In these situations I always assume that there would not be a second date. Or it will again be a platonic because she can’t feel pressured etc.
Why would she ever put out when she can collect money for eating and drinking?
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Why would she ever put out when she can collect money for eating and drinking?
She's getting dinner/drinks and $300 and you're getting?
Pass.
I always tell them that on a meet and greet 1st date, there are no expectations on either side. No expectation of sex and no expectation of money. The term mutually beneficial gets used a lot. In this case, she gets the benefit of 3 bills and you get the benefit of paying for dinner? There is nothing mutually beneficial there. It is just unfair.
I also tell them that I have many friends and family members that I can go to dinner with. I'm not that lonely to have to pay someone $300 to have dinner with me. If, after dinner, we decide to consummate the arrangement, I'll be glad to pay the agreed upon amount.
DO NOT EVER PAY HER MONEY FOR A MEET AND GREET.
It is not trend, thankfully. (Paying not asking)
It only becomes one if we succumb to their inappropriate demands.
What’s the point of paying someone $300 to have dinner without any intimacy ?
I can hire a companion for my elderly mother to come to her place and help prepare a meal and sit and be social with her for an hour at $25/hour
I can hire a companion for my elderly mother to come to her place and help prepare a meal and sit and be social with her for an hour at $25/hour
This is the latest shit along those lines that I’ve been getting :
I’m open to moving things in a non-platonic direction, though I prefer us getting to know each other first of course. Iwill say I really don’t meet for free since it’s usually quite a hassle to “look presentable”, does that work for you?
And when I pointed out that I’m not looking to be rinsed she wouldn’t give up:
I mean, understandable— I’m willing to work with you on thatfront, but it also just feels a little pressuring to move quickly to incentivise intimacy, which is something I feel should be a little more built up or things can feel very one-sided, emotionally.
I’m open to moving things in a non-platonic direction, though I prefer us getting to know each other first of course. Iwill say I really don’t meet for free since it’s usually quite a hassle to “look presentable”, does that work for you?
And when I pointed out that I’m not looking to be rinsed she wouldn’t give up:
I mean, understandable— I’m willing to work with you on thatfront, but it also just feels a little pressuring to move quickly to incentivise intimacy, which is something I feel should be a little more built up or things can feel very one-sided, emotionally.
I am reading posts and just wondering.., This is kind of “romantic arrangement” which is fine. We agree on rate, etc. Then one side, SB, began asking for something extra - maybe gifts, dinners, even trips, etc. Why the other side - paying party - can’t introduce “tariffs” (very popular word now) in a form of anal, CIM, maybe even 3some as a “retaliation measure”? 
Those exchanges and tariffs can take any shape and form. Many years ago I knew a guy who would routinely beat up his gf and he would give her new shoes for a small beating and once he gave her a fur coat for a fairly brutal beating.I am reading posts and just wondering.., This is kind of “romantic arrangement” which is fine. We agree on rate, etc. Then one side, SB, began asking for something extra - maybe gifts, dinners, even trips, etc. Why the other side - paying party - can’t introduce “tariffs” (very popular word now) in a form of anal, CIM, maybe even 3some as a “retaliation measure”?
but I wouldn’t recommend forcing a threesome on someone who’s not into it. Or an anal lol. I’d simply dump an Sb for making extra demands.
Nice response, thank you!
First paragraph. Definitely no to beating, but yes for good ass spanking/whipping.
Second paragraph. Anal first, dumping afterwards.
You know you found a keeper when you pay the SB for sex only and when we go out to a cafe she pays for the coffee and cheesecake for both of us.
But is this the crazy trend SBs are expecting these days?! The hot ones prob can get away with it cuz like somebody said, there are some ppl who will pay or can afford it. Or they will use that line after the first meet(ppm) then we can progress to something more intimate which again does't feel right, cuz chances are you won't see them again. idk maybe the ones over 30 are more mature about it, but this really makes want to just stick with SPs.
I blame fucking incel community for amplifying the issue of low body count.
A few years ago being a ho was empowering. And soliciting “virtual” relationships was prohibited on seeking (before COVID).
Those were the golden days of sugaring but it seems that it is over now.
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What they expect for a M&G is irrelevant because we control the purse strings. We decide.
All she is doing is just letting you know early on that she is not what you are looking for in an arrangement. Her intent is to use you as an ATM.
There are lots of girls out there who try this, and it must work for them, but don’t be the guy who perpetuates the idea.
Be upfront right away and tell her you’re not interested in paying $$ for a M&G, but you’d be happy to buy her a drink and have a quick chat. You never know, she may come back with a better suggestion. If she insists it’s a hard pass.
No matter how hot she is, remember that for around the same kind of money you can be banging a hot agency SP.
You're saying that as if it's a bad thing. And why is it just "lonely" guys. How about guys who just don't want a transactional, impersonal 30 minute "wham, bam, thank you ma'am" experience.
Hate to say it, but you sound like a "pro".
