Sugar Dating Experience
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When I first started in the Sugar world SB was the one I used. It looks like more girls are verified now, and experience from guys here seems to suggest that sticking to verified profiles is the way to go. So maybe things have changed.
When I used it there were fewer verified profiles and in my opinion it was a scam.
Here’s the scenario that played out, I’d be interested to know if this sounds familiar to any one else:
I’d spend credits to reach out to girls and the reply rate was low to nothing. OK, I’d think, maybe it's me, there must be thousands of guys on here. Then I’d get messages from new “girls” I’d never seen before, spend the credits to reply and never hear back. There were times when I was at my desk and saw a message so I’d reply literally within seconds. Still crickets. I’d spend more credits to see if my reply had been read and most of the time it hadn’t. Coincidentally the only time I seemed to have any successful communication was when I was getting really low on credits. Surprise, surprise I might hear from a real woman and be able to respond. Until I slapped down my CC for more credits like a dopamine fuelled addict of course, then the real ladies seemed to dry up.
The only success I ever had on SB was when I was about to give up. My suspicion is that their algorithm is designed exactly this way to keep sucking cash from guys.I found I had way more luck on a regular subscription site like SA where I could send messages to as many girls as I wanted and widen my net, with a much higher reply rate. I was on SA for less than a week and had 2 M&G’s
Just IMO of course. YMMV.
Ah yes the fake accounts lol. There is a Netflix docu on AM along with the hack that happened. They openly make fake accounts. SB had the same issue I noticed when I first started about 5 or so years ago, but I tend to have self control lol. I typically just paid for the lowest amount of credits and msged a few usually dropping $200 a year on it solely for msging ladies within the area I was interested in. People between Barrie to North Bay. The first two years or so I joined I recall when my credit was down to the last 10 or done I'd randomly get like a few more msges from ladies usually further away, but not give in. Clearly fake accounts. And the few who did msg me first I'd look at their profile first and typically block or not reply back to. I think most on there are legit even if they don't have a verified vid and some I actually know in person. I think it was last year I went in with a few hundred more than the normal $200 and the overall experience still was meh. They got addons now like 10 credit to view secret questions and I usually never wasted a credit for their secret pics since most openly have quite a few public pics. The selection for the area I was happy to travel to is limited. And the few really not good looking women who would msg me I'd just view their profile and just ignore or block.
I just found some ladies on there weren't as firm with what they wanted or they wanted me to make the first response with the amount. Quite a few said it's there first time doing this which I kinda found questionable at times. So at times when it came down to it I'd put the offer down lowballing and seeing where it went. A few would negotiate and many just wanted way too much for the month or PPM. Basically paying for their entire rent it seemed to see them perhaps only 2 or 3 times in a month. And not everyone on there wanted just 1on1 exclusive so I'd be open to still doing others also. I just found for the amount the quality just wasn't there. Plus the ones who didn't actually wanted to meet in person weren't my cup of tea since I was on there to meet in person and get intimate. I got tired of the one line sentences going back and forth cause it was wasting time too. Eventually I'd just msg them saying what I was interested in and see where it went. And compared to just a SP if I'm going to spend additional time with a SB I look for certain things in a personality which most lacked. I don't like wasting time and money on dinners dates and other things if someone comes off highly immature or worst case someone cringy who I don't even want to be seen with in person especially with how they behave in public or their attitude issues. On there looking for a good connection not a headache lol.
Social media and stuff has made some people think they are worth a lot more than what they really are. But if you got the money to spend then to each their own. I'm sure some of the older dudes on there in their 50s don't care to spend the few thousands and even travel with them and pay for it all. I was fine with doing the addons and long term, eventually doing some travelling with someone that connected well, but to see someone 2 or 3 times and pay their rent/mortgage wasn't worth it. Some ladies are making a decent amount on those sites and have mentioned places they got to see.
And yes, some did reply back with one word or a sentence then I'd reply back and it was just ghosted. Most likely a fake account. I might check it out again in a year or so if I get into the mood. I usually rolled my eyes after the 3rd year when I'd reactivate the account and the same ladies were still on there looking. Guess not a lot found a deep pocket daddy with what they wanted in return lol.
I think some mix reality with fantasy on those sites. You get a better selection down in places like Las Vegas or Miami and millionaires down there typically drop thousands and fly the person to their mansion for a few days then just drop them back off. These local ladies who are average or above average wanting the amount they want should put in the effort and travel where the money is. Generally people don't make a lot just by staying at one place. And the ones with tons of filter pics are a big meh IMO. I like the ones who'll rock a bit of make up and look great compared to someone who posts filter and non filter pic and they are like under 5/10 in terms of looks. Quite a few legit accounts on that site need a good reality check.
I just found some ladies on there weren't as firm with what they wanted or they wanted me to make the first response with the amount. Quite a few said it's there first time doing this which I kinda found questionable at times. So at times when it came down to it I'd put the offer down lowballing and seeing where it went. A few would negotiate and many just wanted way too much for the month or PPM. Basically paying for their entire rent it seemed to see them perhaps only 2 or 3 times in a month. And not everyone on there wanted just 1on1 exclusive so I'd be open to still doing others also. I just found for the amount the quality just wasn't there. Plus the ones who didn't actually wanted to meet in person weren't my cup of tea since I was on there to meet in person and get intimate. I got tired of the one line sentences going back and forth cause it was wasting time too. Eventually I'd just msg them saying what I was interested in and see where it went. And compared to just a SP if I'm going to spend additional time with a SB I look for certain things in a personality which most lacked. I don't like wasting time and money on dinners dates and other things if someone comes off highly immature or worst case someone cringy who I don't even want to be seen with in person especially with how they behave in public or their attitude issues. On there looking for a good connection not a headache lol.
Social media and stuff has made some people think they are worth a lot more than what they really are. But if you got the money to spend then to each their own. I'm sure some of the older dudes on there in their 50s don't care to spend the few thousands and even travel with them and pay for it all. I was fine with doing the addons and long term, eventually doing some travelling with someone that connected well, but to see someone 2 or 3 times and pay their rent/mortgage wasn't worth it. Some ladies are making a decent amount on those sites and have mentioned places they got to see.
And yes, some did reply back with one word or a sentence then I'd reply back and it was just ghosted. Most likely a fake account. I might check it out again in a year or so if I get into the mood. I usually rolled my eyes after the 3rd year when I'd reactivate the account and the same ladies were still on there looking. Guess not a lot found a deep pocket daddy with what they wanted in return lol.
I think some mix reality with fantasy on those sites. You get a better selection down in places like Las Vegas or Miami and millionaires down there typically drop thousands and fly the person to their mansion for a few days then just drop them back off. These local ladies who are average or above average wanting the amount they want should put in the effort and travel where the money is. Generally people don't make a lot just by staying at one place. And the ones with tons of filter pics are a big meh IMO. I like the ones who'll rock a bit of make up and look great compared to someone who posts filter and non filter pic and they are like under 5/10 in terms of looks. Quite a few legit accounts on that site need a good reality check.
So you think the ones that sent you messages in the beginning are like fake accounts(bots) set up from the algorithm then towards the end, it would somehow allowed real girls to send you messages?Here’s the scenario that played out, I’d be interested to know if this sounds familiar to any one else:
I’d spend credits to reach out to girls and the reply rate was low to nothing. OK, I’d think, maybe it's me, there must be thousands of guys on here. Then I’d get messages from new “girls” I’d never seen before, spend the credits to reply and never hear back. There were times when I was at my desk and saw a message so I’d reply literally within seconds. Still crickets. I’d spend more credits to see if my reply had been read and most of the time it hadn’t. Coincidentally the only time I seemed to have any successful communication was when I was getting really low on credits. Surprise, surprise I might hear from a real woman and be able to respond. Until I slapped down my CC for more credits like a dopamine fuelled addict of course, then the real ladies seemed to dry up.
I found I had way more luck on a regular subscription site like SA where I could send messages to as many girls as I wanted and widen my net, with a much higher reply rate. I was on SA for less than a week and had 2 M&G’s
Just IMO of course. YMMV.
That’s my guess. What I eventually got was replies from messages I’d sent, but not necessarily recently. The only girl I ever ended up seeing from SB was as I was about to give up. She told me that she had just seen my message when she replied, but I’d sent it over a week earlier and it wasn’t read at the time.
The popular real girls on all the sites get a lot of messages in their inboxes. So my hunch is that when you get low on credits the site moves your messages to the top of their inbox, so they are more likely to see it, and thus reply if they’re interested. That way you actually get the feeling of success, and the real girl is actually an unwitting pawn in the scheme.
If I was an unscrupulous website operator that’s sure what I’d do.
Once you reload credits you go back to the bottom, and get the bot accounts sending you messages etc… and the cycle repeats. It might be different if you spend the big $$ for huge amounts of credits. But that too is just a hunch.
I don't think I experienced what you did. A few actually gave me their numbers and we'd text cause some wanted to text a bit first than just meet up but after meeting up the overall experience was meh. And once again yeah the price tag along with travelling (long term wise) just didn't cut it for me. I think the same ones on there from years ago are realizing this unless they are msging guys outside of their province and country and making some money. Some do gift just for chatting and what not. Quite a few never replied back or I'd get one reply back and then ghosted. I did like the fact you could msg someone which cost a credit and if they finally replied back like a week or so later you can still continuing chatting. The general feeling I got with the ladies between Barrie to North Bay was not wanting to meet up in person cause they'd string stuff along in chat or the PPM compared to a SP didn't cut it. Average SP is typically around 200-300 for H and some of these wanted well more than that. I never bothered discussing with them something like this hobby and what SPs ask for since many aren't even on that site in the industry of being a SP and are clueless. Some wanted to meet for like a dinner or coffee first and see how that went first otherwise were perfectly fine just getting down to business similar to what a SP is for.
Yeah, totally agree. I have Indian Punjab SB who is asking $500 for six hours. ( single day ) I need book a hotel plus buy lunch. 23 yrs good looking but sex part no close to SP, very inexperienced. Took her couple of times and banged her now I am thinking kind of not worth the money.
$500 for 6 hours isn't that bad if she's well experienced sexually and you enjoy the vibe/connection. And if you have the money to spend of course. But if you're renting the room and getting meals then yeah it all adds up. I personally wouldn't pay someone $500 for 6 hours just to like go out to watch a movie, have a drink, go for a walk and barely get much sex or even good sex. I can sign back up on a dating app and get that for a lot cheaper. There was 2 or 3 I seen more than once from that site and they wanted $100 only and one said give whatever you'd want so I'd just grab a simple meal when we hung out at her place. Similar to you it was spending around 4-6 hours or even crashing the night at their place for very little. And it was the typical watch something on stream and then do it. Take a break then maybe go at it again. A lot of the time I didn't even care to stick around much longer cause I didn't find the person that appealing but I got what I wanted at the end of the day along with them. The other one I was seeing I openly let her know nicely afterwards through text that this just wasn't working out cause her intimacy was extremely boring and dry. I can easily put in the effort for the experience, but if the other person is pretty dull the session leaves me unhappy. Overall I joined cause if I found someone decent long term wise I was more than happy to travel somewhere with the person to a resort or something, but at the same time I wouldn't want to pay the extra hours if they wanted just for their time. I find if I'm paying for the actual trip and meals along with some gifts overseas that should be good enough. But everyone is different and some have no issue paying the person for all that along with by the hour.
And that's what I found on that site most aren't actually SPs of course and some don't put out as well. Most SPs based on what their ad offers tend to do a decent job. If I was in your shoes I'd drop her and stick with a SP. Find a decent one and even try 2 hour sessions with breaks, probably a better experience overall. I don't need some arm candy next to me walking down the street no matter how good looking she is and barely getting much else in return. YMMV.
And that's what I found on that site most aren't actually SPs of course and some don't put out as well. Most SPs based on what their ad offers tend to do a decent job. If I was in your shoes I'd drop her and stick with a SP. Find a decent one and even try 2 hour sessions with breaks, probably a better experience overall. I don't need some arm candy next to me walking down the street no matter how good looking she is and barely getting much else in return. YMMV.
Hey Everyone, Ive been on SA for some time now and seen a few girls, Ive recently had a trip back home and noticed that the SDs there have created a TG group to weed out the scammers and I found it quite useful and saved me time, effort and $$.. I have had some wonderful experiences on the site but also had to deal with my fair share of bad apples.. wondering if theres something similar for us here in Toronto, else maybe we could all create a similar group to share our findings.. Im sure SDs might not want to share info about their fav SBs, but we could all pool our collective info to avoid the bad ones and scammers
Fake bot accounts exists on all dating sites, they are they to get users to spend money and use the credits and reload.
I left SA and never bothered with other ones.
If you do match up with an SB, make sure you both agree on the arrangement before you meet or in the first meeting to level expectations.
When I was on... it went on a few dates with the SBs (I paid for dinner) to see if there was a connection before we both agreed on moving forward.
I had one date where we went for dinner and she wanted to go back to my place, we chatted some more and once she saw my condo view and wanted to move to the bedroom. We had fun a few times before she moved.
I left SA and never bothered with other ones.
If you do match up with an SB, make sure you both agree on the arrangement before you meet or in the first meeting to level expectations.
When I was on... it went on a few dates with the SBs (I paid for dinner) to see if there was a connection before we both agreed on moving forward.
I had one date where we went for dinner and she wanted to go back to my place, we chatted some more and once she saw my condo view and wanted to move to the bedroom. We had fun a few times before she moved.
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Been a while since I've entertained any of this SA stuff. I did two arrangements concurrently from 2023 to early 2024. Two girls: 21 and 25. It was great. Honestly what really got me excited was not using condoms. I can fuck for over an hour and that just doesn't work with condoms. I'd go to HFC every 2-3 months. The girls did once at first and then that was it. I did a bunch of other one-timers during that period of time as well. When I did the math, for a period of about a year I had sex every 2.93 days. lol. Total spend was almost $100K.
For the past few months I've hobby'd sparingly. Dated a couple girls for a few weeks, if that. The vanilla dating world is pretty bleak. I think I'd get along well with an older person, say in their mid 40s. But... then I think about all the fun I can have with 4-5 girls in rotation...
And then last week I was at some guy's place and learned that he pays a monthly rate of say, $3000 and gets a rotation of 4-6 girls. They just drop by his house... hang out... he fucks them... and either they leave or he takes them wherever he's going. Some guy organizes it all. Got me thinking...
You'd have to know an agency owner with women who have a bit of extra time. Anyone else on monthlies, like that? Haha
For the past few months I've hobby'd sparingly. Dated a couple girls for a few weeks, if that. The vanilla dating world is pretty bleak. I think I'd get along well with an older person, say in their mid 40s. But... then I think about all the fun I can have with 4-5 girls in rotation...
And then last week I was at some guy's place and learned that he pays a monthly rate of say, $3000 and gets a rotation of 4-6 girls. They just drop by his house... hang out... he fucks them... and either they leave or he takes them wherever he's going. Some guy organizes it all. Got me thinking...
You'd have to know an agency owner with women who have a bit of extra time. Anyone else on monthlies, like that? Haha
as one of my SBs likes to say "the math is not mathing here". Unless girls work for minimum wage
Well there's an idea. Maybe there are some older Asian girls, say mid 40s that would work for an hourly wage. Pool 15 girls at $3K/mo that's $45K and then get 50 clients to pay $5K/mo for that service. Girls just spend their time going to the same 50 apartments.
If this proposition could bring joy to any man for any price, god bless them. If I was told that I had to be consistently doing several mid 40 women that would work for minimal wage, my first thought would be "shoot me in the head right now".
