, they will get first place by tomorrow
Which is why you handle those with statistical assumptions. (And why every good model la
False assumption since that is a self-selecting group.
I completely agree that I very much doubt at this point the majority of Texans are wearing masks in the majority of situations, but this doesn't actually provide much evidence.
I think the concept of a null hypothesis is not one people here are going to be familiar with.
The massive drop in rates ended when the mask mandate ended and there has only been a slow decrease since then despite a huge jump in numbers of vaccinated people. Most people would agree that likely the lack of masks has slowed the decrease in cases caused by vaccinations but thankfully we have you and your ridiculous campaign that masks are useless.
Yet despite admitting cases are affected by a wide variety of factors, you still want to pretend any increase is because masks are useless.
Still trying to pretend that a group of MMA fans making up 0.06% of the population is a representative sample?
Yet you admit all those factors are not constant so you are full of crap as usual.
Well lets see shall we.......I put up a video of the crowd at the Alverez fight with 73000 souls there and that wasn't representative sample.
Then I put up a video outside of a bar on St. Patty's day and opening day for the Texas Rangers and heard crickets.
Now a video of 16000 rabid MMA fans . And it just seems none of these seem to resonate within the confines of your paradigms
Gee I wonder why........LOLOL......Just admit you are wrong........The majority of the population are not wearing masks and covid rates are plummeting,,,
And more so they haven't been wearing masks for quite a while now......
