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another interesting quote from some 36yo SB profile:

P.S. Please do not contact me to offer three-figure amounts. Seriously, you belong elsewhere.
 
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Leimonis said:
It is often not easy to decipher. Try this:

It’s been about 8 years since I’ve been with a man, I primarily sleep with women. So for me, I do feel that sets me aside from the rest, no one wants a woman who’s a pit stop if you know what I mean. I don’t have a high body count, I respect and value my body, and beyond the psychical features, my intelligence and depth is what I find most valuable about myself.

I will be fully transparent, XXX ppm won’t work for me. I’m looking for a 5g monthly allowance. This is not a longterm number, I simply want to get out of my debt by the end of spring/summer, so that I can focus on rebuilding my life. I’m exhausted living paycheck to paycheck and it still not being enough. I have 14g debt in loans I took out for school and 21g left on my car payments to settle before I can even think of getting a place of my own. Once I’m debt free, I’m happy to reproach the agreement and cut the allowance in half. If that’s something we can agree on, you would be the only person I have an arrangement with. I would preferably like to have only 1 arrangement and long term, my sexual health is very important to me. If this is something that could work for you, I’m happy to make plans to meet in person ❤
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That's easy to decipher. It means, not for shack.

She's done nothing to prove her worth. Words on their own, mean nothing. And no guarantees that when you reach the 50% threshold she doesn't pull a Kaiser Soszer (sp?)

 
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shack said:
student with a curious mind and a restless spirit, always eager to explore new horizons and embrace life's adventures. When I’m not buried in textbooks or chasing academic dreams, you’ll probably find me discovering hidden gems in the city, enjoying a good book, or trying out a new hobby just to keep things interesting. I value meaningful connections, great conversations, and a touch of spontaneity. Life is too short to stay in one lane, and I’m ready to see where this journey takes me. Let’s make it memorable!
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Another similar writing style and one exact phrase:

Hello! I’m passionate about life's diverse experiences, driven by creativity and curiosity. Whether I’m reading a great book, exploring the outdoors, or experimenting in the kitchen, I’m always eager for new challenges. My love for art and culture takes me to museums, theaters, and music festivals. I also dedicate time to volunteering, environmental clean-ups, and promoting wellness through mindfulness, yoga, and hiking. Above all, I value meaningful connections with family and friends, as they’re the core of my happiness. My goal is to live a life full of learning, adventure, and positive impact
 
shack said:
She's done nothing to prove her worth. Words on their own, mean nothing.
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It’s worse than that lol I’d argue that she officially admits to be financially irresponsible if not plain stupid.
 
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RobI said:
Yeah, that's certainly possible, you never know. If you're closer in age to the ladies you're seeing, there's more possibility for things to evolve into FWB or other situations. There are no rules, really,y which is what makes it fun :) On the other hand, you might end up with late-night requests for money because you're the only one in their circle (including parents) with a positive credit score lol :(
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Lol so it's about money
 
To me, it is really pretty simple.

Some people, usually who have had a more “normal” life experience in terms of relationships, simply want some drama and uncertainty in their lives.

They claim that the favorable resolution of uncertainty and overcoming of drama produces a ‘higher high” in terms of sex and quasi-relationship than a typical commercial sex transaction, but the comparison is always to a half-hour session, often with someone from LeoList.

The simple fact of the matter is that most independent escorts offer longer packages that include a date/companionship in addition to the certainty of sex, and many have an extensive sexual service list offering that prevents any boredom from ever occuring.

In the short run, the independent escort is more expensive for a multi-hour experience. In the long run, they are not, given that there will be no dramatic demands for money later in the experience.

Some people need and enjoy drama, uncertainty, and occasional highly favorable resolution of conflict. Some of us hate all of that and look at ways (usually via repeating with specific providers and purchasing longer sessions) to obtain the benefits of quasi-relationships / companionship / friendships without the drama. To do so, you have to be comfortable and respectful of the fact that you are with a sex worker. That is another difference. Sugar Babies are aware of the fact that they can drain a few more dollars from Target, if Target views them as something superior to a sex worker (although more than a few Sugar Babies also do independent escorting or even agency escorting). They just have to remember what hat to wear when they leave their home to meet Boyfriend, John or Target.

And remember to create some drama and uncertainty if that appears to be desired by Target.

Women are very smart and versatile. They started talking about this shit on the swingsets at recess while casually watching the boys play ball.

And we will never get around the fact that feeling superior to others is an intrinsic need of many. How many two hour sessions have guys here had, while horizontal, with independent and agency escorts where she talks about what she is studying in school, where she works, and/or the fun Caribbean trips she takes with her girlfriends. The guy into Sugar Babies will have that same conversation over an expensive dinner and be completely unconvinced that any “hooker” would have the same experiences or things to say. Tge golf example earlier was excellent. The golfer who takes the game too seriously never has respect for those who don’t.
 
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In the short run, the independent escort is more expensive for a multi-hour experience. In the long run, they are not, given that there will be no dramatic demands for money later in the experience.
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I’ve never had dramatic demands for money. Where does that even come from? There were some requests for money presumably when they needed it urgently to which I simply responded “I’d rather continue with payments when we are seeing each other as we have previously agreed” and i have never been dumped for that.
and even if i paid that money id be way ahead of multi hours with escorts which would make hobbying 300-400% more expensive for me.

Sometimes you feel like eating in a buffet and sometimes in a restaurant and sometimes home made. And some people don’t mind junk food either.
If only one made sense another one would not exist.
 
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Leimonis said:
I’ve never had dramatic demands for money. Where does that even come from? There were some requests for money presumably when they needed it urgently to which I simply responded “I’d rather continue with payments when we are seeing each other as we have previously agreed” and i have never been dumped for that.
and even if i paid that money id be way ahead of multi hours with escorts which would make hobbying 300-400% more expensive for me.

Sometimes you feel like eating in a buffet and sometimes in a restaurant and sometimes home made. And some people don’t mind junk food either.
If only one made sense another one would not exist.
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I’ve had the same experience for the most part. Only one girl had this kind of dramatic request and I ended it shortly thereafter. (I need to have cosmetic dental surgery!!. Really?? what the hell for you look fine??. TBH Her vanity was slightly off putting from day one but I looked past it because she was hot lol. But only to a point)

All the others have stuck to the agreed terms with no drama.
 
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davi 1991 said:
Lol so it's about money
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Even with regular escorts it's not just money, but it certainly is a factor. Usually, if a girl is always talking about money, I don't consider her a sugar baby anymore. yes, if you're gross and have no game, you can probably throw a $1000 at a girl and still get laid. She's probably not going to enjoy herself and is going to always look at seeing you as work.

Think of money as alcohol (or whatever your drug of choice is), it helps get you in, but if you have a bit of game, smell good (and you're the kind of guy she's into) you don't have to rely on it so much.
 
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Cholla said:
Last paragraph is a bad scenario! 😩 “No rules” is a right phrase! It includes some games such as … Two hours with an SB and knock on the door - second guy is coming for his turn. One of real facts…
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Yeah, been in that situation too - a lot of these girls don't have money skills (or just work in jobs that don't cover much), so try to make the most of it, don't throw it around, but make it clear if they help you, you help them :)
 
Need a quick advice. Got a young SB asking for $300 ppm drinks/dinner (non-intimate) for first meet. She's pretty hot tho but should I pass? Or is this still common? I still haven't encounter anyone who will come out first meeting (non cash).
 
waxtrax said:
Need a quick advice. Got a young SB asking for $300 ppm drinks/dinner (non-intimate) for first meet. She's pretty hot tho but should I pass? Or is this still common? I still haven't encounter anyone who will come out first meeting (non cash).
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In these situations I always assume that there would not be a second date. Or it will again be a platonic because she can’t feel pressured etc.
Why would she ever put out when she can collect money for eating and drinking?
 
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Need a quick advice. Got a young SB asking for $300 ppm drinks/dinner (non-intimate) for first meet. She's pretty hot tho but should I pass?
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She's getting dinner/drinks and $300 and you're getting?
Pass.
 
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waxtrax said:
Need a quick advice. Got a young SB asking for $300 ppm drinks/dinner (non-intimate) for first meet. She's pretty hot tho but should I pass? Or is this still common? I still haven't encounter anyone who will come out first meeting (non cash).
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I always tell them that on a meet and greet 1st date, there are no expectations on either side. No expectation of sex and no expectation of money. The term mutually beneficial gets used a lot. In this case, she gets the benefit of 3 bills and you get the benefit of paying for dinner? There is nothing mutually beneficial there. It is just unfair.

I also tell them that I have many friends and family members that I can go to dinner with. I'm not that lonely to have to pay someone $300 to have dinner with me. If, after dinner, we decide to consummate the arrangement, I'll be glad to pay the agreed upon amount.

DO NOT EVER PAY HER MONEY FOR A MEET AND GREET.
 
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True true, I just gotta stick to my gut feeling. I know deep down paying money on first meet is not something I'm comfortable with. But I was just curious if this is still a trend the hotter/younger SB are, will always ask money up front.
 
waxtrax said:
True true, I just gotta stick to my gut feeling. I know deep down paying money on first meet is not something I'm comfortable with. But I was just curious if this is still a trend the hotter/younger SB are, will always ask money up front.
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It is not trend, thankfully. (Paying not asking)

It only becomes one if we succumb to their inappropriate demands.
 
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